patrick.net

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https://san.com/cc/impressive-island-ex-israeli-prime-ministers-hacked-emails-reveal-relationship-with-jeffrey-epstein/

Ehud Barak is the main reason you don't see the NY Times joining the chorus of AntiFa and Blue Hairs demanding the release of the Epstein "client" list and "files"

Like I said, Epstein did the bidding of Ehud Barak (former Mossad head and Prime Minister of Israel) and Mossad shell companies

The money Epstein made for them ranged from paying off informants in order to track down and kill General Soleimani, and to report on Iran nuclear weapon development

If this info makes it into the mainstream media than it will be like exposing Mossad and CIA tradecraft as much as it will be embarrassing info

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Patrick says

For some reason, it's labelled "The Valencia Specialists" now.

Just because there's nothing above ground any more doesn't mean there isn't a lot of stuff still underground i.e. tunnel networks and underground chambers. A lot of these locations have much more underground than they ever had above ground.

https://x.com/realaf_patriot/status/1960946207955554556?s=46

Patrick says

For some reason, it's labelled "The Valencia Specialists" now. Seems to be some kind of real estate company. And you can't even do the street view. See how the blue line turns at Travers Way? Huh.

I know you don't do google, but they're building a house. So likely a real estate developer. Epstein's estate likely sold it. New owner demolished the old place as it wouldn't sell as high. Build a newer nicer place. Probably got the place at a super deal as well as most wouldn't want to be associated with it. That's prime real estate though and the new house going in is a monster.

Our buddy Benjamin Fulford's take on the real Jizzlaine rather than the Jizzlaine Actress Lite they are trying to flog.

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=258757

Going to start listening to the Ghislaine audio to see if there's anything interesting there:

https://www.justice.gov/maxwell-interview

Audio is not great, so reading transcripts instead:

https://www.justice.gov/storage/audio-files/Interview%20Transcript/Interview%20Transcript%20-%20Maxwell%202025.07.24%20(Redacted).pdf

GHISLAINE MAXWELL: That's true and I did
5 speak to him and I did ask him if -- oh, and did tell
6 him that I would be very keen to talk to anyone,
7 because no one from the government, at any time, ever
8 in the -- since the inception of the case, so dating
9 back to the early 2000s, has ever spoken to me, and
10 indeed, I believe ever reached out to me at any time
11 to even speak to me. And that includes up to when I
12 was indicted and prosecuted.

This is very strange. She was tried, convicted, and sent to prison, without ever speaking to anyone from the government?

18 TODD BLANCHE: Do you know what kind of
19 work Mr. Epstein was doing for Mr. Black over the
20 years?
21 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Same as what he did
22 for Wexner.

Ah, another bit of leverage Epstein had over very rich people was his tax evasion advice. He would advise them and then get a percentage of what they "saved":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Black

The review conducted by Dechert LLP was released on January 25, 2021. It showed that Black had paid Epstein around $158 million from 2012 through 2017 for financial services.[42] Using Epstein's tax avoidance strategies, Black saved at least $1.3 billion in taxes.

But then Epstein knew that these guys were evading taxes, because he helped them do it.

Ceffer says

Our buddy Benjamin Fulford's take on the real Jizzlaine rather than the Jizzlaine Actress Lite they are trying to flog.

So they are creating children from cloning ? why ? as test specimens for a lab ?

part of life extension efforts funding by Gates and the elites and they use the blood from children as part of that ?

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Having read a lot of the first transcript, my conclusion is that Ghislaine is a bullshitter.

First she talks about how she left England partly to escape continuously working on her father's businesses. Then she talks about how after it came out that her father Robert Maxwell defrauded one of his company's pension funds of 100M pounds, she denied ever having anything to do with his businesses.

Also, she admits hiring "masseuses" for Epstein, and knew that he was sexually abusing them, but says the girls all looked 18 to her. She never once asked for ID.

Patrick says

Having read a lot of the first transcript, my conclusion is that Ghislaine is a bullshitter.

First she talks about how she left England partly to escape continuously working on her father's businesses. Then she talks about how after it came out that her father Robert Maxwell defrauded one of his company's pension funds of 100M pounds, she denied ever having anything to do with his businesses.

Also, she admits hiring "masseuses" for Epstein, and knew that he was sexually abusing them, but says the girls all looked 18 to her. She never once asked for ID.

Agreed, she’s clearly lying

Here's another lie by Ghislaine:

2 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I've never recruited a
3 masseuse from Mar-a-Lago for that, as far as I
4 remember. I can't ever recollect doing that.

Virginia Giuffre said Maxwell recruited her out of Mar-a-Lago, and Trump himself says he was angry upon learning that Maxwell did that.

Funny that she has a posh English accent on the one hand, but on the other hand throws in Yiddish words now and then:

7 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: So I -- I just -- I
8 think it's really helpful to understand a few things
9 that has been missed in this whole mishigas.

mishigas = craziness

"So that's how they came, because also it was a schlep."

A schlep is a long trip.

7 And he started doing testosterone and that
8 altered his character. And I believe that started in
9 the late '90s. And I believe that the FBI has his
10 medical records and you may see that on his medical
11 records. Yes.

Why would she tell the truth about anything? She's already been convicted. You're looking for a needle in a haystack. I wouldn't waste much more time on it. She would have made a plea deal if she had dirt and not gone to prison. I suppose free room and board is nice, but not how I'd want to live. I'd make a deal and spill the beans.

She also might just be an idiot. Just because the family had wealth, doesn't mean she's intelligent.

Most or maybe even all of the redactions in this document are stupid, because the names are already publicly known and even were published in the 1996 book about Epstein, "Filthy Rich", which I got from my local library.

15 GHISLAINE MAXWELL:
16 The origin of this story, I believe,
17 begins -- or it has a beginning in 2009, and then it
18 has a prequel but we have to start in 2009.
19 In 2009, there is -- Epstein is, I think,
20 out of jail, and there are civil suits taking place.
21 Many of these are coming out of a disgraced law firm,
22 Rothstein Adler -- Rothstein, Rosenfeldt & Adler.
23 At that law firm is a lawyer who started
24 there in April, May, 2009, called Brad Edwards. In
25 2009, allegedly the FBI gets a call in October of
1 2009 from Brad Edwards, and he allegedly tells them
2 that he has come across a piece of evidence that
3 belongs to Epstein, that contains a list of all of
4 his clients and victims, underage girls, massage
5 therapists, and his -- and the men who are having sex
6 with them. And he becomes -- he, Brad Edwards
7 becomes a cooperating witness -- cooperating --
8 LEAH SAFFIAN: Confidential.
9 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: -- confidential
10 informant, sorry. Confidential informant for them.
11 And in a sting operation obtains the list
12 from a former butler of Epstein's called Alfredo
13 Rodriguez. And it becomes evidence in the civil
14 suit.

First Ghislaine says there is no list, then talks about the address book that Epstein's employee Alfredo took from the house, then claims it was made up.

But Alfredo was actually arrested for trying to sell the address book for $50K and served prison time for that. Not likely for a fake address book.

Then Alfredo died of a kind of cancer which can be induced. Just sayin.

https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/epsteins-butler-alfredo-rodriguez-who-stole-tell-all-black-book-dies-age-60/

Then a reporter got a copy of Epstein's address book and literally called everyone in it:

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/10/i-called-everyone-in-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book/

Fake Jizzlaine Actress preaching Epstein Lite is a pimple on the pinnacle of the Epstein iceberg. PTB are intimidated enough the too many spinning plates of government and civilization will come crashing down, so recourse will be necessary some other way.

When the cancer becomes enough percentage of the body politic, separating the cancer from body invariably becomes fatal to both, a guaranteed mutual suicide pact.

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https://archive.org/details/jeffrey-epstein-39s-little-black-book-unredacted

https://x.com/evilsocket/status/1942514303896076442?t=3ieQxspp8pIXZrkIb33yCA&s=19

can view Epstein's "client" list or "black book" at above sites, but not every one listed was a "client"

Epstein liked to attract non-celebrity types with deep pocket$ like high-roller Wall Street types by having celebrities around him like Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Kevin Spacey, Chris Tucker, Courtney Love, Woody Allen, etc.

I believe the "clients" were the non-celebrity types who got 16 year old females to give them massages on Epstein properties

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22 TODD BLANCHE: After Mr. Epstein was
23 charged, did you have conversations with him about
24 the investigation?
25 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: He never talked to me
1 about it.
2 TODD BLANCHE: Did you --
3 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I mean, I can't --
4 let's put it this way. If he did, I have no
5 recollection of it. I mean, I'm sure he must have
6 said, this is all -- whatever he said or it's nothing
7 or whatever.
8 I mean, I just don't have any -- I just
9 don't have any memory. I mean, I just -- I was with
10 Ted. My -- I was like gone. I mean, plus I just
11 didn't want to know either, I suppose.

Lol, wut?

18 Were there any international businessmen
19 or politicians that had a very close relationship or
20 a close relationship with Mr. Epstein, that we
21 haven't already talked about?
22 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Off the top of my,
23 head, I can think of Ehud Barak.
24 TODD BLANCHE: You said that Mr. Epstein
25 at some point in the mid to late '90s he started
1 taking testosterone. Did you ever know him to take
2 any other drugs?
3 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: No. I mean, he took
4 pills for his heart, I think, but I don't -- no
5 other -- no substances.

Wait, the're just going to skip over Ehud Barak?

21 TODD BLANCHE: I think you said this in an
22 interview, but if I'm wrong forgive me. Do you have
23 a view of Mr. Epstein of whether he committed suicide
24 or whether something else happened?
25 DAVID MARKUS: Can we take a break?
1 TODD BLANCHE: Want to take a break?
2 DAVID MARKUS: Yeah, sure.
3 TODD BLANCHE: Yeah. We can take a break.
4 Yeah. Sure. Actually, it's a good time to take a
5 break anyway, because it's to be the last one of the
6 day.
7 SPENCER HORN: All right. So we're going
8 to take a break at -- it's 2:53, Thursday, July 24th.
9 (Off the record at 2:53 p.m.)
10 SPENCER HORN: We are continuing with the
11 recorded proffer of Ms. Maxwell. The time is now
12 3:10 p.m., Thursday, July 24th.
13 TODD BLANCHE: My colleagues alerted me to
14 a couple questions I think I may have forgotten to
15 ask you. One is -- sorry, I'm just going through my
16 notes.
17 Well, we talked few minutes ago about this
18 birthday book that there's press about. ...

Wait, one FBI guy asks if Ghislaine thinks Epstein was murdered, another interrupts saying they're going to take a break, and then they come back and forgot entirely about the murder question?

Weird.

10 DIEGO PESTANA: You mentioned Ehud Barak.
11 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Yes.
12 DIEGO PESTANA: What was his involvement?
13 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: This would've been in
14 the later 2000's. So I do not know how they met, but
15 I do know that they -- I don't know if friendly would
16 be the right word. I don't know that, but I know
17 that they saw each other and only because my
18 father -- you know, anything that touches Israel or
19 the state of Israel, I'm always interested in,
20 because my father loved Israel and so I pay attention
21 to it and we have ties to, you know, to Israel.
22 TODD BLANCHE: When you said it was later
23 though --
24 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Ties meaning friends
25 and family relations.
1 TODD BLANCHE: Was the Prime Minis- was
2 Mr. Barak, Prime Minister Barak, do you know what the
3 nature of his relationship was with Mr. Epstein?
4 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I don't.
5 TODD BLANCHE: Do you know -- were you
6 ever with them together?
7 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I think I met -- I
8 have a memory of meeting Ehud, but I don't know if he
9 was with Epstein or -- I don't remember.

And then they stop talking about Israel again.

But they did get back to the Epstein murder:

4 there's SDNY investigation about that. Do you -- so
5 you think he was -- he did not die by suicide, given
6 all the things we just talked about.
7 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I do not believe he
8 died by suicide, no.
9 TODD BLANCHE: And do you believe that --
10 do you have any speculation or view of who killed
11 him?
12 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I -- no, I don't.

14 TODD BLANCHE: Okay. So I want to talk
15 about -- we talked a little bit yesterday about the
16 financial part of your relationship with Mr. Epstein,
17 kind of being on payroll, for lack of a better word,
18 for many, many years, starting around $25,000 and
19 ending up at around $250,000 per year.
20 There's -- as you know, from your trial,
21 there's banking information that shows a ton of money
22 being sent to you from Mr. Epstein over the years.
23 And I think totaling something like
24 $30 million, something like this. What's -- what's
25 the -- why was that money sent to you? Like, what
1 was that for?
2 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, first of all, I
3 don't -- I dispute the characterization that the
4 money was sent to me.
5 TODD BLANCHE: Okay. So tell me what -- I
6 am stuck with the witnesses at trial and what was
7 said at trial on that issue. So what -- what -- what
8 is the -- what do you dispute about that?
9 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, I believe -- I
10 don't have full recollection. I'm not even sure I
11 ever saw what they accused me of, but my belief is
12 that that money also contained money that was for a
13 helicopter, for instance, that I never owned and I --
14 was never mine. And --
15 DAVID MARKUS: In other words, money was
16 sent to you that you then used to purchase things
17 or...
18 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: Well, I'm not even
19 sure that I purchased it. So the accounts -- those
20 accounts would be controlled by his accountants.

Oh yeah, that $30M, forgot about that, bought a helicopter, or maybe I didn't...

23 Henry and he had -- he was --I don't know if then he
24 was at the -- in the Council of Foreign Relations,

Woah:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190405211237/https:/www.edge.org/memberbio/jeffrey_epstein

"Mr. Epstein is a former member of the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations..."

11 TODD BLANCHE: Okay. So you -- when
12 the -- just still stay -- staying on your
13 relationship with -- sorry, the -- your association
14 with the Clintons.
15 You were part of the ramp up or the
16 startup of the Clinton Global Initiative --
17 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I was.
18 TODD BLANCHE: -- and helping them in
19 supporting that effort.
20 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I -- I would say very
21 central to that, yes.

17 TODD BLANCHE: I understand.
18 George Soros?
19 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I don't think he knew
20 him. I did, but I don't think he did. I don't
21 think.
22 TODD BLANCHE: How did you know Mr. Soros?
23 GHISLAINE MAXWELL: I was friends with his
24 kids.

Booby trapped like the Epstein files? If pedo or classified material becomes distributed, and you store illegal material, you could become a victim of the blackmail-plex, just like some Epstein clients. Trump said he would not re-publish child porn.

https://t.me/candlesinthenight/86171

OK, I read through all of Ghislaine's testimony. It was very interesting to see the differences from the book I also just read about Epstein ("Filthy Rich").

My conclusions:

1. Ghislaine is a liar, and will say whatever it takes to get out of prison. Lots of "can't remember" when pressed.
2. Ghislaine recruited slews of high-school age girls for Epstein and absolutely knew for sure they were well under age.
3. Epstein mostly used money (usually $200 or $300) to get the girls to do sexual things, fingering, blowjobs, sex, but was occasionally forceful.
4. Lots of the girls came back to get more money, making them seem complicit even if under age. Ghislaine kept talking about how she "never saw tears".
5. Epstein probably was recording video of some guys having sex with the underage girls: Dubin, Black, Clinton, Gates, Dershowitz, etc.
6. Epstein's main source of income seems to have ben assisting the very wealthy with illegal tax evasion, taking a percentage of the "savings".

So I think the bigger blackmail operation was the tax evasion thing, and that he was feeding that info to Ehud Barak. So Israel has more useful info on the tax evasion of very rich Americans than sex tapes, but probably has those tapes as well.

I have to wonder if Trump used Epstein for tax evasion, and whether that's why he tried to shut down discussion of Epstein.

Patrick says

info to Ehud Barak

there were some of Epstein "clients" who were no-name or non-celebrity types but were rich that have stated one of the reasons they were attracted to Epstein was because he had celebrities like Woody Allen, Kevin Spacey, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump around

the 16 year old females that offered massages and whatever else was the "icing on the cake" for these "clients"

I am thankful you too Patrick are not ignoring former Mossad operative Ehud Barak in regards to this Epstein matter

interesting that Epstein kicked out Harvey Weinstein as Weinstein even pushed boundaries with Epstein

https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/films/news/jeffrey-epstein-harvey-weinstein-sex-abuse-favourite-girl-lawyer-a9437111.html

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Patrick says

So I think the bigger blackmail operation was the tax evasion thing, and that he was feeding that info to Ehud Barak. So Israel has more useful info on the tax evasion of very rich Americans than sex tapes, but probably has those tapes as well.

Trump was involved with Epstein in regards to major tax evasion and the Israeli government or specifically Mossad has smoking gun evidence of this ?

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Original Jizzlaine was an intelligence asset trained from childhood (likely with a history of ritual abuse, almost mandatory for the dynastic Intel types). This is similar to Obama and Anne Dunham. Dunhams were an inter-generational Intel family, deep into the spooks.

Nobody seems to remember that the girls at Epstein Island had their passports and ID taken from them, which made them hostages under duress at the very least when they were there. I also remember seeing a vid of very young girls who were supposed to be there in those little fuzzy dresses around a kiosk of some kind.

Fake prison Jizzlaine Lite is likely just superficially briefed teleprompter style. Of course, they have no high resolution pictures of her since she was arrested, just one courtroom shot that obviously was not her, otherwise only the distant blurry shots in the era where high res photography at a distance could identify a postage stamp if they wanted it to. Courtroom had no photographs, just the usual artist renderings that say nothing about whether it was even her there.

The hamburger stand staged shots before she was apprehended was a weird touch. It looks like they may have been road testing a body double. One of them looks older than the other comparative Jizzlaine. She was also reading a book called "The Book of Honor: The Secret Lives and Deaths of CIA Operatives by journalist Ted Gup" It was an arrogant 'catch me if you can' moment, and she doesn't look the least bit worried or disturbed about being caught.

Just too much bullshit around the whole Jizzlaine racket.

If there were other people involved they'd be in jail. You don't think media has contacts in the FBI that give them access to data via a VPN so the person cannot be tracked or the agent get caught for releasing password/account info? It would have been reported on. All they have is flight logs and assumptions over 20+ years. Getting "10,000" files on Epstein is trivial. I have more comments here in half the time.

Files can also be emails and texts. I have 20x what I have here on pat net. Video, photos, social media, etc. My FBI files and data would likely be 100-200k over the same period of time. My point is they have nothing. 10k files is a joke for a guy his age, well while he was alive.

Also in correspondences people use code words they talk about in person and then can communicate by email or text without it being obvious what it is they are talking about. So any files in text might be useless. We did this shit in high school as kids to hide stuff from parents and teachers. "Are you bringing the side dish of beans?" Beans = sex with someone. Sega for us was weed. "You wanna play some Sega?"

Until someone figures out all the codes used and other tactics that we already know, this is going no where. Remember they put Jared from Subway in prison for lesser, yet still gross crimes. He just had photos. Again still gross. That's why I asked Patrick for the ignore thread capability. That one thread I have no clue if any of the girls are under age. I don't need that in my browsing history.

I'm think that the FBI itself is corrupted. They have the evidence, but have been told to shut up about it.

At every level, the justice system was corrupted to protect Epstein. He was donating large sums to the Palm Beach police department hoping for favorable treatment, and the police chief there thought that Epstein was having people watch him and going through his trash. This is because the Palm Beach police department had done a very good job documenting the testimony of literally hundreds of underage girls.

Then the case was taken over by Kreischer the FL State Attorney and Epstein was given a ridiculously sweet deal, where anyone else would have quickly gone to prison for decades without possibility of parole.

WookieMan says

Remember they put Jared from Subway in prison for lesser, yet still gross crimes

Exactly! He didn't have dirt on so many US billionaires, so he didn't get special treatment.

I think the real key here is Epstein's business of assisting the super-rich with tax evasion.

Patrick says

Exactly! He didn't have dirt on so many US billionaires, so he didn't get special treatment.

I think the real key here is Epstein's business of assisting the super-rich with tax evasion.

Jared did well for his state in life. That's who Epstein was dealing with they just weren't famous or less famous than Jared was.

We're not close, but my uncle has $100M of net worth no problem. You wouldn't know him ever. Epstein suckered in wealthy people via the celebrities and politicians. Didn't mean they committed a crime as the politicians and celebrities. It was the lower level people. Not an accusation against my uncle, but that is who they, Maxwell and Epstein targeted. High net worth people no one knew. Low risk.

They got caught trafficking. Everyone wants to see people behind bars tomorrow. This has been going on 20 years plus. Fine they're hiding it and it's a cover up. Another day isn't gonna change a thing. It's a massive payday for a victim. I'm convinced that Maxwell and Epstein were the middle men and women to the end user. Flew celebrities and politicians on a plane to coerce young women to go places. AKA trafficking.

I dislike most the people listed. You can't just assume something nefarious happened. 6 years since Epstein died. This is Trump or even Biden. Biden would have toasted Trump before the debate if he had evidence. He didn't. Witch hunt.

WookieMan says

Biden would have toasted Trump before the debate if he had evidence. He didn't. Witch hunt.

I agree as the same info that the Left wants released is the same info that the Biden DOJ and FBI had access to also.

So if they had that info from 2021 to 2025 then why not release it if it could harm Trump and other Republicans and count on the 24/7 news cycle at CNN to do their bidding

Or is there too much risk as far as collateral damage like to Israeli interests that the NY Times editorial staff would decry antisemitism, so they seal the entire set of the most controversial Epstein files ?

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Ehud Barak was Clinton's guy, who sent over DNC Pollster/Campaign specialists to help him defeat Bibi in the late 90s.

Clinton got Barak to introduce a deal that gave 100% of Gaza and 90% of Samaria and Judea (falsely called the West Bank) to the Arabs, and was willing to negotiate the other 90%.

It was supposed to be a big part of Clinton's legacy.

Yassir Arafat rejected it outright, refused to negotiate, and started the second Intifada. Bibi replaced Barak in the next election around 2002-2003 and the two-state non-solution died.

I mention this because Barak's political career ended over 20 years ago.