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Is this true? The photo in the Newsweek story below shows the Trump Epstein duo. Photos aside, it appears that Trump did fly on Epstein’s private plane. Why?

"Is Donald Trump Mentioned in Epstein Files?
Trump's name is among those that appears in flight logs for Epstein's private plane. Trump flew on Epstein's private jet several times in the 1990s, mostly between Palm Beach, Florida and New York City, according to flight logs that were released as evidence in the trial of Ghislaine Maxwell, who was convicted on sex trafficking charges for helping Epstein abuse underage girls.

Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey and more—these are just some of the high-profile figures who allegedly flew in convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein's notorious "Lolita Express" private jet.

Epstein's plane was derisively called the "Lolita Express" by certain media outlets following allegations that it was used to fly underage girls to some of the late financier's properties.

The trial of Ghislaine Maxwell is currently ongoing in Manhattan, New York and the personal pilot of Jeffrey Epstein has given testimony.

Every Celebrity Named in Jeffrey Epstein FilesREAD MORE Every Celebrity Named in Jeffrey Epstein Files

For nearly 30 years, Larry Visoski (Lawrence Paul Visoski Jr.) piloted the Boeing 727 that reportedly hosted a spate of famous names which include Britain's Prince Andrew and numerous U.S. senators.

According to The Associated Press, Visoski testified that he never saw evidence of sexual activity on planes as he flew Epstein and his high-profile passengers aboard the two jets he piloted for roughly 1,000 trips between 1991 and 2019.

Trump is also mentioned in a 2016 deposition by Epstein accuser Johanna Sjoberg. She recalled spending several hours with Epstein at Trump's Atlantic City casino. She did not say if she actually met Trump and did not accuse him of any wrongdoing.

A Trump spokesperson told Newsweek in January 2024 that any claims regarding Trump's relationship with Epstein were "thoroughly debunked" by the release of documents.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-epstein-files-what-we-know-2081811

Who Flew on Jeffrey Epstein's 'Lolita Express' Plane?
Donald J. Trump
Bill Clinton
Kevin Spacey
Chris Tucker
Bill Gates
Prince Andrew
Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Violinist Itzhak Perlman
U.S. Sen. John Glenn
Former Senate majority leader George Mitchell
All names have been reported in Associated Press and CNN.

https://www.newsweek.com/who-flew-jeffrey-epstein-lolita-express-plane-full-list-people-named-1654827

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

" https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-epstein-files-what-we-know-2081811
Who Flew on Jeffrey Epstein's 'Lolita Express' Plane?
Donald J. Trump... All names have been reported in Associated Press and CNN."

You are quoting the liars, the Fake News media.

Patrick says

What Trump needs to do is release the videos that Epstein collected, with the girls' faces and privates blacked out.

If these girls are victims of pedophiles, they should never be subjected to those videos being released, even if they black out the girls faces, voices or body parts. Put yourself in their shoes, if I was a prostitute or rape victim, I would not want it broadcast to the world, not even if it could preserve my anonymity.

Beyond that in he age of deepfake, I’m going to need more than video evidence. We would need at least two witnesses for each crime. My guess is if there were witnesses there would have been prosecutions. But since there are none, my question is where is the crime? We know Epstein exploited young girls and Gislaine helped groom and traffic the girls. But do we know anything more for certain regarding actual crimes?

Ceffer says

I do not want to 'see' those videos, things are perfectly depressing enough with the state of the state or what can be gleaned of it. Push the devil back down in the hole for the time being.

You know we have reached a new level of hysteria from the Panicans when Ceffer drops the conspiracy theories for one second and basically says to everyone, call down and let sleeping dogs lie. If even Ceffer is done with the conspiracy you know the Panicans have jumped the shark. When Ceffer becomes the voice of reason, it’s time to wake up people.

I'm starting to think that blackmail has been a staple of both the mafia and government "intelligence" agencies for a very long time.

And that maybe the Rothschild fortune itself was based on blackmail. No proof of that, but they did get strangely rich strangely quickly.

Ceffer says

I cleaned it up a bit:

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says

The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks.

"God spared Trump's life with a miracle... so he could protect Pedos" - Panicans.

Patrick says

And that maybe the Rothschild fortune itself was based on blackmail. No proof of that, but they did get strangely rich strangely quickly.

Name stealing and ancient land piracy in the Steppes over centuries gave them their grub stakes. The Pharaohs transformed into the sea faring Phoenicians, who in turn migrated to become Venetian bankers and thence to the Vatican. The Vatican gave the Rothschilds the usury franchise as long as the Vatican itself held ultimate political power (Donation of Constantine).

Mafia was seeded by grub stakes from the Vatican and the Italian black nobles who had been around for centuries. The notion of humble Italian immigrants starting it all was likewise bogus. Criminal franchises are the original franchises and they are financed.

Also, many of the so called American oligarchs arising from humble origins were bullshit aka Carnegies, Rockefellers, Mellons, Vanderbilts, Morgans, DuPonts etc. They also were seeded from Euro bloodline dynastic fortunes and the Dutch and Royal East and West Indies Companies. The bloodlines maintain everything they need for independent living. They have their own banks, estates, farms, vineyards, herds, forests etc. There is probably more purloined gold and treasure lying underground than anybody has ever managed to see above ground.

Modern Intel organizations are offshoots of the Jesuits who are keepers of the horn books. Illuminati Satanic techniques and social magick are old going back to the Sumerians and Pharaohs. They are the psychopathy of alien managers of the human herd operating through bloodlines. They obviously prefer to dominate by threat, intimidation, murder, torture, and the usual and customary blackmails.

Anybody who is friendly to Andrew Tate has no business talking about sex trafficking and underage prostitution.

PanicanDemoralizer says

Anybody who is friendly to Andrew Tate has no business talking about sex trafficking and underage prostitution.

Tate is a fast talking loser. Never understood why anyone would look up to this guy as some sort of "man." Pretty sure he's gay as well. Fast talkers are usually gay.

Patrick says

The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks.

what if he's "That" close to wrapping up the investigation into the list he said is on his top to do list, but this distraction upends it and makes it more difficult to execute? The media and the Liberal lawfare machine would paint it all up as him trying to gin up his base over the failed Qanon bullshit, and the activist judges sides with them. Live to fight another day, would you rather he die on this hill, or essentially take out all of the same players by the route he's legally got them all by the short and curlys?

If he wraps up the J6, Crossfire hurricane, and the Russia collusion hoax and the beautiful Ukraine phone call, all of the palace intrigue surrounding the litany of impeachments. Don't you think it will ensnare everyone on our list that we want brought to Justice. I mean all the way down to John and Joe Pedosa. They are all going to hang. Just like Hillary said. Why do you think Hillary said that, it was a call for all hands on deck even and especially those involved with the Epstein skullduggery.

https://x.com/gc22gc/status/1943733842050740434

Patrick says

I'm starting to think that blackmail has been a staple of both the mafia and government "intelligence" agencies for a very long time.

And that maybe the Rothschild fortune itself was based on blackmail. No proof of that, but they did get strangely rich strangely quickly.

You naïvety is adorable @Patrick

We all remember how J Edgar operated, don’t we?

Patrick says

LOL Massie is a Lolbertarian who never liked Trump and voted for a $5T debt ceiling lift and continued peak COVID spending for Biden May 30th, 2023.

He also voted with Demos against Trump using Defense money to build a wall in his first term THREE times.

When the 100% of Epstein's victims agreed on cash settlements they all signed what is called non disclosure agreements.

That means the DOJ or the Victims cant disclose anyone related to said payouts.

This was all done by Merrick Garland the champion of the Democrats under the direction of Joe Biden.

Under this kind of ironclad agreement this can not be broken period.

Government would lose billions in a countersuit and they wont be risking it for it.

People need to see the bigger picture here and stop feeding into the drama influencers.

https://x.com/0HOUR1__/status/1944481446137065649

It's perfect. Dems and Lolbertarians can attack Trump for not releasing things he can't release.

Trump could have just said that instead of ventilating

PanicanDemoralizer says

When the 100% of Epstein's victims agreed on cash settlements they all signed what is called non disclosure agreements.
That means the DOJ or the Victims cant disclose anyone related to said payouts.

So? Just release the names of the rapists. What, did they also sign NDA’s?

Release Epstein files is a very difficult decision. Release all or a few. Look what happens to Prince Andrew. He is done forever. Every country secret service opens file to everyone who is politically active. Now they have beautiful toolbox to keep pressure on anyone from the list. Release it mean giving up this powerful evidence for blackmailing. Biden did not want talk about it. This is priceless.

Bd6r says

We all remember how J Edgar operated, don’t we?

I never really read about it, but seems to be a thing:

https://www.historyonthenet.com/j-edgar-hoovers-50-year-career-of-blackmail-entrapment-and-taking-down-communist-spies

Is this why the Epstein psyops amplification is all about? The tsunami of rage and adversarial exploitation have reached a peak.

Force open the Pandora's Box and get your 'enemies' to help you? Epstein was a Satanic Temple of worship and human sacrifice where the 'elites' went to adore and pay their respects. The blackmail was incidental.

Could be a 'Trump switcheroo' but it is hard to tell yet.

Even raving Raskin is calling for the reveals now. How did that happen? Do they think they are so safe now that they can turn the psyops into adverse publicity against Trump without getting burned?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14901591/Jeffery-Epstein-Ghislaine-Maxwell-trump-congress.html

Jeffrey Epstein's accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell is ready to reveal 'truth' of the pedophile client list, say insiders. So, why are Republicans blocking her?

Maxwell, 63, is the only person behind bars - serving 20 years on child sex trafficking charges - despite the fact that pedophile Jeffrey Epstein allegedly controlled a web of underage girls.

Additionally, Epstein's victims alleged they were passed around as sex toys to his wealthy friends and billionaire business associates who regularly visited his homes including his private island, Little Saint James.

Now a source said: 'Despite the rumors, Ghislaine was never offered any kind of plea deal. She would be more than happy to sit before Congress and tell her story.

'No-one from the government has ever asked her to share what she knows. She remains the only person to be jailed in connection to Epstein and she would welcome the chance to tell the American public the truth.'

What that 'truth' is remains to be seen. Maxwell was convicted in 2022 over her role in a scheme to sexual exploit and abuse multiple minor girls with Epstein over the course of a decade.

Ghislaine's life expectancy just got a lot shorter.

Why isn’t Israel insisting that ALL Epstein evidence be released? If Israel is NOT involved, wouldn’t the evidence prove their innocence?

https://palexander.substack.com/p/the-truth-is-emerging-that-epstein

Patrick says

Ghislaine's life expectancy just got a lot shorter.

Doubt she will testify to shit and how would we know it was her and not another imposter. Months ago, the Woo chicken bones stated that even Jeffrey himself might return from the grave to testify.

So many psyops, so little time.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/assessing-epstein

epstein was obviously some sort of asset running some sort of ugly honeypot ring. he and ghislaine had all manner of ties to the intelligence community, this is exactly the sort of game the IC likes to play, and the stunning speed with which a whole bunch of charges got dropped back in 2008 after the FBI’s “operation leap year” led to a 53 page federal indictment for enticing and recruiting dozens of underaged girls into prostitution, sexual abuse, and sex trafficking cannot help but elicit suspicion. his infamous non-prosecution agreement led to this never being filed and full immunity from federal charges with slap on the wrist punishment in florida.

from there one would at least expect some level of future moderation, but nope. he became more politically connected than ever and the lolita express to epstein island was back in business and business was booming.

sorry, but this sort of stuff does not happen without all manner of very serious air cover. ...

it does make quite a lot of sense. ghislaine’s father, robert maxwell was widely believed to be mossad and everything around jeffrey seems to have weird distortion fields of tactical incompetence and extreme coincidence that never quite allow the truth to out.

a man who knew too much about some excruciatingly powerful and ruthless people who was under tight surveillance manages unseen suicide at just the moment everything to monitor and prevent it failed.

huh.

people are, of course, free to have their own views here, but to my mind, to call this a heckofa series of co-ink-i-dinks would seem to exceed the bounds of even the most charitable assessment.

some facts:

July 23, 2019 – First Suicide Attempt:

Epstein was found semi-conscious in his cell with neck injuries, initially reported as a possible suicide attempt. He was placed on suicide watch following this incident.

Surveillance footage from outside his cell during this event was requested by the attorney of Epstein’s cellmate, Nicholas Tartaglione, to determine if Tartaglione was involved. However, federal prosecutors later revealed that the MCC inadvertently preserved footage from the wrong cell block due to a clerical error. As a result, the footage from outside Epstein’s cell on July 22-23, 2019, was permanently deleted. A backup system also failed to retain the footage due to technical errors

August 10, 2019 – Epstein’s Death:

Epstein was found dead in his cell, ruled a suicide by hanging by the New York City medical examiner. Two cameras outside his cell in the Special Housing Unit (SHU) were reported to have malfunctioned, raising suspicions.

According to reports, one camera’s footage was deemed "unusable," though it was not specified whether this was due to technical failure, poor quality, or other issues. Other cameras in the area captured clearer footage, but none showed the interior of Epstein’s cell, as MCC cameras were positioned to monitor only external areas like hallways.

A Department of Justice (DOJ) report clarified that a hard drive issue, identified days before Epstein’s death, meant only one camera in the SHU was recording to DVR. This camera did not capture the entrance to Epstein’s tier or cell, limiting its usefulness. The cameras were functional for live monitoring by guards but did not record due to the hard drive problem.

The DOJ later released surveillance footage from the night of Epstein’s death, showing no one entering or exiting his cell from 10:40 p.m. on August 9 until 6:30 a.m. on August 10, supporting the conclusion of suicide with no evidence of foul play. However, a missing minute in the footage’s timestamp (skipping from 11:58:58 p.m. to 12:00 a.m.) raised further questions, though no definitive explanation for this discrepancy has been provided.

Additional Context

Guard Misconduct: Two guards, Tova Noel and Michael Thomas, assigned to monitor Epstein, were charged with falsifying records and failing to conduct required checks every 30 minutes. They admitted to sleeping and shopping online during their shift, contributing to the lack of direct supervision.

Suicide Watch Removal: Epstein was taken off suicide watch on July 29, despite his earlier attempt, and was not assigned a new cellmate after Tartaglione was transferred, violating protocol. This left him alone in his cell, with excess bed linens that he used to hang himself.

this latest video one is just more “you have to be kidding me” level outcome. ...

but what i find especially interesting now is this new push to “there were no files, no tapes, no black book or list, it was all just a misunderstanding or cunning lie.”

with all due respect, pull my other paw, it plays jingle bells.

personally, i simply do not believe that there is no list, no video, no record.

from the looks of things, epstein had more video equipment than spielberg and piles of very suspicious stuff that was, suspiciously, not seizable when found and that then disappeared.

https://x.com/chrismartenson/status/1944064520533545296

The FBI raided Epstein's Manhattan townhouse in July 2019, cracked open a safe, and found jewels, fake passports, photographs, and DVDs, but couldn't take it with them because they forgot to bring a warrant for the search. When they later returned -- surprise! -- it was all missing.

... it’s not about jeffrey, ghislaine and their probably creepy proclivities.

it’s about this:

do we really have a society of kompromat-extorted sex predators dug into the upper reaches of our government and business communities?

it’s kind of a big question. ...

political cabal by mutually assured destruction and enforced compliance to whoever is calling the shots owing to same and the knowledge that if you turn squealer, no place is safe and “was suicided” is always an option. ...

justifications are running amok.

scott adams (who has me blocked so i cannot respond to him directly) is now creating fantastical hobgoblin hostage puppies to excuse the refusal to release the epstien list.

"unless you are willing to experience every one of these wild surmises about some bad thing that might happen, you need to trust the government to decide what's best for you!" is not a serious position, it's a false framing by assumptive false premise.

possible does not mean certain or even likely. "would you favor going to buy a car if you knew you might one day kill a pedestrian who would have grown up to cure cancer?"

i mean, you can take this logic anyplace. ...

are we seriously to imagine that such a status quo is somehow the lesser of long-term evils or that leaders compromised by such kompromat are somehow more likely to be on our side or to lead to a better world?

this idea that we elect the president to “decide what the public can safely see” seems an intense inversion when speaking of an idea like “your government might be a compromised pedo cult.”

on what planet does safety lie with hiding that fact? ...

anyone espousing “trust the government to make good choices about when to lie to you about the government being liars” is not a serious person. ...

leaving out the “benefit” side of a cost/benefit equation seems like the very definition of an incomplete analysis.

what if full disclosure finally led to a more decent, uncaptured government more in line with american values and could restore some semblance of fiscal responsibility?

what if it gutted the two political parties and allowed us to finally break their strangle-hold on our politics?

scott’s take seems a one-sided political tapdance that boils down to "trust the government to decide what we the people should know about our leaders."

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/french-fried-monday-july-14-2025

As if this story couldn’t get any worse. Last Friday, Wired Magazine ran an explosive story under a very carefully worded headline, “Metadata Shows the FBI’s ‘Raw’ Jeffrey Epstein Prison Video Was Likely Modified.” It was a rookie mistake. The sub-headline cautiously clarified, “There is no evidence the footage was deceptively manipulated, but ambiguities around how the video was processed may further fuel conspiracy theories about Epstein’s death.”

The story was about the critical hallway camera footage from the morning Epstein allegedly hanged himself in federal custody, following a suspicious series of “coincidences” involving broken cameras and sleeping guards. Wired’s cavils and reservations were appropriate, even if darkly hilarious. Saying there’s “no evidence” that a manipulated video was deceptively manipulated on purpose is technically true, but the altered video itself is the evidence of deception. ...

“If a lawyer brought me this file and asked if it was suitable for court, I’d say no. Go back to the source. Do it right,” Wired’s digital forensic expert said. “Do a direct export from the original system—no monkey business.” The DOJ’s “raw” video’s metadata included references to at least two different Adobe project files and two specific source clips with different dates.

If this happened during a trial, the judge might even allow ultra-rare mid-trial discovery, so the recipient’s lawyers could take depositions, scrutinize hard drives, and so forth. You can bet that motion would be filed, at least.