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2024 Dec 30, 7:29pm   21,538 views  628 comments

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https://www.amren.com/features/2024/12/india-its-worse-than-you-think/


India: It’s Worse Than You Think

Most Westerners know nothing about India beyond vague ideas about Hinduism, yoga, gurus, and maybe a dash of Bollywood. To such people, this article will be a rude awakening. ...

I had first returned to India with the idea of improving it, but after 11 years, I realized that India was a sinking ship, with worsening and increasingly shameless corruption, degraded people, and a society that was falling apart. I had never met an honest bureaucrat or politician. I applied to emigrate to Canada and my application was approved in a record three weeks.

I now advise East Asian and Western corporations on investing in India. Most of what I tell them sounds to them exaggerated, unrealistic, and unbelievable. After much dance, drama, and a great deal of lost money, they begin to believe what I tell them. However, this learning is never institutionalized because of a refusal to understand India. This is a form of political correctness, a poison eating away the innards of Western values.

When I was a child growing up in India, I learned that “might makes right.” Power was often abused, with those in control acting as if they had a God-given right to exploit and dominate others. The display of authority could be so extreme that questioning it or expecting those in power to do their duty might lead to retribution. Those in authority seemed to believe that their positions were not for serving others but for personal gain.

People who showed respect appeared to have meekly accepted a lower, subservient position. Kind people had to hide their compassion, for being nice was seen as a weakness.

In India, I have rarely seen someone in authority take the initiative to solve a problem he was responsible for. When I was at university, an underaged boy who worked in the kitchen was raped and sodomized by the janitors. I reported the matter, but not only did no one in authority do what was right — something well within their power — the authorities and fellow students threatened me with severe consequences if I pursued the matter further. Devoid of empathy, they also made fun of the boy and me.

Yes, there is an element of sadism here. There is some degree of pleasure that Indians take in the pain suffered by others. The attitude of the authorities was like that of the high-placed Delhi bureaucrat who told me that his Black Label whiskey tastes so much better because he knows that most Indians can’t afford to drink it.

This confuses Westerners. If they had power, even if they were corrupt, in a situation where there was nothing to gain or lose — no bribes to receive since both parties were poor, and no risk of offending someone well-connected — they would do the right thing and book the alleged rapist. These Indians would do nothing, not even lift a finger, unless there was a reward: money or sex. Their apathy was bottomless.


The article goes on about how incredibly low-trust India is as a society.

True? Any people from India want to opine on this?

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544   MolotovCocktail   2025 Nov 7, 5:27pm  

KgK one says

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKBBPPIzMwy/




Sorry.

But this is a thread about India. Not about Using The Brits As An Excuse For India Being A Shithole.
546   MolotovCocktail   2025 Nov 11, 3:44pm  

Booger says






British all at fault!

But least they had electricity.
547   KgK one   2025 Nov 12, 12:16pm  

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQ9G5Qbk14h/

https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/social-relevance/maharaja-jam-saheb-digvijaysinhji-and-world-war-ii-polish-refugees-story-549242.html

He ruled Nawanagar from 1933 to 1947 when Nawanagar was merged into the United State of Kathiawar, after which he held his title nominally. In the midst of World War II, Jadeja is personally credited for saving around a thousand Polish orphans between 1942 and 1946, following the Invasion of Poland.

Also no one was asked convert their religion.
549   Patrick   2025 Nov 16, 2:07pm  

Patrick says

But it's also true that Jews have a disproportionate involvement in financial crime, and blacks in violent crime. Obviously not all of either group, just provably disproportionate, and it's legitimate to ask exactly why that is.





Eliyahu "Eli" Weinstein, a convicted Ponzi schemer, was previously sentenced to 22 years in prison for a real estate investment fraud scheme that caused $200 million in losses, and later received an additional 24 months in prison for defrauding investors in connection with the Facebook IPO and Florida real estate deals, bringing his total sentence to 24 years.

His 24-year federal prison term was commuted by President Donald Trump in 2021, allowing his release.

After his release, Weinstein was convicted of a new fraud scheme in which he defrauded over 150 investors out of $41 million by falsely claiming their funds would be used to purchase Covid-19 masks, baby formula, and first-aid kits bound for Ukraine, when in fact the money was used for gambling, real estate, luxury watches, and to repay earlier investors.
On November 14, 2025, he was sentenced to an additional 37 years in prison for this new fraud.
552   KgK one   2025 Nov 16, 4:24pm  

Booger says





This is worlds highest selling biscuit/ cookie. You can see how its made. Racist people belive anything to make themselves feel better.
https://youtu.be/P9cWLC2r6cc?si=OSImZGIuhvoq6m8I

The world's highest-selling biscuit is Parle-G, an Indian brand manufactured by Parle Products. It has held this title since at least a 2011 Nielsen survey. Parle-G is sold in over 100 countries globally.

Yes sometimes there is shady manufacturing also just like all countries. Plenty of pink slime , GMO, cancer food dyes, used in US also.
555   Patrick   2025 Nov 17, 6:15pm  

Yes, but Indians also fought on the Nazi side.
556   MolotovCocktail   2025 Nov 17, 6:48pm  

Patrick says

Yes, but Indians also fought on the Nazi side.


Where do you think the swastika came from?
557   Patrick   2025 Nov 17, 7:49pm  

True, but doesn't the Nazi version go the other direction?
558   KgK one   2025 Nov 17, 8:00pm  

Swastika is defamed by nazis. Hitler swastic is different.

The swastika is a 3,000-12,000-year-old symbol in the form of an equilateral cross with four legs bent at 90 degrees. It served as a religious and good luck symbol for many different people. It was appropriated by the German and Austrian Nazis in the 1930s as a symbol of Aryan fascism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
Hitler was devout Christian also who killed 6 million jews n many others and he had eagles on his emblem. He was also allied with Japanese, brown Italians, and Africans. Cant stop people using symbols.

Gandhi promoted non violence but asked indians to fully support fight for England in return for freedom in ww1. Indian troops sent millions of troops in ww1 but Freedom never materialized.

After betrayal in ww1, during ww2 still about 2 million indian joined British. Some people decided to fight british in india after British stole food and starved 4 millions to death. People have right to fight their enslavers, robbers, forced converters.
559   indc   2025 Nov 17, 10:01pm  

I explained before let me explain again about nazi symbol.

Hitler called it Hakenkreuz. Which means hooked cross. It is a christian symbol.

But NYT editor in 1930's didn't want his religion to be maligned so he called it swastika.

White christian still continue the lie to this day because we know what they are -bastards.
560   MolotovCocktail   2025 Nov 17, 10:53pm  

The Nazis still got it from the Indians no matter how much bullshit you try to spin it with.
561   goofus   2025 Nov 17, 11:08pm  

indc says


I explained before let me explain again about nazi symbol.

Hitler called it Hakenkreuz. Which means hooked cross. It is a christian symbol.

But NYT editor in 1930's didn't want his religion to be maligned so he called it swastika.

White christian still continue the lie to this day because we know what they are -bastards.


That famous Christian editor, Arthur Sulzberger, defending the religion (he’s Jewish) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Hays_Sulzberger

Your symbol comes from the Vedic groups who were genetically “white.” The only group of ancient Sanskrit writers still able to be sequenced show as much: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarim_mummies
Speaking of “bastards,” the caste system reflects how much invader DNA you have.
562   MolotovCocktail   2025 Nov 17, 11:34pm  

MolotovCocktail says


The Nazis still got it from the Indians no matter how much bullshit you try to spin it with.


Again:

The Nazis still got it from the Indians no matter how much bullshit you try to spin it with.
563   zzyzzx   2025 Nov 18, 5:48am  

Patrick says

Yes, but Indians also fought on the Nazi side.

OK, so they did one good thing.
564   Patrick   2025 Nov 18, 10:39am  

indc says


White christian still continue the lie to this day because we know what they are -bastards.


I think pretty much the same thing happened in Europe as in India. The Indo-European invaders from what is now southern Russia moved in over centuries, setting themselves up as masters and taking local women as wives, ultimately completely displacing the previous languages, except in the case of Basque.

But hey, this means that most Europeans and a lot of Indians are cousins on the paternal side, and this is proven by genetics, because most of Europe and northern India are in the R1a or R1b haplogroups (the Y chromosome, passed down from the father).

And the main European languages are related to Hindi because they have a common origin.

And the Indo-European religions are related. I saw a mapping of Norse gods to Hindu gods somewhere. Christianity is a fusion of the Indo-European religion with Judaism.
565   indc   2025 Nov 18, 1:21pm  

https://cohna.org/swastika-is-not-hakenkreuz/

Explains how hitlers haukenkrauz is not swastika.

Hitler didn't even know its called swastika.

And the journalist was James Vincent Murphy. He was irish but worked for American publishers.
566   MolotovCocktail   2025 Nov 18, 1:23pm  

indc says

https://cohna.org/swastika-is-not-hakenkreuz/

Explains how hitlers haukenkrauz is not swastika.

Hitler didn't even know its called swastika.

And the journalist was James Vincent Murphy. He was irish but worked American publishers.


Doesn't matter how you fucking spin it. It's the same thing and came from the same source, India.
567   indc   2025 Nov 18, 1:29pm  

Regarding invasion from steppe to indian subcontinent: there is a discussion happening on X.

https://x.com/yajnadevam/status/1990820031001690464

The picture shows that no eurasian sites were found till now in indian subcontinent.
568   Patrick   2025 Nov 18, 1:32pm  

perplexity.ai


The Nazis got the idea to use the swastika as their symbol from a combination of factors rooted in 19th-century German nationalist and racial theories. The swastika, an ancient symbol of good fortune, was discovered by archaeologist Heinrich Schliemann in the 1870s during his excavations at the site believed to be ancient Troy. Schliemann and others saw the swastika as a "purely Aryan symbol," associating it with the mythical Aryan race, which German nationalists believed themselves to be descendants of.

German nationalist and antisemitic groups, such as the Reichshammerbund and the Bavarian Freikorps, began adopting the swastika as a symbol of Aryan identity and superiority. Adolf Hitler, attracted to this symbolism and its nationalist associations, personally chose the swastika for the Nazi Party in 1920. The Nazi flag combined the swastika with the colors of the old German imperial flag (red, black, and white), linking the movement symbolically to Germany’s imperial past.


The "mythical Aryan race" is definitely not mythical. Iran is named for it. Maybe you can argue that the term "race" is not correct, but there were people of a specific linguistic, genetic, and religious grouping you could call Aryan. Since the Nazis gave the term a bad reputation, it's considered more polite to just call them "Indo-European".
569   indc   2025 Nov 18, 1:44pm  

Again was it called swastika by the nazis is the question.

Not what we call it.
570   Patrick   2025 Nov 18, 2:00pm  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika


The word swastika comes from Sanskrit: स्वस्तिक, romanized: svastika, meaning 'conducive to well-being'.


https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/swastika


Learned borrowing from Sanskrit स्वस्तिक (svastika), from सु- (su-, “good, well”) + अस्ति (asti), a verbal abstract of the root of the verb "to be", स्वस्ति (svasti) thus meaning "well-being" — and the diminutive suffix क (ka); hence "little thing associated with well-being", corresponding roughly to "lucky charm". First attestation in English in 1871, a Sanskritism that replaced the Grecian term gammadion.
572   MolotovCocktail   2025 Nov 19, 3:34pm  

Booger says





The British Who Left 78 Years Ago forced the cow pissee to do that, though.
573   Patrick   2025 Nov 19, 3:39pm  

That woman is pretty hot though, and that's the important thing!
574   KgK one   2025 Nov 19, 3:49pm  

MolotovCocktail says

Booger says






The British Who Left 78 Years Ago forced the cow pissee to do that, though.





I can find random vids of crazy in any country. For usa, plenty of ass eaters 20%, dog fkers, there are whole websites porn of people eating n drinking nasty shit, drinking blood,pedos .. you name it.
575   Patrick   2025 Nov 19, 3:54pm  

I agree, arguments about whether India is good or bad are pointless.

India is a pretty recent invention of the British anyway. There are as many different languages and cultures in India as in Europe, maybe more.
576   HeadSet   2025 Nov 19, 6:30pm  

Patrick says

India is a pretty recent invention of the British anyway

Just like Ireland.
577   Patrick   2025 Nov 19, 6:41pm  

True. Ireland was never unified until the British took it over, except that everyone was Catholic, Celtic, and spoke Irish.

It was just a collection of warring clans, but then they all found a common enemy!
578   HeadSet   2025 Nov 19, 6:45pm  

Patrick says

and spoke Irish.

Not quite. Travel 10 miles and one would be among people speaking an unintelligible dialect.
579   Patrick   2025 Nov 19, 6:54pm  

I studied Irish for five years, and can say that the three main dialects (Munster, Connacht, and Ulster) are pretty different but not unintelligible to each other. It's like you're an American talking to someone from Jamaica. If he speaks slowly, you know what he's saying.

The fourth dialect is Scottish Gaelic, which is more removed, but I've read it takes only about a week for fluent speaker in Irish to pick up enough Scottish Gaelic to understand most of it.

Welsh and Breton are really different from Irish and Scottish, though I can pick up some similarities because they are Celtic. I've heard they can more or less understand each other.

I spent two weeks on Inisheer, off the west cost of Ireland, studying Irish in 2017. I picked that place they had a class, and because my father's family is from Galway and I figured that would be Connacht dialect. Nope! The line runs just above Inisheer, so it was the Munster dialect. Still learned a lot.
581   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Nov 19, 7:49pm  

Patrick says

That woman is pretty hot though, and that's the important thing!


I think she's a butter face. Body may be meh too. Nice clothes though so long as they don't smell like incense. That just reminds me of pot head chicks.
582   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Nov 19, 8:00pm  

Patrick says


the Y chromosome, passed down from the father


Yep, that and mitochondria (maternal line) are the only things you can trace back very far. Consider an equilateral triangle. One edge is mito, the other Y, ignore the bottom. The area IN the triangle being all of the other chromosomes - they get shuffled, blended, recombined during conception, so after about 8 generations there is no trace of ancestors further back, statistically speaking.

Sometimes useful things are conserved for longer periods. I'm basically Irish and Polish (with a English last name) and 1% Chinese and 1% African. But also about 3.5% Neanderthal. So Neanderthal admixture was more useful than the two 1% Homo sapiens sapiens apparently.

Most people of European decent have a similar amount of Neanderthal (Homo sapiens neanderthalesis) vs. myself.

"The term Homo sapiens neanderthalensis was historically used to classify Neanderthals as a subspecies of modern humans, Homo sapiens.
This classification was common in the mid-20th century, particularly following a 1962 consensus among anthropologists, geneticists, and behaviorists who placed Neanderthals within our own species.
However, this view is no longer the prevailing scientific consensus.

Modern research, particularly the 2010 publication of the Neanderthal genome, revealed that Neanderthals and modern humans interbred after modern humans migrated out of Africa, with non-African populations today carrying 1–4% Neanderthal DNA.
This interbreeding, though limited, suggests that Neanderthals and Homo sapiens were not fully reproductively isolated, challenging the traditional biological species concept.
Despite this, many scientists now consider Neanderthals a distinct species, Homo neanderthalensis, due to significant morphological differences, including a longer, lower skull, a more robust build, and distinct ear and pelvic structures.
These differences indicate a separate evolutionary history that began at least 400,000 years ago, with Neanderthals diverging from the lineage leading to modern humans in Eurasia."

- we biologists can't make up our minds. The main requirement to 'be in the same species' is to have fertile offspring, so until that changes I'm old school..
583   WookieMan   2025 Nov 19, 8:54pm  

KgK one says

For usa, plenty of ass eaters 20%, dog fkers, there are whole websites porn of people eating n drinking nasty shit, drinking blood,pedos .. you name it.

You do know 99% of that stuff you find online is totally fake? It's shock value and click bait. There are pedophiles, but most are a 16 with a 20 year old and they are registered as sex offenders. My wife legally is a sex offender with me. Never pressed charges as why would I? It was fun.

This argument will never come to a conclusion. India is a literal shit hole. Skid row is a shit hole, but it's in one area of one of the most prestigious cities in the world.

I haven't been to India and have no intentions of doing so. What states in the US have you been to? I'd like to hear your perspective based on experience. Name almost any city in America and I've been to it, even small ones. How many cities have you been to in India. Experience and anecdotal evidence you personally experience is huge.

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