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Nobody's Buying the H1B bullshit anymore


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2024 Dec 25, 11:31pm   1,009 views  86 comments

by AmericanKulak   ➕follow (9)   💰tip   ignore  

Sorry Big Tech HR Girls and CEOs.

Nobody is buying the bullshit that lowering H1Bs will stop the next Werner von Braun or Einstein from being scooped up by the USA.

Everybody knows Raj probably doesn't have the 1-2 year nonname, fly-by-night Mumbai tech schoo degree. I suspect most couldn't pass a basic Linux Foundation or COMPTIA Core Test. You just want them because you don't have to pay them unemployment, work them 50-60 hours for 40, and that 40 at less than having the job done by an actual basic certified American (much less a CS degree from any university or college).

We have a visa for real world-class researchers, it's the O-1 Visa.

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29   TechBrosWon   2024 Dec 30, 9:23am  

https://x.com/jeetsidhu/status/1873771041526542433

This is India’s top defense analyst. He gloats about his wealthy well-educated family and tells an American tech workers to go polish his shoes.

The crazy part?

House rep
@RoKhanna
is best friends with him because of their shared Indian heritage. Look at their goofy evil smiles

https://x.com/Iyervval/status/1873607718273167362
Three generations of my ancestors have spoken & written, better English than your blue collar labourer family. I’ll hire you to polish my shoes though, because that’s the only thing you seem to be qualified for.
30   TechBrosWon   2024 Dec 30, 9:26am  

Hindus showing most racism and when whites/Sikhs come back.. crying like baby.

https://x.com/jeetsidhu/status/1873754292655403410
31   TechBrosWon   2024 Dec 30, 9:33am  

Whites screwed big time by Hindu H1B.

https://x.com/jeetsidhu/status/1873626330333630942
tl;dr Indian calls American “racist” to avoid the facts of the H1B scandal:

- Indians are ~75% of H1B visas
- Indians undercut US tech worker wages
- Tech jobs grew 20% from 2014-2019 but wages rose only 3% 2014-2019 (no labor shortage)

methinks the lady doth protest too much
32   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Dec 30, 9:33am  

WookieMan says


Aren't most H1B's tech sector anyway?


Nope. Because there isn't just a defined concentrated 'tech sector' anymore.

Like IT. H1B visa abuse is rife in an average non-tech sector firm's IT department. Famous case was a bunch of Disney parks IT folks forced to train their H1B replacements then shit canned.

There are IT departments in agriculture, retail, real estate, etc. now. And they all abuse the H1B bullshit.

The historical parallels with Roman plebes getting the can after Roman elites flooded the country with skilled slaves (nobody gave a rat's ass about the unskilled labor coming in - not even the plebians) are amazing to what is happening today.
33   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Dec 30, 9:41am  

BTW, the 13th Amendment banned indentured servitude as well as slavery.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

And the H1B relationship is classic indentured servitude.
34   TechBrosWon   2024 Dec 30, 9:43am  

https://x.com/arthurwatkins/status/1873572069671391384
Hiring only individuals from India on H1B visas may violate the Civil Rights Act of 1964 due to discrimination based on national origin.
35   TechBrosWon   2024 Dec 30, 9:44am  

This handle favoured by Elon is exposed as Hindu guy hired by 🇮🇳 government to push H1B visas.
https://x.com/cb_doge/status/1873189677722902909

Skills matter, not nationality.
36   RC2006   2024 Dec 30, 10:27am  

Most Indians are smarter dirtier versions of Hispanics but for tech sectors. Lowering wages across the board, then only bring in their own kind with their own culture.

It's straight up exploitation on all sides and needs to end.
37   TechBrosWon   2024 Dec 30, 10:42am  

RC2006 says


Most Indians are smarter dirtier versions of Hispanics but for tech sectors. Lowering wages across the board, then only bring in their own kind with their own culture.

It's straight up exploitation on all sides and needs to end.


Smart Mexicans never come to USA, They have relatively healthy environment.
The reason you are saying that you may have never traveled to India.

With all its drug lord problem Mexico is still 10000x better than Hindu India.
Hindu is desperate to leave. The only problem is their supremacist junk which made India a shithole travels with them to west.
West should be "0" Hindu by 2030.
38   TechBrosWon   2024 Dec 30, 10:55am  

Sikh art showing danger of BRICS.

39   RWSGFY   2024 Dec 30, 10:57am  

DOGEWontAmountToShit says

BTW, the 13th Amendment banned indentured servitude as well as slavery.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

And the H1B relationship is classic indentured servitude.


If this somehow ends up in front of SCOTUS the shit is open and shut. The question is how can it happen.
40   TechBrosWon   2024 Dec 30, 11:03am  

Can this gymnast qualify for H1-B visa?
https://x.com/NeverF84/status/1873715066232598887
42   RWSGFY   2024 Dec 30, 12:02pm  

Maga_Chaos_Monkey says







It took me less than 20 minutes to skim the whole thing. I didn't find anything about requirement for digital ID there. It relies on user reporting to determine who's minor and who's not and set the platform policies accordingly.

That "TheQuartering" cunt is stirring up shit for some purpose.
43   TechBrosWon   2024 Dec 30, 12:29pm  

RWSGFY says


Maga_Chaos_Monkey says







It took me less than 20 minutes to skim the whole thing. I didn't find anything about requirement for digital ID there. It relies on user reporting to determine who's minor and who's not and set the platform policies accordingly.

That "TheQuartering" cunt is stirring up shit for some purpose.



Must be Hindu trying to hide his H1B job theft and polluting rivers in 🇺🇸 crimes.
https://x.com/DennisxToxic/status/1847369174726877372
45   AmericanKulak   2024 Dec 30, 12:40pm  

Open Borders and H1Bs are Mr. Potters latest schemes to stop Bailey.


"Liquidation for Thee, Big Bailouts for Me!" - Club for Potter's Growth
46   RWSGFY   2024 Dec 30, 12:59pm  

AmericanKulak says






He's lying about "80hr weeks".
47   AmericanKulak   2024 Dec 30, 1:07pm  

"Pay your taxes so South Asian Children can have a better future and your kids have to compete internationally just to get an entry level job after finishing $80k college degree in STEM!"

48   AmericanKulak   2024 Dec 30, 1:09pm  

RWSGFY says

He's lying about "80hr weeks".

Of course he is. And 80hrs a week counting your money and figuring how to make more != putting the silver wrappers on Hershey Kisses at the factory for 80hours.

The former is a lot more fun and enjoyable.
49   DOGEWontAmountToShit   2024 Dec 30, 1:20pm  

RWSGFY says

If this somehow ends up in front of SCOTUS the shit is open and shut. The question is how can it happen.


I looked it up. Legal definition of indentured servitude is a contract to work for a single employer for a predetermined period without pay.

They are paid, so they are not IS.
50   RWSGFY   2024 Dec 30, 1:26pm  

DOGEWontAmountToShit says


RWSGFY says


If this somehow ends up in front of SCOTUS the shit is open and shut. The question is how can it happen.


I looked it up. Legal definition of indentured servitude is a contract to work for a single employer for a predetermined period without pay.

They are paid, so they are not IS.



These pesky definitions!
51   AmericanKulak   2024 Dec 30, 1:47pm  

Cow Dung is to some Indians the way Camel Urine is to Arabs the same way that Crystal Geodes are to Liberal Arts White Women.
52   WookieMan   2024 Dec 30, 2:33pm  

RWSGFY says

He's lying about "80hr weeks".

Likely lying. Depends on the work as well. I'd have no problem sitting at a computer or talking to people for 80 hours a week. I did it. Life is miserable and you get burned out mentally. A blue collar job, hell no. Not happening outside of a one off week during a job deadline. Your body would shut down if you did that for 4-6 weeks. Something like concrete labor.

Indians as far as H1B are weird though. They'll just work 12-14 hours, but talk on the phone all the time. I can't recall ever going into an Indian run gas station where they weren't talking on the phone with someone. Usually on speaker. I'm guessing it's the same in IT/tech with them. Ear buds in just talking to one of the 1B plus buddies back home.
53   AmericanKulak   2024 Dec 30, 3:07pm  

WookieMan says

Indians as far as H1B are weird though. They'll just work 12-14 hours, but talk on the phone all the time. I can't recall ever going into an Indian run gas station where they weren't talking on the phone with someone. Usually on speaker. I'm guessing it's the same in IT/tech with them. Ear buds in just talking to one of the 1B plus buddies back home.

This is what I've heard from several IT managers in the 90s and 2000s. They spend at least half the time on the phone, probably getting instructions from their cousin back in South Asia how to do the job they were hired to do.
54   HeadSet   2024 Dec 30, 3:24pm  

AmericanKulak says

$80k college degree in STEM

Please tell me where you can get a 4-year STEM degree for a mere $80k.
55   WookieMan   2024 Dec 30, 4:11pm  

HeadSet says

AmericanKulak says

$80k college degree in STEM

Please tell me where you can get a 4-year STEM degree for a mere $80k.

Dislike unions, but apprenticeships are the way to go. At the end of the day you have to do the job. I don't need to know about Anthropology if my goal is to be an engineer. While an interesting topic, it does nothing to advance civilization or our nation. I can just read that in my free time.

College should be two years industry related. Instead of 9 hours bull shit and 3 hours of what you majored in, just do 12-15 on the field you want to get into. Get through the pipeline faster so you can do what you want and help grow the economy in some fashion.
56   RC2006   2024 Dec 30, 4:15pm  

HeadSet says

AmericanKulak says


$80k college degree in STEM

Please tell me where you can get a 4-year STEM degree for a mere $80k.


Can be done easily if you had good grades and not taking out loans for 100% of your living expenses.
57   gabbar   2024 Dec 30, 4:28pm  

WookieMan says

Dislike unions, but apprenticeships are the way to go.

Makes too much sense, can't do it in US like Germany can.
58   RWSGFY   2024 Dec 30, 4:35pm  

HeadSet says


AmericanKulak says


$80k college degree in STEM

Please tell me where you can get a 4-year STEM degree for a mere $80k.



Easy in CA: start with 2 years in community college (essentially free if living with parents) and then transfer to one of the less prestigious UC or CSU schools (like UC Merced or Cal Poly Humboldt) where you'd pay less than $40K per year, room and board included.
59   Blue   2024 Dec 30, 4:48pm  

RWSGFY says


Easy in CA: start with 2 years in community college (essentially free if living with parents) and then transfer to one of the less prestigious UC or CSU schools (like UC Merced or Cal Poly Humboldt) where you'd pay less than $40K per year, room and board included.

Which year!
https://financialaid.ucmerced.edu/cost-attendance
Undergraduates who first enroll in Fall 2024
On-Campus, Off-Campus, At-Home
Food & Housing $21,446, $13,000, $8,020
Totals $43,954,$37,044,$32,322
Non-Residential Total $78,154,$71,244,$66,522
Actually it costs $27K/room for 3 room dorms as per a parent who sends his kid there!
60   AmericanKulak   2024 Dec 30, 4:57pm  

The US Navy can recruit white teenagers at 18, give them an IQ test, and then have them acting as a technician on a hidden nuclear reactor UNDER THE SEA, by 20-21.

Yet supposedly there's no way to recruit and train them to do coding work that an Indian does for 60-100k
https://x.com/FromKulak/status/1873284724057358646

(No Relation)

Excellent point.
61   AmericanKulak   2024 Dec 30, 6:00pm  




The Starliner had a massive city's worth of H1Bs + Indian Techs doing all the coding and much of the CAD work that Americans wouldn't do for the price Boeing wanted to pay them while it pocketed hundreds of millions in American taxpayer subsidies and breaks. It's first flight flubbed the orbit and now it's stuck to the ISS.
62   HeadSet   2024 Dec 30, 6:04pm  

RWSGFY says

Easy in CA: start with 2 years in community college

Yes, doing 2 years in community college would cut down the bill somewhat. I am not a resident of CA so no free tuition and my kid does not qualify for any needs based grants. I did suggest a local CC until she figured out what she wanted, but she wanted the "away from home" experience and the wife agreed so viola, $120k for the four years.
63   AmericanKulak   2024 Dec 30, 6:06pm  

WookieMan says


Dislike unions, but apprenticeships are the way to go.


Imagine in US Programmers had been more smart and less Heinleinian in the 90s, and started a Pro Association where State & Fed Gov demanded only licensed, Pro-Association accredited programmers could be contractors.

Funny thing, the people most bitchy about H1Bs not being harmful are General Dynamics, Lockheed, Navy Yard, Picatinny Arsenal, Civ DoD, etc. Defense-related employees who by law are protected from foreigners competing for their jobs. Yes, yes, very rarely some British sonar expert or jet engine genius gets a rare exemption that takes a year to clear with DoD/FBI background checks. But a drop in the bucket.

"Let Indians come from your Microsoft job, nevermind the way I'm protected by law from Indians working on the engines of Navy Ships I service at Newport News!"
64   Eric Holder   2024 Dec 30, 6:11pm  

Blue says


RWSGFY says


Easy in CA: start with 2 years in community college (essentially free if living with parents) and then transfer to one of the less prestigious UC or CSU schools (like UC Merced or Cal Poly Humboldt) where you'd pay less than $40K per year, room and board included.

Which year!
https://financialaid.ucmerced.edu/cost-attendance
Undergraduates who first enroll in Fall 2024
On-Campus, Off-Campus, At-Home
Food & Housing $21,446, $13,000, $8,020
Totals $43,954,$37,044,$32,322
Non-Residential Total $78,154,$71,244,$66,522
Actually it costs $27K/room for 3 room dorms as per a parent who sends his kid there!



If you are not CA resident UC system is a total rip-off.
65   RWSGFY   2024 Dec 30, 6:15pm  

HeadSet says

RWSGFY says


Easy in CA: start with 2 years in community college

Yes, doing 2 years in community college would cut down the bill somewhat. I am not a resident of CA so no free tuition and my kid does not qualify for any needs based grants. I did suggest a local CC until she figured out what she wanted, but she wanted the "away from home" experience and the wife agreed so viola, $120k for the four years.


Wants and needs...
66   RWSGFY   2024 Dec 30, 6:20pm  

Blue says

RWSGFY says



Easy in CA: start with 2 years in community college (essentially free if living with parents) and then transfer to one of the less prestigious UC or CSU schools (like UC Merced or Cal Poly Humboldt) where you'd pay less than $40K per year, room and board included.

Which year!
https://financialaid.ucmerced.edu/cost-attendance
Undergraduates who first enroll in Fall 2024
On-Campus, Off-Campus, At-Home
Food & Housing $21,446, $13,000, $8,020
Totals $43,954,$37,044,$32,322
Non-Residential Total $78,154,$71,244,$66,522
Actually it costs $27K/room for 3 room dorms as per a parent who sends his kid there!


So $43K, not $40K. You got me!

CalPoly Humboldt is ~$25K though, so waaay under $80K total if community college backdoor route is taken..
67   Blue   2024 Dec 30, 6:27pm  

Eric Holder says

If you are not CA resident UC system is a total rip-off.

I guess, its not just UCs but applies to most of the out of state schools as well. The sticker price is so expensive now for lot of folks.
68   HeadSet   2024 Dec 30, 6:28pm  

Blue says

its not just UCs but applies to most of the out of state schools as well

Unless you are an illegal.

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