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2024 Dec 30, 7:29pm   4,832 views  197 comments

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https://www.amren.com/features/2024/12/india-its-worse-than-you-think/


India: It’s Worse Than You Think

Most Westerners know nothing about India beyond vague ideas about Hinduism, yoga, gurus, and maybe a dash of Bollywood. To such people, this article will be a rude awakening. ...

I had first returned to India with the idea of improving it, but after 11 years, I realized that India was a sinking ship, with worsening and increasingly shameless corruption, degraded people, and a society that was falling apart. I had never met an honest bureaucrat or politician. I applied to emigrate to Canada and my application was approved in a record three weeks.

I now advise East Asian and Western corporations on investing in India. Most of what I tell them sounds to them exaggerated, unrealistic, and unbelievable. After much dance, drama, and a great deal of lost money, they begin to believe what I tell them. However, this learning is never institutionalized because of a refusal to understand India. This is a form of political correctness, a poison eating away the innards of Western values.

When I was a child growing up in India, I learned that “might makes right.” Power was often abused, with those in control acting as if they had a God-given right to exploit and dominate others. The display of authority could be so extreme that questioning it or expecting those in power to do their duty might lead to retribution. Those in authority seemed to believe that their positions were not for serving others but for personal gain.

People who showed respect appeared to have meekly accepted a lower, subservient position. Kind people had to hide their compassion, for being nice was seen as a weakness.

In India, I have rarely seen someone in authority take the initiative to solve a problem he was responsible for. When I was at university, an underaged boy who worked in the kitchen was raped and sodomized by the janitors. I reported the matter, but not only did no one in authority do what was right — something well within their power — the authorities and fellow students threatened me with severe consequences if I pursued the matter further. Devoid of empathy, they also made fun of the boy and me.

Yes, there is an element of sadism here. There is some degree of pleasure that Indians take in the pain suffered by others. The attitude of the authorities was like that of the high-placed Delhi bureaucrat who told me that his Black Label whiskey tastes so much better because he knows that most Indians can’t afford to drink it.

This confuses Westerners. If they had power, even if they were corrupt, in a situation where there was nothing to gain or lose — no bribes to receive since both parties were poor, and no risk of offending someone well-connected — they would do the right thing and book the alleged rapist. These Indians would do nothing, not even lift a finger, unless there was a reward: money or sex. Their apathy was bottomless.


The article goes on about how incredibly low-trust India is as a society.

True? Any people from India want to opine on this?

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120   KgK one   2025 Feb 22, 11:48am  

Booger says






They bulk all asians into one. They found 90% of 250k rapes were by Pakistanis.

Because Hitler genocided 6 million jews , or British genocided all native americans in North America n australia. Should world say all western people are genocidal ?
122   Patrick   2025 Feb 22, 5:28pm  

KgK one says


British genocided all native americans in North America n australia


That's not true. First of all, they're obviously not all dead. Second, the mass deaths that did occur were from diseases. Those diseases were not deliberately transmitted. The "smallpox blanket" hoax is just that, a hoax:

https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_blankets_hoax
123   Patrick   2025 Feb 22, 5:41pm  

@"KgK one"

I agree that it's pointlessly offensive for others to go on about Hindus and soap. It's just an insult with no point other than to make people angry. Maybe all those insults should go in the "Political Incorrectness Day" thread?
125   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Feb 25, 7:23am  

Patrick says

The "smallpox blanket" hoax


That and so many people still believe in the noble savage myth. They were quite warlike and brutal to each other.
126   Patrick   2025 Feb 25, 8:13am  

Right, I read "Cannibals and Kings" by Marvin Harris in college. It documents a lot of the horrific things American Indians routinely did to each other, like skinning prisoners alive.
127   KgK one   2025 Feb 26, 9:19am  

No doubt natives had war, crulty n lot of killing like rest of the world. Somehow manage to live n grow for centuries. Many factors may have impacted their decrease. Infection diseases may be one but small one. these guys lived outdoors, somewhat far apart, with sun, n fresh air. Colonies were even far apart. N also doesn't take 150 years for infection to spread. War, getting kicked out of familiar land, lack of food... others may have impacted.




https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8ay38ByAqj/?igsh=Z3V0azhzYzIzMHMw

https://youtu.be/36hh__MNJus?si=r7H7K2AtR1qKSnx4
129   Ceffer   2025 Feb 26, 11:14am  

Patrick says


Right, I read "Cannibals and Kings" by Marvin Harris in college. It documents a lot of the horrific things American Indians routinely did to each other, like skinning prisoners alive.

It's a situation that still exists in the Middle East (Syria) that was the curse of Lawrence of Arabia to unification (Hegelian Dialectic Heaven?). The tribes all had their own Hatfield and McCoy grudge matches, religious variations and traditional hatreds against each other that wouldn't die.

The American Indians were both repressed and empowered by the Euros. They got amenities, horses and weapons, but they were less tuned to the actual alien threat than they were to perceived advantages against their traditional tribal enemies in a kind of ethnic tunnel vision.

Diaries of Old West showed the greatest hazard to white settlers were injuries and diseases, climate, other white settlers and gun accidents, wild animals, and Indians in that general order.

Indians conquering and fighting with other Indians were ineffably cruel. Descriptions were given of tying conquered enemies to trees, letting bowels hang out, blinding and castrating, then leaving the still living enemies for animal predation.

Mexican troops in California would tie alien soldiers to trees and attach hooks and ropes to their lower jaws and then have horses tear the jaw off.

The difference between today and what could be garnered from the times (fake history or real?) is that the numbers of people involved were very small compared to modern populations, usually in the tens, hundreds or at most few thousands.
130   Patrick   2025 Feb 26, 11:26am  

Ceffer says


The American Indians were both repressed and empowered by the Euros. They got amenities, horses and weapons, but they were less tuned to the actual alien threat than they were to perceived advantages against their traditional tribal enemies in a kind of ethnic tunnel vision.


I read that the first English (well, Anglo-Normans) in Ireland were actually invited in by some Irish chieftain as a military ally to be used against his Irish enemies. Ireland was just a collection of warring clans at the time.

Huge mistake. The guy put his self-interest above long-term thinking. Then the whole island was lost to the English and still has not been entirely recovered by the Irish.
131   Patrick   2025 Feb 26, 11:32am  

KgK one says

Infection diseases may be one but small one. these guys lived outdoors, somewhat far apart, with sun, n fresh air.


In Ireland, the Black Death was only in the cities, which were entirely English. The Irish were not affected because they all lived in the countryside where there were very few rats.
132   Patrick   2025 Feb 26, 11:34am  

KgK one says

War, getting kicked out of familiar land, lack of food...


Yes, forced deportations killed a lot of American Indians.

A lot of the Armenians died from being forced marched into deserts too. The Turks didn't even have to kill most of them with guns.
134   KgK one   2025 Feb 28, 12:19pm  

India is not even in top 25 compared to some nations.
Rape anywhere is bad should be investigated n punished. India has very strick laws even compared to us. Recently many girls are going on dates n calling it rape to extort money from men. They caught many girls like that. So if actual rape, punish them after investigation.

For amount of poverty n Islam, this low rate is amazing. In islam it's OK to rape nonbelievers. They caught muslim men getting paid 10k to groom n convert hindu, sikh, buddist minorities.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

137   indc   2025 Mar 1, 7:15pm  

Booger says






People who share screenshots instead of actual news should be called b-word.

https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/fyi/story/father-rapes-his-16-year-old-lesbian-daughter-to-prove-sex-was-better-with-men-964141-2017-03-06

This mostly happened in UK. I didn't bother to check the court location.
139   Fortwaye   2025 Mar 2, 3:14pm  

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says






it worked, she’s no longer depressed
140   KgK one   2025 Mar 3, 8:19am  

If you are concerned about 1 depressed Karen who probably put her nose where it doest belong n got killed, check out what's happening in uk. Shit load of uk and pakistani men raped 250,000 women. Reason they won't go after pakistanis is because lot of white men n politicians were part of these.

Western media only shows what's bad in other countries, amount of epstein /weinstines.. runnridiculous. In usa is ridiculous.

Top raping countries, n top homicide countries. Statistically u are safer other places.




141   indc   2025 Mar 3, 8:43am  

https://www.news18.com/viral/florida-patient-assaults-indian-origin-nurse-breaks-essentially-every-bone-in-her-face-aa-9247731.html

White racist bastard attacked a nurse in Florida. Just because she was Indian.

And this happened few days back. And patnet talks shit about India.
142   WookieMan   2025 Mar 3, 11:50am  

Patrick says

That's not true. First of all, they're obviously not all dead. Second, the mass deaths that did occur were from diseases. Those diseases were not deliberately transmitted. The "smallpox blanket" hoax is just that, a hoax:

Or that slavery in the US was some grotesque thing. Hey, I'm gonna buy this thing and beat the shit out of it? Makes total sense. We hear about the 1% that were ass hole plantation owners and Hollywood glorifies it through film.

Fact is they got food and housing for some long hours of work. Quentin Tarantino fucked the image of slavery up the worst with Django Unchained. And Roots or whatever miniseries that was. I'd bet a lot of blacks would like to go back to those days if they're honest. Fed, housed, clothed, medical, etc. Hell I wouldn't mind being a slave.
143   Patrick   2025 Mar 3, 3:37pm  

WookieMan says


Or that slavery in the US was some grotesque thing.


Or that slavery was even an unusual thing. Every culture on earth had slavery, with no exceptions, until white people ended slavery globally in all of their colonies.

Rumors are that it continues today in the really wacko Muslim countries though, like in Saudi Arabia, where slavery was made illegal only in the 1960's. Muslim clerics keep insisting even now that slavery is allowed by Muslim law, and that Muslim law supercedes all secular law.
144   KgK one   2025 Mar 5, 12:01pm  






This marvel was almost destroyed by Muslims they managed to deface most of the carvings.

https://youtu.be/DYrHQfft07M?si=B_R1RglBj3pJR1zt

Lot of these places have amazing symmery n tech 1000s of yrs ago.
145   stereotomy   2025 Mar 5, 5:44pm  

TechBrosWon says


Treasonous Hindus belong to India not 🇺🇸.
In India 🇺🇸 citizens will be attacked for eating beef, staple food here.

My nextdoor neighbor is from India - she converted to Christianity. She says it's true - Hindus will beat you up if they know you eat beef. They worship the cow/bull. People in Hindu areas who want beef have to go to certain places and enter back rooms to buy beef.

She was probably lower-caste (I don't ask but I have seen "The Bandit Queen" movie) but is a highly intelligent woman - Christianity offered her a way out.
146   Patrick   2025 Mar 5, 6:01pm  

Thanks, I'm interested in "The Bandit Queen" movie now.
147   stereotomy   2025 Mar 5, 6:17pm  

It might be out of print on Blu Ray, but you might be able to find a used copy somewhere. Warning - it's pretty violent, not explicitly sexually graphic, but you know exactly what's being done to her. I'll leave it at that.
148   Patrick   2025 Mar 5, 9:11pm  

I just found it free online and watched it, skipping some bits:

https://moviesjoy.skin/moviesjoy-movie/bandit-queen-CFUmXq

It's very well done. The bandits are similar to a guerrilla army. All such groups probably arise in similar circumstances.

Are women really treated that badly in India?

The caste system really sucks. I can see how people would want to leave it by becoming Christian or Muslim.
149   KgK one   2025 Mar 6, 8:05am  

Muslims will kill you if you mix pork in 44 countries.

There were 650 million people at kumbh mela festival , all casts, sikhs, women. Anyone can study any topic n do any job. They have 50% quota for lower cast so they get in colleges n jobs at much lower test scores. Financially it's gotten better to be lower cast. What's bad is lot of upper cast has to leave country to get access to colleges. So most of politician n ceos are upper cast people who are creating value in usa instead of India.

Cast used to just job type. It was enhanced by British to divide n conquer. Usually anyone who is paid less or lower cast are easy to manipulate into fighting agaist people in power. What's odd is even Christians/ sikh in india who are upper cast converts don't allow lower cast people in.

Us has cast system , rich - kings, prists are politicians, businessmen , n worker bees white n blue collar.

Hinduism thinks it's designed for good of all people so it doesn't convert , no real benefit to convert. While Islam n others specifically fight for their own. They also get 72 virgins n Crown etc to convert.
150   stereotomy   2025 Mar 6, 9:45am  

Patrick says

I just found it free online and watched it, skipping some bits:

https://moviesjoy.skin/moviesjoy-movie/bandit-queen-CFUmXq

It's very well done. The bandits are similar to a guerrilla army. All such groups probably arise in similar circumstances.

Are women really treated that badly in India?

The caste system really sucks. I can see how people would want to leave it by becoming Christian or Muslim.

The lower the caste, the greater the abuse. It greatly varies depending on caste. I'm not familiar enough with the culture to know more than that.

India has a very dangerous sex disparity between men and women. In some rural regions it's like 60/40 men/women. Sex selective abortion is nominally illegal in India, but is practiced widely. In the poorer regions, it's done the old fashioned way - infanticide. The end result is too many men and too few women, and the violent sexual powder keg that creates.
151   rocketjoe79   2025 Mar 6, 9:46am  

Methinks we have been invaded in the above post by an AI that thinks poor grammar is clever.
152   stereotomy   2025 Mar 6, 9:52am  

rocketjoe79 says

Methinks we have been invaded in the above post by an AI that thinks poor grammar is clever.

PatNet is definitely attracting attention. Hopefully @Patrick is as diligent against "AI" scrapers as the dumber google variety.

If things are secure, that means that the globohomo blob has to devote live chindian drones to muck things up.
153   indc   2025 Mar 8, 11:21am  

https://youtu.be/3k4iAJsJACg?si=465crOhgEPqskNKl

Explains how immigrants try to adjust in America.

This explains why Indians hire Indians in tech sector too.
154   indc   2025 Mar 8, 11:32am  

It is always funny when white people talk about caste system.

Some indian guy told me he had to hide in a car while travelling through some southern states in 80s. Do i call all white people are racist.

Even now an indian kid i know who lives in NC said white kids don't even acknowledge him. The only friendly kids are black kids.
155   indc   2025 Mar 8, 11:34am  

The caste system in Hindus is class system. Which is prevelant all over the world.

One can see this class system in US too.

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