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Some of the interview:

https://stateofthenation.co/?p=209353

Posted on February 6, 2024 by State of the Nation

In a stunning turn of events, renowned journalist Tucker Carlson has embarked on a mission of historic proportions. With the fate of Ukraine and the world hanging in the balance, Carlson has arrived in Moscow, Russia, determined to interview none other than President Vladimir Putin. Can this audacious move be the key to ending the war in Ukraine and preventing the looming catastrophe of World War Three? Read on to delve into this gripping tale of courage, journalism, and the quest for peace.

Tucker Carlson’s Exclusive Interview with Vladimir Putin in Moscow

TUCKER: What would you tell the people running America?

PUTIN: Our message is Russia is not your enemy. We don’t want war. We’re ready for peace. Your leaders seek conflict. This is not what we want. Russia stands for its own people. We do not want what is not ours.

TUCKER: Would you visit Washington?

PUTIN: Yes, of course. I’ve been to the United States Before. I enjoy visiting and have met with every president except Joe Biden. If invited I would go. Yes.

TUCKER: What is your opinion of President Biden?

PUTIN: We’re convinced he is not running the country. Let’s say we have good sources that confirm that but it’s plain for anyone to see for themselves. The US has now entered into a dark period. It has unaccountable leadership.

TUCKER: Do you think Joe Biden won fair and square?

PUTIN: I would rather not get into domestic American politics but will say my embassy reported your southern border was better run than that 2020 election. (chuckles)

TUCKER: One poll in America shows you more popular than Biden – any reaction?

PUTIN: (laughs) I don’t know if that should be taken seriously but Russian ideals have support. We believe in traditional values; marriage is between a man and a woman: men are men and women are women.

TUCKER: Who would you like to see as the next president of the United States?

PUTIN: Once again it is not for us to say or get involved. Contrary to longstanding accusations we do not meddle in your elections. We don’t need to because the same people end up running things anyway.

TUCKER: Why did you invade Ukraine?

PUTIN: Did we invade or were we invaded? Look at the history. Look at the people living there. Historically it’s we who were invaded and are simply fighting back now. The lands and people are Russian and we will have again what was always ours.

TUCKER: How will you feel if Trump won again?

PUTIN: We had good relations when Mr. Trump was president. There was no war. Our relations were at a high point. That said nothing is predictable or stays the same. We will have to see.

TUCKER: What do you think of Mr. Zelensky and what would be your message to him?

PUTIN: I remember laughing to his jokes when he was a comedian in Russia. Let’s go back to laughs.

TUCKER: Why is that?

PUTIN: There are strong financial entities in whose interest it is to keep us as adversaries. One of your presidents warned against that. We Russians do not have that problem.

TUCKER: Do you see the United States as an enemy?

PUTIN: No. Categorically no. We were allies in WWII. Russians helped settle Alaska, California and we were in Hawaii too. Our people are not enemies but those in DC are certainly not our friends.

TUCKER: Can you be more specific and name names?

PUTIN: It would be pointless. It is not up to us to solve your domestic issues. Besides, I’m sure you know the names better than us.

TUCKER: So are you saying your adversary is not Joe Biden but the people behind him?

PUTIN: Exactly. Joe Biden may not even be aware of what’s going on. He may not understand the level of sanctions thrown at Russia. Who put those sanctions together? Those are our the adversaries.

TUCKER: Is that why you are championing the BRICS?

PUTIN: The BRICS would exist anyway. It’s a natural reaction to the western trading block. It’s a counterweight. When the dollar is weaponized against states there will be a natural alternative to it. That’s what we want.

TUCKER: Is that why you and Russia have been targeted?

PUTIN: It’s more complicated than that but I’m sure it’s a good part of the reason. Whenever the dollar is endangered, the United States takes extreme measures. It cannot afford to have the dollar fail.

TUCKER: But isn’t Russia weaker and more vulnerable economically than the US?

PUTIN: When you look at the size of economies we are small. But few people take into account our vast natural resources. Russia has over $80 trillion in the ground. No country even comes close to us.

TUCKER: What is your opinion of President Biden?

PUTIN: We are convinced he is not running the country. Let’s say we have good sources that confirm that but it’s plain for anyone to see for themselves. The US has now entered into a dark period. It has unaccountable leadership.

TUCKER: OK. Point well taken but don’t you have the same issues in Russia.

PUTIN: Yes. To a degree. But in Russia those interests are more aligned with the thinking of the average Russian man on the street. In the United States, that is not the case. The elites have deserted you.

TUCKER: So who do you think is running the US then?

PUTIN: The same forces which have always run it. You may change presidents but you do not change those in real power. That is who we have to deal with. Joe Biden is just a facade for this power structure.

TUCKER: Thank you for sitting down with us. How is your health? There have been some rumors……

PUTIN: I’m glad to talk to you and through you to the American people. I’m fine. I feel good. Given my years I’m in the best of health but father time.

TUCKER: There have been persistent reports you have cancer?

PUTIN: I assure you those rumors are false. If I had cancer and beat it I would share the good news and the cure with the world.

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TUCKER: When you say some fear him are you saying Musk has enemies?

PUTIN: It’s clear to see he has enemies within the United States – the way he was stripped of $50 billion in assets – we would call that being signaled out for special treatment. It’s unfair on the face of it.

TUCKER: Didn’t you fear Musk when he started supplying Ukraine with Starlink gear?

PUTIN: If anyone seriously thinks a few internet dishes can defeat the might of Russia – well what can I say. But no, we did not fear or blame Mr. Musk. The government didn’t give him much choice.

TUCKER: Alot has changed in the world. What’s your opinion of Elon Musk?

PUTIN: We see Mr. Musk as a businessman – a highly successful one. He’s built a great fortune and a huge following. He’s a unique thinker with a force of personality who cannot be bought. Some fear that.

TUCKER: Do you any advice for Elon?

PUTIN: I would say continue on. Do not be intimidated. But if the going ever gets too rough there is Russia. We would gladly open our doors to you. We have welcomed American businessmen before and would value someone of Mr. Musk’s caliber.

TUCKER: Let’s turn to Trump. First tell me how you feel about the current situation with the likelihood of him being reelected?

PUTIN: It would be a bit strange and out of order but we are well prepared. He has promised to end the fighting in Ukraine and we support that notion.

TUCKER: How could he and you end the war so fast?

PUTIN: For one thing he never insulted us. He has a great respect for Russia. We would start from a position of friendship and trust – then all problems are solvable. We could get it done. Trust me.

TUCKER: Are you referring to Biden calling you a killer?

PUTIN: We have been the recipients of numerous insults and slurs going back a few generations of politicians. Mr. Trump was a refreshing break from that. He is very popular in Russia. Perhaps that won’t do him any good.

TUCKER: Are you in any communication with Trump?

PUTIN: No. Of course not. But should he win again our lines of communication would open up instantly whereas right now we have no dialogue with President Biden.

TUCKER: That’s shocking to me. No one from the White House has been in contact with you?

PUTIN: That’s right. No one has called since we congratulated Mr. Biden on his election victory. It’s puzzling to us that communications are colder now than during the Cold War.

TUCKER: How do you think the 2024 election will go?

PUTIN: We are just observing. It’s our responsibility to be vigilant since it will impact the world. We are hoping the election is carried out in a way where the results can be believed. In Russia we do not have mail in ballots.

TUCKER: Let’s turn to China. What is your relationship like?

PUTIN: President Xi and I are especially close. Russia and China are enjoying good relations as of now which is an obvious asset to us since they are one of our biggest energy partners. We will continue to be friends.

TUCKER: There are accusations China has helped you in the war in Ukraine. Is that true?

PUTIN: That is not something I can discuss. Let’s just say Russia isn’t an isolated power. That strategy has failed. We have more allies and trading partners now than before the war started.

TUCKER: Do you ever contemplate a situation where Russia and China may join forces against the United States?

PUTIN: Do you mean economically or militarily? I would say we want neither. It’s not in our interest to clash with the US because all sides would lose in such a conflict.

TUCKER: Speaking of conflicts, what is your take on the Gaza situation?

PUTIN: It is really unfortunate. The Palestinians are being devastated. Israel is acting in an unconstrained manner. It shows the terrible double standards in the world. Where are the sanctions on Israel?

TUCKER: Is Russia involved in any way especially through your alliance with Iran?

PUTIN: No. Of course not. We do not oppose the existence of Israel but at the same time we support the right of the Palestinians to self-determination. We want to be even-handed.

TUCKER: Are you following what’s happening on the US southern border?

PUTIN: Actually, yes. It’s part of my daily briefing. We Russians find it ironically amusing your Congress will spend billions protecting foreign borders but neglect its own. It’s quite laughable but deadly.

TUCKER: Deadly? How do you mean that?

PUTIN: Deadly serious of course. People are dying daily crossing your border in an uncontrolled way. It is a free-for-all. The world hasn’t seen anything like it in the modern era – reckless for a country to throw itself wide open like that.

TUCKER: Is Russia taking advantage of the border situation in any way?

PUTIN: No. Why should we? We don’t have to do a thing. America is self-destructing. And as Napoleon said, don’t stand in the way of your enemy destroying themselves.

TUCKER: So then you do see America as an enemy?

PUTIN: That was just a saying but the current administration is definitely not a friend.

TUCKER: Can that be changed?

PUTIN: That’s why you have elections.

TUCKER: Thank you again for continuing to engage with me on so many different topics. Can we get even more interesting so to speak?

PUTIN: For sure. I am open to most subjects.

TUCKER: Let’s touch on climate change. It’s still being pushed in the United States and Europe. What’s your position?

PUTIN: Humanity is not even a Type 1 civilization on the Kardashev scale. If we can’t harness the energy potential of the planet how can we control the climate?

TUCKER: Are you at least concerned?

PUTIN: I’m more concerned with real issues. Climate change is not one of them. The Earth does a fairly good job of regulating itself. And if Siberia gets a little warmer all the better. More farmland for Russia.

TUCKER: But what would you tell the true believers who’re convinced we’re headed for disaster?

PUTIN: I’d tell them worrying about climate change is like complaining about the weather. If you don’t like the climate, move. If you are worried about the weather, get an umbrella.

TUCKER: Along those lines, how do you see the transgender movement?

PUTIN: It’s interesting to me that all the things which use to be a target of blackmail are now badges of honor. In Russia there are no laws either way but we certainly do not force our children into it.

TUCKER: Russia has been criticized for its ant gay laws and as being unfriendly to LGBTQ+.

PUTIN: We have laws which protect our children. And we do not drape our embassies in rainbow flags. That’s correct. Otherwise we do not interfere in the private lives of adult citizens.

TUCKER: Do you follow American sports? We are about to have the Super Bowl.

PUTIN: In fact, yes. Russia is a great sporting nation. We hosted the Winter Olympics and the World Cup fairly recently. We like all sports.

TUCKER: What do you think of American football?

PUTIN: It’s an interesting sport. But why do you call it football when the ball is almost always played with the hands? It also seems needlessly violent at times.

TUCKER: That’s true. Will you be watching?

PUTIN: The game will not be shown in Russia.

TUCKER: So you won’t get to see Taylor Swift either then?

PUTIN: No. We have been given a reprieve.

TUCKER: Thank you President Putin for your time.

Patrick says

TUCKER: So you won’t get to see Taylor Swift either then?

PUTIN: No. We have been given a reprieve.

Lol

Russia is the only country in the world where christians are still running the show.

socal2 says

FFS. What fucking truth? That Russia didn't illegally invade Ukraine and get hundreds of thousands of human beings killed and grievously wounded?

Well the United States shouldn't have legally overthrown Ukraine in 2014 and setup a puppet government which created a civil war in Ukraine that led to direct Russian intervention.

WookieMan says

I like Tucker, but he went from a cushy job at Fox to having to fend for himself.

Look, he worked for Fox. That means he was a willing propagandist for years, and he made millions being a propagandist. He can just retire. He doesn't need money. I don't trust him to have a soul though either. Oliver Stone did a 4 part interview that was 3 hours and 50 minutes long total, years ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Putin_Interviews

Why do people wait for some lying piece of shit talking head controlled opposition twat to interview him? Putin is everywhere. He's already made his case, just nobody will spend an OUNCE of effort to know what it is. Oh, spend 2 minutes online to find out? Oh that's too much work.

No matter how fucking easy we make it, people still need it served to them on a silver platter, with a binky, be handed a spork and twisty straw. I'm fed up with it.

That transcript has a bunch of quotable lines. Do people think it is legitimate? Seems maybe a bit "on the nose."

richwicks says

He can just retire. He doesn't need money.

I think he was born pretty rich.

Aw, c'mon, Puti-cakes, spit it out. The Swiss Octagon, the Vatican, Chatham House, the Masons, RIIA and the Nazi/Dynastic Corporate-ocracy.

https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=236156

OBAMA, who in turn is run by the anti-anti-communist progressives, same since the late 19th.

The same Elizabeth Stanton, Margeret Sanger, Dewey, Donovan, Dulles, etc. types along with their ethno Brooklyn Bolshevik and POC recruits.

And where would we be without the Mockingbird AI Botswarm headlines against Tucker? Have the efforts to payroll the demonization of Russia from the fiat printing press money mills failed?

Fake but fun.

Ceffer says

And where would we be without the Mockingbird AI Botswarm headlines against Tucker? Have the efforts to payroll the demonization of Russia from the fiat printing press money mills failed?

What I heard in my head when seeing this graphic:

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/548faab4-4523-45d8-93de-9a88f8325ed1

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Patrick says

to quote George carlin. “Truth would blow the whole system up “… paraphrasing more or less

It's available! No paywall.

https://tuckercarlson.com/the-vladimir-putin-interview/

Alts:


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This is rewindable if you missed the beginning.

VERY interesting about Russia asking if it was possible to eventually join NATO and being totally rebuffed by Clinton in the 90s, the CIA's support of Caucasian Seperatists in the 2000s, etc.

My belief that Russia Russia Russia is a distraction for the Deep State to use against their inaction and profit relationship with the CCP.

If Evil Putler didn't exist, the deeds of the CCP would come to the forefront and disturb the outsourcing and financing between Wall St. and Beijing.

I thought Tucker did a good job and asked some very pointed questions. I was worried it was going to be another Col MacGreggor type interview with Tucker accepting all of his cocksure and outlandish statements as Gospel without any challenges.

Can't say Putin came across too well in terms of what his end goal or what a "win" looks like in Ukraine. Putin jabbered on again and again about having to kill Nazis and citing history from hundreds of years ago as if there have been no border or ethnic adjustments creating new realities in the 21st century. Putin also cited the debacle in Canada (with the old SS guy) as proof that the West are somehow complicit in trying to foment the neo-Nazi movement.

AmericanKulak says

VERY interesting about Russia asking if it was possible to eventually join NATO and being totally rebuffed by Clinton in the 90s

Putin says that Clinton seemed open to it, but when he asked around he was told no. That implies that the Deep State is really in control, not the president.

AmericanKulak says

the CIA's support of Caucasian Seperatists in the 2000s

I didn't know about this. Definitely interesting.

Also, I had no idea that Russia ever felt threatened by Poland.

https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/post-putin-interview-analysis

Initial thoughts after the interview:

-Putin knows way too much history

-Putin is operating on an intellectual plane far above all US politicians

-Putin appears to want cooperation but the West have isolated Russia

-Putin does not want to invade Poland or take over the world

-Putin is not the deranged warmonger the MSM describes him as

-Putin is well-aware of the “Deep State” and recognizes the CIA as nefarious

I really wanted to see Putin go into detail on the degeneration of Western society, gender insanity, etc., because I think it would have resonated with the American People. The history about Ukrainian Nazism will be effective and his talk of “denazification” will certainly draw some attention.

Obviously I wanted Tucker to ask Putin about the biolabs in Ukraine, but as I stated yesterday, this topic might be too far of a jump down the rabbit hole for those new to this realm. This interview seemed to be an introductory first impression to appeal to Western citizens and disprove the MSM-created perception of Putin.

Anyone who watched the interview objectively would have to agree that Putin is not the monster we were told he was, and negotiations can be made if there is competency from US leadership. Hopefully this will change the perception of the US being innocent darlings in the conflict, and can eventually lead to mass realization that the US/NATO are the ones who brought war and weapons to Russia’s doorstep via espionage and CIA color revolutions.

And what I posted as a transcript before today seems to be false. Pretty sure those words were not in the interview.

Putin made a good point about at least some of the RussiaRussiaRussia being overspecialized Cold War Soviet Experts not wanting to lose their jobs or influence or department/NGO funding.

The ol' Military Industrial Intelligence Complex hypothesis. Thousands of PhDs, Translators, etc. would lose their specialized jobs with little private enterprise viability, and there would be far too many to absorb in overstuffed academic departments, esp. in a declining field.

Tucker wasn't a grovelling ass kiss, he asked some tough questions about why Russia doesn't pull out unilaterally, about the status of the journalist (who knows what the real truth is), etc. I would have liked to see a barb about Iran and the Ortho-Shi'a lovey dove.

(EDIT: I mean the latter in a civilizational/geopolitical way, not in a religious way)

Just embedding it:


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Imagine ANY president going through history like that since 1950..