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Nobody's Buying the H1B bullshit anymore


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2024 Dec 25, 11:31pm   3,307 views  84 comments

by AmericanKulak   ➕follow (10)   ignore (3)  

Sorry Big Tech HR Girls and CEOs.

Nobody is buying the bullshit that lowering H1Bs will stop the next Werner von Braun or Einstein from being scooped up by the USA.

Everybody knows Raj probably doesn't have the 1-2 year nonname, fly-by-night Mumbai tech schoo degree. I suspect most couldn't pass a basic Linux Foundation or COMPTIA Core Test. You just want them because you don't have to pay them unemployment, work them 50-60 hours for 40, and that 40 at less than having the job done by an actual basic certified American (much less a CS degree from any university or college).

We have a visa for real world-class researchers, it's the O-1 Visa.

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74   AD   2025 Mar 20, 12:45pm  

This is related to work visas as Panama City Beach area (Bay County, Florida) has a lot of work visa employees in the hospitality and tourism industries.

A friend told me today there was a line out the door of job applicants for Auntie Ann's (pretzel shop) in Pier Park Panama City Beach.

Yet the local power brokers claim we need work visas since there is not enough of a local labor pool.

Just go to Employ Bay County page on Facebook to see how a lot of people cannot find work.
75   MolotovCocktail   2025 Apr 15, 11:00pm  

Hmmm....maybe I will go back into Tech again:

Big changes are underway for U.S. visas, quietly.

The age of cheap, temporary H-1B labor is ending.

The Trump administration isn’t just slowing new approvals.
It’s laying the groundwork to make visa sponsorship financially painful.

Under the H-1B Modernization Rule and USCIS’s new fee schedule, costs are rising.
And now, wage floor increases are back under review, targeting exactly how much employers must pay to keep a visa worker.

This isn’t about protecting workers.
It’s about shrinking demand without needing Congress.

These changes affect existing visa holders.
If your role is up for renewal, transfer, or amendment, your employer may soon face higher wage requirements or new documentation standards.

Promotions may be delayed.
Transfers could be reconsidered.
And companies are already rethinking whether H-1B staffing is worth the long-term cost.

They’re starting to prioritize workers they can keep permanently.
That means U.S. citizens.

If you're on a visa and in a cost-sensitive role, understand this clearly.
The pressure is already building.

Citations in comments.
Shout out to my checkers who caught a citation error. Thx.




https://x.com/niftyswell/status/1912256349653590029
76   Patrick   2025 Apr 20, 8:31pm  

It's nice, but not nearly enough. H-1B should be reserved for jobs paying half a million a year or more.
77   AmericanKulak   2025 Apr 21, 4:45am  

How does the Indian IT industry survive without giving Pakistanis and Bangladeshis H1Bs?

Clearly Modi must pass a law allowing at least 100k H1Bs into India to work in call centers, before India loses their competitiveness.

hahaha
78   Patrick   2025 Apr 21, 11:09am  

MolotovCocktail says

The age of cheap, temporary H-1B labor is ending.


Occurs to me that this could have a very positive effect on real estate in the Bay Area, meaning lower prices and lower rents.

Fewer H-1Bs means less competition for housing.
80   HeadSet   2025 May 8, 7:25pm  

MolotovCocktail says





Doubtful. I do not think selling Teslas in India is an issue. This sounds like a completely contrived hit piece.
81   Patrick   2025 May 8, 7:48pm  

I agree, sounds like EDS.
82   MolotovCocktail   2025 May 8, 7:55pm  

HeadSet says


Doubtful. I do not think selling Teslas in India is an issue. This sounds like a completely contrived hit piece.


India just negotiated the same thing with the UK and Indian government officials are boasting about doing the same with the US.

Indian H1B workers not subject to FICA is a godsend for corporate America and the final deathknell for remaining US tech workers.

We shall see, tho.

The ones that actually go home, maybe. But if they transition into Greencard status, they should be forced to pony up the FICA that wasn't paid while they were H1B. Because clearly they never went home.

And their employers should be forced to pony up retroactive the employer's half, too.

But we all know THAT won't even happen.
83   MolotovCocktail   2025 May 8, 8:10pm  

Grok on this:


H1B Workers and FICA Taxes (Relation to US-India Context)
The UK-India FTA’s Double Contribution Convention is relevant to your query about H1B workers and FICA taxes, as it mirrors India’s push for social security totalization agreements. However, the UK deal does not directly involve H1B workers or FICA taxes, which are US-specific. Here’s how it connects:

UK NICs vs. US FICA: The UK’s NIC exemption for Indian workers is analogous to a potential US-India totalization agreement that would exempt Indian H1B workers from FICA taxes (7.65% for Social Security and Medicare). India has sought such an agreement with the US to reduce costs for its IT firms, but no deal exists.

US-India Trade Deal Status: No finalized US-India trade deal addresses H1B workers or FICA exemptions. Discussions have been speculative, with posts on X suggesting India seeks FICA exemptions to save $4 billion for its firms, but these lack official confirmation.

UK Precedent: The UK-India deal’s social security provision could serve as a model for US negotiations, allowing Indian H1B workers to pay into India’s social security system instead of FICA, avoiding double contributions. However, US political resistance (e.g., concerns about cheaper foreign labor) makes this unlikely without broader trade concessions.
84   AmericanKulak   2025 May 8, 8:18pm  

MolotovCocktail says

UK Precedent: The UK-India deal’s social security provision could serve as a model for US negotiations, allowing Indian H1B workers to pay into India’s social security system instead of FICA, avoiding double contributions. However, US political resistance (e.g., concerns about cheaper foreign labor) makes this unlikely without broader trade concessions.

Holy shit!

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