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PeopleUnited says

Money makes them want to do this. Fauci made sure they got paid.

If that desperate for money to do unethical things that's a sickness in itself.

PeopleUnited says

Like the ones who create fake sexual organs, give hormone injections to kids to create genotype inappropriate sex characteristics and cut off kids breasts dicks? Those scientists?

Again a sickness as bad as creating viruses. I also think non-necessary plastic surgery is unethical for the medical field. Treating people with mental illnesses and you feed it as a doctor is unethical. "My boobs are too small, but cant you give me bigger ones?" That's called insecurity and they should be required to do a monthly visit with a mental health specialist for at least 1-2 years before getting approved for it. A therapist basically.

The medical field doesn't follow HIPPA and the phony hippocratic oath is utter BS to make it seem like they're ethical. Meandering a bit here but between science and medicine there's a lot of evil shit they're doing that makes society worse. So I believe we're in agreement. If you have to make money off mutilating and killing people, that's a mental illness as a doctor or scientist.

There are a ton of medical fields that could use more docs. Pediatrician, Neurology, Heart Docs, ER, etc. Treat a disease, don't create it whether a virus or a non-essential procedure on mentally retarded people furthering their mental retardation.

Fauci created the virus so he could sell the “cure.” He is a snake oil salesman only worse, he creates the disease so he can treat it.

PeopleUnited says

Fauci created the virus so he could sell the “cure.” He is a snake oil salesman only worse, he creates the disease so he can treat it.

He funded it via a 3rd party. Yes Fauci should be held accountable. But so should those "scientist" that did the actual creation of it. The administrators and companies associated with it.

Sorry to dog lovers out there, but this is the only analogy coming to mind this morning. Getting Fauci in prison is docking the tail of a dog. The dog still lives. You have to go after ALL the others involved and put the dog down. Tail wagging the dog or whatever the phrase is.

Point being Fauci can go down, but this will happen again. People, Americans physically worked on creating this virus besides him. They should be punished as well. I can't create a batch of LSD that is basically harmless, but can create a virus that can kill???

The amped charges are an effort to arrive at the death penalty, and if that takes second degree plus terrorism, rather than first degree, they’ll do it. It’s clearly to send a message that, while some murders aren’t worth sniffing at (like black on white homicides), THIS murder is wrong. Don’t get any ideas to end your corrupt betters.

I’m not even sure they have the right guy, based on the murder site images and the “suspect elsewhere in NYC” images (where he’s smiling). Dark unibrows don’t just go away for a few images, then reappear. The point, I’m afraid, is to throw the book at someone. Doesn’t have to be the right guy, just make an example.

goofus says

The amped charges are an effort to arrive at the death penalty, and if that takes second degree plus terrorism, rather than first degree, they’ll do it. It’s clearly to send a message that, while some murders aren’t worth sniffing at (like black on white homicides), THIS murder is wrong. Don’t get any ideas to end your corrupt betters.

I’m not even sure they have the right guy, based on the murder site images and the “suspect elsewhere in NYC” images (where he’s smiling). Dark unibrows don’t just go away for a few images, then reappear. The point, I’m afraid, is to throw the book at someone. Doesn’t have to be the right guy, just make an example.

So there was some other random guy walking around in PA with fake ID used in the NY hostel, 3D-printed glock frame and suppressor? 🤡

I don’t know, but thought it was worth pointing out the images. Entrapment and planting evidence are FBI hallmarks these days (unfortunately). Look at Jan 6th. It’s worth keeping “innocent until proven guilty” in mind, especially when the govt has incentive to make an example of someone or some movement.

gabbar says

Patrick says

So who was Epstein's handler? Someone at Mossad?

Mossad is NEVER out of the picture, I suspect.

I suspect that the reason we never got any full explanation of the assassination of President Kennedy is that it was ultimately Israelis who killed him because he didn't want them to have the bomb.

I don't know that it's true, but I do know that criticism of Israel is simply not allowed in the corporate press, ever, no matter what they do.

Kind of like how the corporate press never mentions that black people kill while people at about 20x the reverse rate. Never ever on TV or in the NY Times. White people are expected to let themselves be murdered by racists and never complain.

Patrick says

I suspect that the reason we never got any full explanation of the assassination of President Kennedy is that it was ultimately Israelis who killed him because he didn't want them to have the bomb.

Why did it take until the 2010s for this to even be a theory? I've read everything from Lane to Garrison to Mars to Stone, and not once was Mossad ever brought up even as a sidebar. Kennedy was massively pro-Israel ( https://www.jfklibrary.org/archives/other-resources/john-f-kennedy-speeches/new-york-ny-19600826 ) Watched every Documentary or Movie from "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" to "JFK". I've heard that the OAS was involved. Always the Mafia punishing the Kennedys for their betrayal, and the CIA mad he shut down Bay of Pigs and was going to deescalate in Nam. There's literally nothing in the so-far declassified archives on anything Israel or Mossad either.

And Roger Stone is not a huge Israel fan.

This is just a Qatari TV smear which I've described before. One PFLP/PIJ guy on Qatari TV suggesting it once, then 'helpfully' translated from Arabic into English when it appeared in Humbug newsletters and sites.

Whenever I asked RichWicks for any evidence he had nothing, just a motive theory. It was US policy to have non-proliferation, even with France and Britain.

Stone's book is one of the latest (giving him access to more docs) and most comprehensive views of the JFK assassination, and he's right. It was Hoover, the CIA, and the Mob, with LBJ benefiting greatly, right down to his big Air Cav contract for his Texas cronies and long time donor Bell Helicopter. LBJ was the first candidate to campaign by helicopter.

AmericanKulak says

Why did it take until the 2010s for this to even be a theory?

Maybe it wasn't possible before to even suggest it.

But that said, I obviously don't really know, just speculating on why the details of Kennedy's assassination are still secret more than 60 years later.

Clearly someone or some group is being protected.

https://anti-empire.com/how-the-assassination-of-jfk-may-have-saved-the-israeli-nuclear-program/

What was at stake was the future of Israel’s nuclear program. Kennedy, with an exceptionally strong commitment to nuclear nonproliferation, was determined to do all he could to prevent Israel from producing nuclear weapons. Ben-Gurion (and later Eshkol) were equally determined to complete the Dimona project. For them, nuclear capability was an indispensable insurance policy against existential threats to Israel. The exchange between the American president and the two prime ministers illustrates both Kennedy’s tenacity and the Israeli leaders’ recalcitrance.

Earlier this week, we published – on the website of the National Security Archive – a collection of nearly 50 American documents from U.S. archives that illuminate for the first time the full scope of this secret American-Israeli confrontation. The collection includes not only the entire exchange of messages between the leaders – Kennedy, Ben-Gurion and Eshkol – but also many related American documents, some of which were declassified and became available only in recent months.

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault/2019-05-02/battle-letters-1963-john-f-kennedy-david-ben-gurion-levi-eshkol-us-inspections-dimona

None of this is evidence; none of it has to do with the Assassination itself. It's simply a search for a motive to pin it on Israel.

"Ziobad, so let me see if a motive can be built. Nothing about Oswald, Dealey Plaza, Warren Commission, etc. to pin on the Mossad, not one shred of evidence, not one Mossad agent seen in Dallas area, etc. etc."

A proposed motive != Evidence.

The site's "Team" is one guy:

Marko Marjanović – Editor:

2014 – 2019: Chief day-to-day editor for Russia Insider.

https://anti-empire.com/team/

A quick peek at the last few months reveals Marjanovic's interests: Good North Korea, Good CCP, Bad USA, Bad Israel, Good Yemen, M'poor Gaza, Serbian Russophiles smile in Moscow at destroyed Western Equipment on Display. He even calls the Ukraine-Russia conflict the "Slavgrinder" And very anti-Trump: https://anti-empire.org/p/trump-assembles-a-war-cabinet

In other words, the Shia (Qatar, Iran, Hezbollah, Assad Syria) Slav (Russia, Serbs & EO) Alliance propaganda.

I'm looking for evidence that Mossad/Israel was involved in the JFK assassination. Anybody can come up with a theory. "JFK was assassinated by CIA because he demanded debreifing UFOs by Feb 1964." - Written November 12th, 1963! That's the cincher right there!
https://www.livescience.com/33224-new-declassified-memos-jfk-kennedy-ufos-assassination.html

LBJ certainly had a motive, and the assassination happened on his home turf.

Well, Mossad is the Europlex's blame magnet Swiss Army Knife utility (not the they are blameless), so may as well use them for every convenient eventuality as if they have universal agency. Besides, it deflects the karma away from the head to delegate it to a tentacle.

Patrick says

LBJ certainly had a motive, and the assassination happened on his home turf.

All in Stone's book, learned so much shit about him. Basically with the Kennedy's being real popular, and RFK already discussed as the 1968 candidate, and LBJ being sidelined, his last chance at the Presidency was to see JFK gone.

Still, I bet it was a confluence of interests that wanted to kill JFK, and the Israel lobby may have been one of those interests. We won't really know until the files are completely open, and maybe not even then.

The Zionist founders and leaders of Israel were above all assassins. Truman recognized Isreal after he was almost assassinated. Before that, chief administrators of the British Mandate in Palestine were continuous targets for assassination, quite a few of which were successful. Hell, the PLO learned all their terrorist kit from all the dirty tricks the Zionists employed to steal a country.

Did the Mossad kill Kennedy? Maybe not, but they most likely provided logistics.

Zionists are the heirs of Barabbas, equally as murderous.

Not a bad start of the defense.