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2024 Dec 30, 7:29pm   21,575 views  628 comments

by Patrick   follow (60)  

https://www.amren.com/features/2024/12/india-its-worse-than-you-think/


India: It’s Worse Than You Think

Most Westerners know nothing about India beyond vague ideas about Hinduism, yoga, gurus, and maybe a dash of Bollywood. To such people, this article will be a rude awakening. ...

I had first returned to India with the idea of improving it, but after 11 years, I realized that India was a sinking ship, with worsening and increasingly shameless corruption, degraded people, and a society that was falling apart. I had never met an honest bureaucrat or politician. I applied to emigrate to Canada and my application was approved in a record three weeks.

I now advise East Asian and Western corporations on investing in India. Most of what I tell them sounds to them exaggerated, unrealistic, and unbelievable. After much dance, drama, and a great deal of lost money, they begin to believe what I tell them. However, this learning is never institutionalized because of a refusal to understand India. This is a form of political correctness, a poison eating away the innards of Western values.

When I was a child growing up in India, I learned that “might makes right.” Power was often abused, with those in control acting as if they had a God-given right to exploit and dominate others. The display of authority could be so extreme that questioning it or expecting those in power to do their duty might lead to retribution. Those in authority seemed to believe that their positions were not for serving others but for personal gain.

People who showed respect appeared to have meekly accepted a lower, subservient position. Kind people had to hide their compassion, for being nice was seen as a weakness.

In India, I have rarely seen someone in authority take the initiative to solve a problem he was responsible for. When I was at university, an underaged boy who worked in the kitchen was raped and sodomized by the janitors. I reported the matter, but not only did no one in authority do what was right — something well within their power — the authorities and fellow students threatened me with severe consequences if I pursued the matter further. Devoid of empathy, they also made fun of the boy and me.

Yes, there is an element of sadism here. There is some degree of pleasure that Indians take in the pain suffered by others. The attitude of the authorities was like that of the high-placed Delhi bureaucrat who told me that his Black Label whiskey tastes so much better because he knows that most Indians can’t afford to drink it.

This confuses Westerners. If they had power, even if they were corrupt, in a situation where there was nothing to gain or lose — no bribes to receive since both parties were poor, and no risk of offending someone well-connected — they would do the right thing and book the alleged rapist. These Indians would do nothing, not even lift a finger, unless there was a reward: money or sex. Their apathy was bottomless.


The article goes on about how incredibly low-trust India is as a society.

True? Any people from India want to opine on this?

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491   MolotovCocktail   2025 Oct 14, 9:28am  

77 year old British sabotage of Indian streets:

492   MolotovCocktail   2025 Oct 14, 1:26pm  

Brits trash India's most holy river! Those damn Brits!

493   Patrick   2025 Oct 14, 1:33pm  

I visited Egypt during my sophomore year in Europe, and have to say Egypt was like that too. Trash everywhere.
494   WookieMan   2025 Oct 14, 2:08pm  

Patrick says

I visited Egypt during my sophomore year in Europe, and have to say Egypt was like that too. Trash everywhere.

I think it's just normal for some of these countries. We make fun of Karen's which is the right thing to do, but this is where these countries need some Karen's.

The problem I have with India defenders is this isn't happening in some industrial area on a few blocks like it does in the US in some cities (skid row). It is just everywhere. Get the garbage out of that river in Molotovs comment. That looks like it could be a good float river on a warm day which it is most every day. Recreational activity will lead to cleaner things. I can hike in Montana where 1k people hike a trail a day. Not 1 piece of garbage/trash anywhere. It's not that hard.
497   Patrick   2025 Oct 15, 1:16pm  

Just found out about this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Legion


The Indian Legion was a military unit raised during the Second World War initially as part of the German Army and later the Waffen-SS from August 1944. Intended to serve as a liberation force for British-ruled India, it was made up of Indian prisoners of war and expatriates in Europe. ...

Indian independence leader Subhas Chandra Bose initiated the legion's formation, as part of his efforts to win India's independence by waging war against Britain, when he came to Berlin in 1941 seeking German aid. The initial recruits in 1941 were volunteers from the Indian students resident in Germany at the time, and a handful of the Indian prisoners of war who had been captured during the North African campaign. It later drew a larger number of Indian prisoners of war as volunteers.

Though it was initially raised as an assault group that would form a pathfinder to a German–Indian joint invasion of the western frontiers of British India, only a small contingent was ever put to its original intended purpose.




I understand wanting to help the enemy of one's enemy, but still, not a good look.
498   KgK one   2025 Oct 15, 1:21pm  






From 25,000 to 250 $ cost reduction
500   MolotovCocktail   2025 Oct 17, 1:43pm  

Why is this? I am genuinely curious.



501   stereotomy   2025 Oct 17, 1:49pm  

MolotovCocktail says

Why is this?





It's like the Spaniards in the Americas during the 16th century - any modern technology is invisible to people who function on paleolithic terms.
502   Patrick   2025 Oct 17, 2:05pm  

My great grandfather from Poland was killed by a train in Chicago in 1907, along with his oldest son. They were trying to cross ahead of a train in a horse and buggy.

I tried to find a newspaper article about it, but that kind of train accident happened pretty much every day at the time, since there were no crossing gates.
505   indc   2025 Oct 17, 10:26pm  

Some citizens in India are atleast asking govt to enforce the laws in food hygiene.

But Finland govt approved bread with bugs.

https://x.com/newstart_2024/status/1979221300406112288
506   KgK one   2025 Oct 18, 7:14am  

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/174uKtmzSr/

Didn't know Ireland was looted as well.
507   KgK one   2025 Oct 18, 7:58am  

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLcf4aavxOR/

Who is the real indian :)
America found by error, columbus looking for india. One trip profit would set you up for 3 generation.
508   MolotovCocktail   2025 Oct 18, 11:10am  

Patrick says

My great grandfather from Poland was killed by a train in Chicago in 1907, along with his oldest son. They were trying to cross ahead of a train in a horse and buggy.

I tried to find a newspaper article about it, but that kind of train accident happened pretty much every day at the time, since there were no crossing gates.


...yes, back in the days when America was a developing third world country.
510   stereotomy   2025 Oct 18, 1:39pm  

KgK one says

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/174uKtmzSr/

Didn't know Ireland was looted as well.

The English took what they learned from 500 years of raping Ireland and applied it to India. Famine was the favorite tool.
511   Patrick   2025 Oct 18, 2:09pm  

Ireland was exporting large quantities of food to England all during the famine, mostly beef.
512   stereotomy   2025 Oct 18, 3:50pm  

Patrick says


Ireland was exporting large quantities of food to England all during the famine, mostly beef.

When international outrage was at its peak, the English committed to a public works program to employ jobless Irish. Since it was against Mercantilist policy to improve a foreign country, the English instead paid Irish to rip up the roads in Ireland, further destroying the country.
513   Patrick   2025 Oct 18, 4:46pm  

There are still "famine roads" in Ireland which were pointed out to me. They don't go anywhere, but the English paid to have them built.

https://www.frrandp.com/2025/01/famine-roads.html


The Famine Roads of Ireland: Pathways to Nowhere

Across the rolling hills and rugged landscapes of western Ireland, one can find peculiar relics of a dark chapter in the island’s history. These are the Famine Roads - routes that climb into the hills, twist through valleys, and often end abruptly, leading nowhere. Their haunting presence is a testament to the desperation and suffering endured by countless Irish peasants during the Great Famine of 1845–1852.
516   MolotovCocktail   2025 Oct 20, 9:31am  

MolotovCocktail says


Patrick says


My great grandfather from Poland was killed by a train in Chicago in 1907, along with his oldest son. They were trying to cross ahead of a train in a horse and buggy.

I tried to find a newspaper article about it, but that kind of train accident happened pretty much every day at the time, since there were no crossing gates.


...yes, back in the days when America was a developing third world country.



Looks like the Brightline in Florida has its death toll. A lot are suicides like I witnessed at BART.


More than 180 people have met their end on Brightline tracks since 2017, making it the deadliest train in the country per million miles traveled. Even more disturbing is that most fatalities are arguably an idiosyncrasy of the state’s libertine, masochistic culture. Subsequent investigations have rarely found train conductors to be at fault, pointing instead to suicides as well as drivers attempting to beat trains at crossings. National Public Radio’s WRLN found that 41 percent of deaths since 2017 were suicides, though it neglected to provide a breakdown of the remaining fatalities. Much of the blame lies with both local and state governments, but Brightline itself has also been reluctant to spend resources on safety infrastructure due to its financial woes.


https://open.substack.com/pub/theliberalpatriot/p/limited-government-built-the-brightline
517   KgK one   2025 Oct 20, 5:03pm  

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQApxblgc8n/



British really had it for Irish, n other Europeans also :)

How can they tell Irish from British, did Irish have good teeth
518   stereotomy   2025 Oct 20, 5:14pm  

KgK one says

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQApxblgc8n/



British really had it for Irish, n other Europeans also :)

How can they tell Irish from British, did Irish have good teeth

Lots of sunlight, lots of Vitamin D, which is great for teeth.

There's a reason why most darker Caribbeans are good looking - it's all the Irish blood in them.
519   KgK one   2025 Oct 22, 6:33am  





Happy new year n diwali
524   Ceffer   2025 Oct 27, 3:07pm  

MolotovCocktail says

Patrick says

My great grandfather from Poland was killed by a train in Chicago in 1907, along with his oldest son. They were trying to cross ahead of a train in a horse and buggy.

My great grandfather (Irish) was killed by a horse taxi when crossing a road (New York State). He was 96 years old when it happened.
526   KgK one   2025 Oct 28, 7:52pm  

Guy knows what happens in that one location out of millions of towns. Yet choose to go there n particIpate, then complain about his experience as if he was unaware. 500 people out of 1,500,000,000 participate no need to bad mouth everyone.

Its like going to Florida eating frog, snake, n alligator purposely then saying all Americans eat that stuff .

Lol, I do agree these participants are crazy. Kinda disgusting. Even 20% of Americans who eat ass , might find it disgusting.

Wisconsin has something similar but doest make the news.
https://youtu.be/XK7-lO5MnLo
527   HeadSet   2025 Oct 29, 12:09pm  

KgK one says

Wisconsin has something similar

Tossing dry cowchips for distance is not the same as slathering each other with wet poop.
528   Blue   2025 Oct 30, 6:55am  

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/explained-why-four-us-congressmen-have-written-to-rutgers-over-a-hindutva-in-america-event/articleshow/124800104.cms

Diversity: Rutgers is a large public university with a diverse student population of many religions, ethnicities, and backgrounds. Approximately 5,000 of its 50,000 students on the New Brunswick campus are Muslim.

Ok, that is good enough number to kickstart Jihadist politics.
529   WookieMan   2025 Oct 30, 7:13am  

HeadSet says

KgK one says


Wisconsin has something similar

Tossing dry cowchips for distance is not the same as slathering each other with wet poop.

Bingo. It's different. If a finger slips when shitting out my own ass, it's an immediate shower. Not hand washing. And no I'm not a germaphobe. It's shit. I always try and force a shit out before a shower if I can.

KgK one says

Its like going to Florida eating frog, snake, n alligator purposely then saying all Americans eat that stuff .

Actually nothing wrong with that if cooked and seasoned properly. I'll try anything once and if I like it I would continue to eat it when available.

KgK one says

Guy knows what happens in that one location out of millions of towns. Yet choose to go there n particIpate, then complain about his experience as if he was unaware. 500 people out of 1,500,000,000 participate no need to bad mouth everyone.

No different than the KKK here and all white males are racist. The problem with your argument is that it's shit, literally. As far as I've read the KKK doesn't do anything to blacks anymore and the membership is nothing basically. Point is we evolved as a society. India has not except the wealthy class.

500 people smearing shit on each other is 1 too many. I don't care if there's a billion people. And the 500 is all you hear about, it could be 5M and it's not reported of shit smears. No way to track that with that population.

I don't post on this thread to shit on you, pun intended, but we're not just talking cities and a few blocks like in LA, SF, NYC, Chicago, NOLA, etc. We're talking entire regions that are shit holes. You may be lucky to be connected or know where to go, but the internet and reporting says something completely different. I don't trust media, but at some point if so much shit is thrown at you, you have to believe it.

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