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2024 Feb 28, 9:55am   155 views  6 comments

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I support Convention of States; a national movement to call a convention under Article V of the United States Constitution, restricted to proposing amendments that will impose fiscal restraints on the federal government, limit its power and jurisdiction, and impose term limits on its officials and members of Congress.

WHY CALL AN ARTICLE V CONVENTION?

Simple: to bring power back to the states and the people, where it belongs. Unelected bureaucrats in Washington, D.C. shouldn’t be allowed to make sweeping decisions that impact millions of Americans. But right now, they do. So it all boils down to one question: Who do you think should decide what’s best for you and your family? You, or the feds? We’d vote for the American people every single time.

WHAT IS AN ARTICLE V CONVENTION ANYWAY?
Article V of the U.S. Constitution gives states the power to call a convention to propose amendments. It takes 34 states to call the convention and 38 to ratify any amendments that are proposed. Our convention would only allow the states to discuss amendments that, “limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, impose fiscal restraints, and place term limits on federal officials.”

SO ARE YOU MAKING ANY PROGRESS?
You better believe it! Since Convention of States launched in 2013, we’ve been spreading like wildfire. With millions of supporters nationwide, we have petition signers in every single state house district across America. We’re actively working in all fifty states to pass the Convention of States Resolution! Check out our latest stats below.


Good idea, but their site includes Google spyware, which you can verify by looking at the html source.

Also, Article V of the Constitution does not seem to let the states act independently without Congress:


Article V
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

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1   UkraineIsTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 28, 10:00am  

Best part is that the Libs have zero clue what a constitutional convention will mean for them:


2   UkraineIsTotallyFucked   2024 Feb 28, 10:04am  

Patrick says


states the power to call a convention to propose amendments.


No. The state's have the power to call on Congress to call for a convention. But there is no enforcement mechanism to make Congress actually do it.

SCOTUS tells them to? Congress can still say 'fuck you' in response. Sure it would cause a Constitutional crisis. But they would rather have that than loose power. Esp. since it would be highly likely the Senate might face a 17th amendment repeal as an outcome from said convention.

Patrick says


Our convention would only allow the states to discuss amendments that, “limit the power and jurisdiction of the federal government, impose fiscal restraints, and place term limits on federal officials.”


No such limitation can be enforced. Conventions can rewrite the whole damn constitution if they want.

That's what happened at the convention called for to make 'limited reforms' to our first constitution, the Articles of Confederation. Instead, we got an entirely new constitution -- our current one.

This site is just grifting for donation money...or will soon be. Or, they are serious and purposely omitting the above facts in order to get people amenable to a 'limited' convention via the same bait & switch tactic that was successful 237 years ago.
3   tanked   2024 Feb 28, 6:24pm  

Wouldn't you just need 1 person from Congress if the states called on Congress to do it? It says, 2/3 of both houses, OR the states call for it. Since the 2nd condition is met, there is no minimum number from Congress specified at that point.
4   UkraineIsTotallyFucked   2024 Mar 3, 8:59am  

tanked says


Wouldn't you just need 1 person from Congress if the states called on Congress to do it? It says, 2/3 of both houses, OR the states call for it. Since the 2nd condition is met, there is no minimum number from Congress specified at that point.


No.

And you are wrong about the States calling for the convention, btw.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments..


Regardless of which Amendment route, Congress gets the actual ball rolling.
5   stereotomy   2024 Mar 3, 10:59am  

UkraineIsFucked says

tanked says



Wouldn't you just need 1 person from Congress if the states called on Congress to do it? It says, 2/3 of both houses, OR the states call for it. Since the 2nd condition is met, there is no minimum number from Congress specified at that point.


No.

And you are wrong about the States calling for the convention, btw.


The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments..


Regardless of which Amendment route, Congress gets the actual ball rolling.

Note the word "Shall" in terms of 2/3 of the states voting for a convention. "Shall" has a very special legal meaning - it is mandatory. If 2/3 of the states call a convention, then Congress is legally compelled by the Constitution to call for a Convention.
6   UkraineIsTotallyFucked   2024 Mar 5, 8:46am  

stereotomy says

Note the word "Shall" in terms of 2/3 of the states voting for a convention. "Shall" has a very special legal meaning - it is mandatory. If 2/3 of the states call a convention, then Congress is legally compelled by the Constitution to call for a Convention.


Hahahahaha. What are courts gonna do? Congress doesn't even follow its own rules.

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