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151   Ceffer   2025 Jan 20, 12:52pm  

Patrick says





Biden's dead and impeaching his Presidency is more important than going after a stable of silicon wearing masked actors. I would prefer that the 'shadow government' of SES be summarily arrested for tribunal, exposed to the public and executed after debriefings and interrogations.
152   Tenpoundbass   2025 Jan 20, 3:04pm  

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/236/79/

Burdick v. United States, 236 U.S. 79 (1915)

Here's an enlightening read, that should answer everyone's question.

The facts, which involve the effect of a pardon of the President of the United States tendered to one who has not been convicted of a crime nor admitted the commission thereof, and also the necessity of acceptance of a pardon in order to make it effective, are stated in the opinion.

He declined to accept the pardon or answer questions as to the sources of his information, or whether he furnished certain reporters information, giving the reason, as before, that the answers might tend to criminate him. He was presented by the grand jury to the district court for contempt, and adjudged guilty thereof and to pay a fine of $500, with leave, however, to purge himself by testifying fully as to the sources of the information sought of him, "and in event of his refusal or failure to so answer, a
Page 236 U. S. 87
commitment may issue in addition until he shall so comply," the court deciding that the President has power to pardon for a crime of which the individual has not been convicted and which he does not admit, and that acceptance is not necessary to toll the privilege against incrimination.
Burdick again appeared before the grand jury, again was questioned as before, again refused to accept the pardon, and again refused to answer upon the same grounds as before. A final order of commitment was then made and entered, and he was committed to the custody of the United States marshal until he should purge himself of contempt, or until the further order of the court. This writ of error was then allowed.
The question in the case is the effect of the unaccepted pardon. The Solicitor General, in his discussion of the question, following the division of the district court, contends (1) that the President has power to pardon an offense before admission or conviction of it, and (2) the acceptance of the pardon is not necessary to its complete exculpating effect. The conclusion is hence deduced that the pardon removed from Burdick all danger of accusation or conviction of crime, and that therefore the answers to the questions put to him could not tend to or accomplish his incrimination.
Plaintiff in error counters the contention and conclusion with directly opposing ones, and makes other contentions which attack the sufficiency of the pardon as immunity and the power of the President to grant a pardon for an offense not precedently established nor confessed nor defined.
The discussion of counsel is as broad as their contentions. Our consideration may be more limited. In our view, of the case it is not material to decide whether the pardoning power may be exercised before conviction. We may, however, refer to some aspects of the contentions of plaintiff in error, although the case may be brought to
153   Tenpoundbass   2025 Jan 20, 3:16pm  

So it looks like none of them have to say anything for now. Just wait until real cases develop. Then decide if they accepted the pardon or not. Very convenient.

Besides this seems like a ruling that may be revisited or challenged. At least there's a legal precedence for challenging Biden's Pardons. It seems his son and Liz Cheny are the only two that has been dumb enough to publicly accept them.

The other's can stay tight lipped, then when the case comes for them, reject the pardon, and remain silent with the 5th.
154   Patrick   2025 Jan 20, 10:38pm  

https://www.kunstler.com/p/another-door-opens


It is a fact, perhaps missed by some of you, that Rep. James Comer’s House Oversight Committee just last week issued criminal referrals on James Biden (“Joe’s” brother) and First Son Hunter. Wait-a-minute, was not Hunter already pardoned for Gawd-knows how many misdeeds dating back to 2014, and (supposedly) preemptively for any alleged crimes to come ever hereafter? Part B of that may yet have to be adjudicated. A pardon is not intended to be a get-out-of-jail-free card.
156   Ceffer   2025 Jan 21, 7:31pm  

Biden Actor didn't pardon anybody, the Senior Executive Service and their Globalist masters did under fraud. They are buying time for their lackeys as a tossed bone to maintain loyalty and hopefully cover for themselves when the stalking horses start arriving. Biden Actor is an irrelevant prop.

I would much rather Trump go after these faceless demons and their masters than their now useless idiots, who were manufactured and supported to take their flak. Some pundits in the Woo think that he will.
157   Patrick   2025 Jan 21, 7:47pm  




Could be.

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