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2024 Dec 30, 7:29pm   21,732 views  628 comments

by Patrick   follow (60)  

https://www.amren.com/features/2024/12/india-its-worse-than-you-think/


India: It’s Worse Than You Think

Most Westerners know nothing about India beyond vague ideas about Hinduism, yoga, gurus, and maybe a dash of Bollywood. To such people, this article will be a rude awakening. ...

I had first returned to India with the idea of improving it, but after 11 years, I realized that India was a sinking ship, with worsening and increasingly shameless corruption, degraded people, and a society that was falling apart. I had never met an honest bureaucrat or politician. I applied to emigrate to Canada and my application was approved in a record three weeks.

I now advise East Asian and Western corporations on investing in India. Most of what I tell them sounds to them exaggerated, unrealistic, and unbelievable. After much dance, drama, and a great deal of lost money, they begin to believe what I tell them. However, this learning is never institutionalized because of a refusal to understand India. This is a form of political correctness, a poison eating away the innards of Western values.

When I was a child growing up in India, I learned that “might makes right.” Power was often abused, with those in control acting as if they had a God-given right to exploit and dominate others. The display of authority could be so extreme that questioning it or expecting those in power to do their duty might lead to retribution. Those in authority seemed to believe that their positions were not for serving others but for personal gain.

People who showed respect appeared to have meekly accepted a lower, subservient position. Kind people had to hide their compassion, for being nice was seen as a weakness.

In India, I have rarely seen someone in authority take the initiative to solve a problem he was responsible for. When I was at university, an underaged boy who worked in the kitchen was raped and sodomized by the janitors. I reported the matter, but not only did no one in authority do what was right — something well within their power — the authorities and fellow students threatened me with severe consequences if I pursued the matter further. Devoid of empathy, they also made fun of the boy and me.

Yes, there is an element of sadism here. There is some degree of pleasure that Indians take in the pain suffered by others. The attitude of the authorities was like that of the high-placed Delhi bureaucrat who told me that his Black Label whiskey tastes so much better because he knows that most Indians can’t afford to drink it.

This confuses Westerners. If they had power, even if they were corrupt, in a situation where there was nothing to gain or lose — no bribes to receive since both parties were poor, and no risk of offending someone well-connected — they would do the right thing and book the alleged rapist. These Indians would do nothing, not even lift a finger, unless there was a reward: money or sex. Their apathy was bottomless.


The article goes on about how incredibly low-trust India is as a society.

True? Any people from India want to opine on this?

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377   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 23, 11:12pm  

I'm a little suspicious of Stew Peter. I think it's all an act, just look at the name.
378   KgK one   2025 Sep 24, 8:12am  

MolotovCocktail says

KgK one says


you lost jobs to indian is not logical reason to hate all indians. Ask yourself who made that decision n why. It's corporation which owned by stock owners who wants more return.


What some
corporation does or doesn't do has nothing to do with how I feel about this.

The rest of what you wrote is just Bharat! Bharat! Jeet bullshit.

Oh. And learn to properly quote here, Mr. H1B.

KgK one says


My suggestion is that you move to india


This shit hole?




What area do you live in fullmouthcocktail? No doubt there are shit areas in india but same in usa. Go to skidrow and homeless area in la, philly, .ny, ...

Go to better areas in india. Go steal their jobs :)
https://www.instagram.com/share/reel/BAOJ3doa6L

India has monsoon equivalent to Florida or Georgia flooding. Some roads gets washed away every year.

Each state is different. You can move to north west near desert no rain . Or north east, highest amount of rain.

In global economy, corporates will look for cheapest solution. No one is safe. Even Indians complain when Mexican or bangladesho takes their job. India is also struggling with illegal immegrants. They got 30 million from shitty muslim countries like Bangladesh.


379   MolotovCocktail   2025 Sep 24, 9:26am  

KgK one says

No doubt there are shit areas in india but same in usa. Go to skidrow and homeless area in la, philly, .ny, ..


Cut the crap. India is internationally recognized as a world class shit hole. There is nothing like it in the US. I don't even think there is in Mexico anymore.

You know it, too.
381   KgK one   2025 Sep 24, 10:59am  

AI is about to take out lot of jobs, its not going to be rough all over the world. MolotovCocktail says

KgK one says


No doubt there are shit areas in india but same in usa. Go to skidrow and homeless area in la, philly, .ny, ..


Cut the crap. India is internationally recognized as a world class shit hole. There is nothing like it in the US. I don't even think there is in Mexico anymore.

You know it, too.

You still haven't told us where so you live? I can show you where to look. I have gone thru philly kensington Ave and it's true shithole. You can watch videos on YouTube also. In LA go thru skid row.

Hitler can hate all non blond n blue eye , British can kill all the Irish n Scottish, blacks kill shit load of other blacks. But now it's going to be AI vs people, Ai is going to take out lot of jobs.
382   MolotovCocktail   2025 Sep 24, 11:49am  

KgK one says

AI is about to take out lot of jobs,


And India will still be a shit hole.
384   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Sep 24, 9:43pm  

If India were a Republican form of govt and not a Democracy?
385   MolotovCocktail   2025 Sep 25, 5:42pm  

As per below, the shitholes that are India's cities could become like this...better and faster than the Chinese did.

Yes, but then Indian politicians won't be able to blame India's problems they caused on the British...or Americans (some Jeet argued with me the other day on X that America was responsible for splitting up India in 1948, not the British. I swear.)..or the Pakis...or whatever.

And KgK one won't have to deny his shame of his own shithole country via denial of reality trolling crap here, either.

It's all so simple, really.


386   KgK one   2025 Sep 26, 8:54am  

Plenty of nice places in india. Yes agree that British colonism brought indias gdp from 30% to mere 2 %. They starved 100 million by shipping food for their own wars with France n Germany.
For a developing country it's doing amazing. China is dictatorship , so things can happen lot faster. It is biggest democracy in the world, if usa loved democracy then it should support it, but it funds dictator everywhere.

Kota rj https://youtu.be/uVAwKPcXs40

Ahemdabad gj https://www.instagram.com/share/reel/BAAvlNYLQh
Chandigar https://youtu.be/RUaZiZKD8nQ

Lot of nice places , minicocktail , you only search for shitty places, then you will find them everywhere.
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Wait till u learn what Europeans did n their stench.
https://youtube.com/shorts/15DjTrBaQaQ?si=pg_cmk5Qd-xv8CGb

French history
https://medium.com/@imran.haidree/the-smelly-history-of-french-royals-filth-feces-and-fragrance-navigating-the-smelly-streets-6bec914401e1

https://nstperfume.com/2010/07/23/the-great-stink-of-paris-and-the-nineteenth-century-struggle-against-filth-and-germs-by-david-s-barnes-perfume-books/
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIoXgOgMkdC/?igsh=MTZ0eDlhZzZ2ZTh5Yg%3D%3D
387   MolotovCocktail   2025 Sep 26, 9:07am  

KgK one says

agree that British colonism brought indias gdp from 30% to mere 2 %


No. Indians did/still do that. Brits left 80 years ago.
388   WookieMan   2025 Sep 26, 9:56am  

KgK one says

Plenty of nice places in india.

Do you live there currently in India? You're talking about a few streets in major cities in the US being bad. The US is 3x's as large and has 1/3rd the population. You pack 1B people into a small place for the most part and it will be a shit hole. It's okay to admit it.

You're trying to defend things that are indefensible. Yes the US has a few problem spots in certain cities. Maybe 30 legit cities. India probably has 500 shit holes at least and it's the entire city. Not just a pocket.

A neighboring town in my area has an Indian run gas station. The owner lives there. The place smell like shit, like human feces. I swear they are pooping in buckets or something. It was run by whites 20 years ago and smelled just fine.
389   KgK one   2025 Sep 26, 10:31am  

Agree you cant compare emerging country to usa. Lot of shitty areas in india obviously, point is there are many pockets of nice areas also.

As for gas stations, usa has some really nice ones and many private shitty ones. Dont care who owns it asian, indian, latino or white all stink. Prefer using those big corporate places usually are much cleaner.

Guessing that small private gas station is low profit, n lot of work that no one local wanted to operate. Gas stations by itself are very low profit, their store sales make up the difference.
390   stereotomy   2025 Sep 26, 11:00am  

When I'm traveling, I always seek motels that are not owned/operated by Indians, for the simple reason that Indian-run locations are more often than not unhygienic. This is because the Brahmins and other upper caste Indians consider it beneath themselves to have concerns about keeping the bathrooms clean or fumigating for bedbugs. This is probably why most Indians shit in the woods - it's too disgusting to wipe your own ass.

I see this all the time at work - men who won't touch their cocks to direct the spray so they piss all over the floor instead, figuring Dalits will take care of it.

I predict I will get my second ignore from this by you know who.
391   zzyzzx   2025 Sep 26, 11:57am  

stereotomy says

I always seek motels that are not owned/operated by Indians


How do I make sure?
392   stereotomy   2025 Sep 26, 12:04pm  

zzyzzx says

stereotomy says


I always seek motels that are not owned/operated by Indians


How do I make sure?

Who's at the front desk? These are mostly family operated.
393   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 26, 12:51pm  

WookieMan says


A neighboring town in my area has an Indian run gas station. The owner lives there. The place smell like shit, like human feces. I swear they are pooping in buckets or something. It was run by whites 20 years ago and smelled just fine.

My big beef is that "Investor Visas" should NOT be available for buying existing businesses, at least service businesses.

The motel/gas station existed and mostly would continue to exist without the "Investor Visa".

Not only does not create NEW jobs, it actually destroys jobs since the new foreign owners bring their family to run it, only keeping a handful of housekeepers.
394   MolotovCocktail   2025 Sep 26, 6:56pm  

KgK one says

Agree you cant compare emerging country to usa.


India has been around since before Alexander the Great. It isn't an 'emerging country".
398   KgK one   2025 Sep 28, 7:51pm  

MolotovCocktail says

KgK one says


Agree you cant compare emerging country to usa.


India has been around since before Alexander the Great. It isn't an 'emerging country".


Yes india existed long before Alexander. Alexander reached current day pakistan. India was top 3 powers thru out history except after British. British came to india in indian built ships, even some Indians funded first trading company east india company but got betrayed. After British economy went from 30% to 2 % . British also starved 100 million by taking food for its war. Even after independence it installed it's puppet government.

Britain was largest but it has lost it powers, so nothing is permanent. Time equalizer it all.
400   MolotovCocktail   2025 Sep 28, 10:28pm  

KgK one says

British came to india in indian built ships, even some Indians funded first trading company east india company but got betrayed. After British economy went from 30% to 2 % . British also starved 100 million by taking food for its war. Even after independence it installed it's puppet government.


Brits left about 80 years ago.
401   Blue   2025 Sep 29, 12:43am  

MolotovCocktail says


KgK one says



Brits left about 80 years ago.

Yes in litter sense.
They still shoot movies and documentaries on their pedophile agent
Muhammad Akmal Gandhi (Marketed as the Mahatma Gandhi 😜) with their fake narratives to remind next generation of slaves.
Wealthy clients still run from London banking system.
Bulleywood is still run from London through underworld. London is safe heaven for so many high profile both soft and hard criminals to hide with ill gotten money.
All the fake media and left leaning politicians are controlled from the west. The list goes on.
Like any other country, India has its own problems to solve but west is making some of the things more challenging.
402   Eric Holder   2025 Sep 29, 4:52pm  

Indian navy once submerged their nuclear sub with one hatch still open. True story.
403   HeadSet   2025 Sep 29, 5:14pm  

Eric Holder says

Indian navy once submerged their nuclear sub with one hatch still open. True story.

Maybe they needed to wash the poop out.
404   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 29, 5:56pm  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says


My big beef is that "Investor Visas" should NOT be available for buying existing businesses, at least service businesses.

The motel/gas station existed and mostly would continue to exist without the "Investor Visa".

Not only does not create NEW jobs, it actually destroys jobs since the new foreign owners bring their family to run it, only keeping a handful of housekeepers.

Imagine giving tax-benefits to foreigners that citizens don't get to buy existing service businesses in a highly capitalized and populated area.

The US has NO shortage of investment looking to make loans and NO shortage of gas stations, motels, etc. The US is overcapitalized if anything.

Nobody who puts America First could have disliked this sentiment. Only a foreigner wanting to follow in the steps of stupid laws their fellows took advantage of.

Furthermore, at the very least, "Investor Visas" should be non-renewable or transferable. If a BP went to one investor visa holder, it should not be able to be legally sold to another visa holder/applicant (with the tax benefit then being renewed, which is how foreigners built wealth, by legal tax evasion - transfer from Uncle Ramit to Cousin Sanjay, same family owns but the tax benefit renews for another multiyear period. Not even the craftiest econo-bullshitartist could justify that as good or necessary)
407   gabbar   2025 Sep 30, 4:27pm  

Let's remember that before Elon Musk purchased Twitter, it was run by Indians...fook them.
408   Eric Holder   2025 Sep 30, 5:26pm  

gabbar says

Let's remember that before Elon Musk purchased Twitter, it was run by Indians...fook them.


It's still infested with Indian bots.
409   Blue   2025 Sep 30, 5:36pm  

gabbar says

Let's remember that before Elon Musk purchased Twitter, it was run by Indians...fook them.

Hope you meant that commie woman Vijaya Gadde of her role in Twitter's past content moderation decisions.
Agreed with your comment and but not everyone.
410   Patrick   2025 Sep 30, 5:47pm  

Eric Holder says

gabbar says


Let's remember that before Elon Musk purchased Twitter, it was run by Indians...fook them.


It's still infested with Indian bots.


That's true, sadly.

Every time I look at X, there are a few new "Elons" who are following me. They all claim to be Elon.
411   gabbar   2025 Oct 1, 4:54am  

Blue says

Agreed with your comment and but not everyone.

Indian CEO was up Biden's administration's rectum.
412   Blue   2025 Oct 1, 8:03am  

https://www.tbsnews.net/world/south-asia/indian-court-orders-doctors-write-legible-prescriptions-citing-patient-safety#
Not sure how many other countries use handwritten prescriptions but at least in India most small private practices write in some kind of code that no one can read other than the intended pharmacist who can give kickbacks.
413   Patrick   2025 Oct 1, 8:32am  

Wow, that's pretty corrupt.

So the doctor forces the patient to go to a pharmacy that will pay a kickback to the doctor, raising the price for the patient.
414   Blue   2025 Oct 1, 12:03pm  

Patrick says

Wow, that's pretty corrupt.

So the doctor forces the patient to go to a pharmacy that will pay a kickback to the doctor, raising the price for the patient.

You bet, oftentimes that pharmacy store run by family or extended family member in my personal observation.
Even worse, I remember seeing doctors prescribing truck loads of unnecessary medication 💊 for no other than making money off the poor patents.
These are criminals in white coats.

I heard that things became much worse after corporations became popular.
415   Patrick   2025 Oct 1, 12:14pm  

The US also has the same problem with doctors prescribing highly profitable but unnecessary medication.

The kickbacks are more hidden here though, via Pfizer funding the FDA, and the rotating door between Pfizer and the FDA.

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