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When on a vacation with my wife to Washington State to view the scablands, in the group was a doctor and his wife. I talked with them over dinner. She was an author and had written a book about the white genocide in Zimbabwe. Her extended family were farmers. She had relatives raped and killed. She still displayed a sadness of PTSD. She had narrowly escaped. She said nothing in any news approached the enormity of the event, so she wrote her own and I gather was well known for the book, though I can't remember what it was.

I've got a distant relative there of unknown relation. He did really well by borrowing money and buying up land, then paying off the loans after the money was destroyed by their version of the Fed.

I hope no one kills him.

Any recommendations for good movies about Rhodesia?

Patrick says

I've got a distant relative there of unknown relation. He did really well by borrowing money and buying up land, then paying off the loans after the money was destroyed by their version of the Fed.

I hope no one kills him.

That's Zimbabwe.

GNL says

Any recommendations for good movies about Rhodesia?

The Siege of Jadotville is in the general area.

https://open.substack.com/pub/theamericantribune/p/how-rhodesia-fell-and-why-south-africa

They lost because they insisted on fighting in short shorts.

The colonies fell because the colonists had high savings rate and parked their savings in the banks of the mother country; the account balances became liabilities to the banks. So the extermination of the colonists would wipe the liabilities off the banks' books. We saw a pre-run of that during the 1857 Sepoy Rebellion: the British Raj in India (subcontinent) had strong support from natively recruited troops (Sepoy), which vastly out-numbered colonial British troops and were necessary for maintaining control of the even far more vast local population. Then mysteriously new cartridges for guns were shipped in lubricated with a grease made from mixing tallow (cattle fat) and lard (pig fat). Because gun cartridges at the time required the operator biting on the cartridge to remove the seal before loading each shot, the new lubricants meant both Hindu and Muslims would be forced to commit sacrilege while using the cartridges. Obviously the Sepoys were outraged. Their rebellion led to the deaths of thousands of British colonists and their women and children. Of course the banks got to keep the money (never having to pay back the account balances) as the account holders and their entire families were exterminated.

South Africa and Rhodesia were not racist / segregationist regimes until the 1948 race laws passed, 3 years after the death of Hitler and the end of WWII, which was alleged to have been fought to end racism. Rhodesia and South Africa were new pastures where gullible high savings rate human cattle were lured to be fattened up on special privileges over the local population, then slaughtered like cattle for their more concentrated, more harvestable and more easily digestable forms of wealth (account balances instead of the farm/mineral products that the locals would have produced).

Conclusion: if you are in debt up to your eyeballs nobody wants to kill you.

Reality says

The colonies fell because the colonists had high savings rate and parked their savings in the banks of the mother country; the account balances became liabilities to the banks. So the extermination of the colonists would wipe the liabilities off the banks' books.

That may have some overseas historical context but is irrelevant in the US. Banks do not get to keep deposits here when the depositor dies. There is usually a POD (pay on death) in the paperwork and that money is distributed immediately to the named POD without probate at all. If no POD, each state has laws determining heirs to receive any deposits. If no heirs, the money is sent to the state to keep in the "Found Property" account. The state collecting "found property" does not just apply to banks, but to rental deposits and anywhere else that a business holds customer money.

HeadSet says

If no heirs, the money is sent to the state to keep in the "Found Property" account. The state collecting "found property" does not just apply to banks, but to rental deposits and anywhere else that a business holds customer money.

This extends to unclaimed credits/refunds or just inactive checking/saving accounts too.

OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

Women, you're lucky women.
Soon, you'll all be fighting for Rhodesia.
Many of you will be dying for Rhodesia.
A few of you will be put through a fine mesh screen for Rhodesia. They will be the luckiest of all.

What happens to the account balances of individuals in peace/normal/grazing time is quite different from engineered environment where millions of account holders die in the same relatively short harvest time window. For example, when millions of Holocaust victims died, most of their life insurance accounts (really a form of savings account back then, as life insurance policies promised the return of all principle paid into them on demand after the initial few years) were supposed to pay the beneficieries upon death of the policy customers. How much was paid out? None, because most beneficieries were exterminated too, and the Nazi government did not issue death certificates for the victims so the surviving family members had nothing to show and prove to the insurance companies that their relatives died.

Nowadays the banks operating in the US are more regulated; they compete against each other in normal times, but in "emergency" environment they profit as a block, e.g. bailing out AIG in 2008 was simply a way to pay the other banks that were counter-parties to AIG. If millions died during the Covid scam around the world, the various governments' social security programs, public and private pension plans, and banks' reverse-mortgages etc. benefited from those deaths. If Zelensky and his cronies died in the next few weeks to months, off-shore banks (like those in Caribbean, etc.) where they kept money probably benefit; the same has already happened as thousands of corrupt Ukrainian politicians and factory bosses that amassed fortunes from running factories that made switch-gears for cars in the past 30 years met untimely deaths. If tens of millions of people die in a couple years due to astroid strike, the government is not going to physically take all their account balances from the banks, but would simply have off-set arrangement with the various banks and the banking system (where the governments park their own money). Banking works on juggling funds while maintaining its facade by being able to handle withdrawal demands (e.g. Bernie Madoff was able to juggle till he had only 50 million left against over 60 billion account balance claims, worse than 1:1000, before he was exposed; his account holders didn't die off quickly enough for his pyramid scheme to continue). The account balances of victims of a mass death event would never generate a withdrawal request, thereby alleviating the pressure (the gap between claimed asset level vs. real asset level due to mistake/incompetency hidden in the financial system; a consummate insider like Madoff choosing not to hire anyone to invest any part of his fund should tell us the real long-term return on investment after paying the money managers: zero to negative) built up in the banking system in the 70-100 year cycle.

Wait, the Holocaust was real?

RWSGFY says

Wait, the Holocaust was real?

Are you a disgusting Holocaust-denier?

Reality says

RWSGFY says

Wait, the Holocaust was real?

Are you a disgusting Holocaust-denier?

No, I'm a pleasant question-asker. Why?

Reality says

South Africa and Rhodesia were not racist / segregationist regimes until the 1948 race laws passed, 3 years after the death of Hitler and the end of WWII, which was alleged to have been fought to end racism.

That was absolutely not the reason WW2 was fought. That's the AltWoke long-after-the-fact cope magic spell, the same way Woke says Rhodesia was a horrible capitalist enslavement operation.

Notsees get all upset Britain (then about 1/3 of the whole planet in the Empire) fought alone against the Glorious Pegee Socialist for one year. Just wait until "All History is a Lie" folks find out how long Britain fought, often alone, against Napoleon, for the same geopolitical reason

Al-Andalus is the Muslim Rhodesia, except Spain is better off without Islam unlike Rhodesia without Whites.

RWSGFY,

Because your question "Wait, the Holocaust was real?" sounded like you were surprised and/or doubting that the Holocaust was real.

Reality says

RWSGFY,

Because your question "Wait, the Holocaust was real?" sounded like you were surprised and/or doubting that the Holocaust was real.

Jeez, are we explaining jokes now?

It was a jab at brainless morons who in one thread scream about "Nazis!" and then deny Holocaust in another.

AmericanKulak,

I agree. That's why I used the phrase "was alleged" regarding the real purpose of WW2, although the details went deeper than "British Empire fighting alone against evil." Crassus got rich by owning the fire-fighting business in Rome; he sold fire insurance, and those who did not buy his fire insurance had a high chance of having their homes catching fire; he also bought houses that were not insured and on fire, at deep discount.

The Christian "reconquista" of Spain must have also looked/felt terrible to the existing residents there. The rulers of Cordoba Caliphate and its derivative principalities were quite benign by the standards of that time. Although nominally Islamic, they were similar to today's Malaysia and Indonesia: more or less live-and-let-live places, not the fervently Sharia Law places like some of the countries in the Middleast today. Al-Andalus even had large Jewish population, very much enjoying religious freedom (after paying some taxes that the states' finance depended on; working out more like a bribe to control the rulers). By comparison, the bands coming down from the northern mountains must have looked like (what today can only be called) terrorists: they looted the cities one after another, and forced both Muslims and Jews to either convert or get kicked out; then setting up rigged courts torturing those stayed accusing them of faking conversion, in order to shake more money off from them. Essentially a (pre-run) holocaust (with a lower case h) driving most Jews to emigrate to Poland (which covered a larger area of eastern Europe at that time) to settle and later face the Holocaust some 500 years later. Without the Jewish and Muslim merchants, the new Christian Spanish state, despite two enormously lucky finds (Columbus' discovery of the Caribbean, then Conquistadors getting hold of enormous amount of gold and silver in today's Mexico and Peru), squandered all the wealth on religious wars and internal mismanagement, turning Spain into the poorest country in Western Europe. Aside from financing Columbus (and the discovery of what turned out to be the Americas despite Columbus own belief otherwise), the quality of management wasn't a whole lot better than Mugabe's Zimbabwe (what Rhodesia renamed to after kicking out the whites). It shouldn't be a surprise that those shopping for raiders to bring down the wealthy principalities (to wipe out the liabilities in the banking books) were probably looking for the most brutish bands in the mountains . . . just like bankers found and financed the most brutish Commies and Nazis in the 20th century.

I think Philip II broke the Hapsburg Family and Spain by his obsession with Counter-Reformation. I mean he lost several massive fortunes, years of extraction from the flush Silver Mines of Peru, both on the Armada and then in the Netherlands.

Philip II was described as "An intellectual, but not intelligent"

A scene from the 1970s during the largest Trade Fair in the world held annually in Bulawayo Rhodesia.

Ian Smith was a genius

Make Rhodesia Great Again

One of my neighbors in my court went on a 'Chandelier Safari' to Zimbabwe to see Victoria Falls. I would never go on one of those given the area and the history. He said going to the falls (at the juncture of a couple of African countries) wound up requiring a few visa stops and money changing due to the border crossings.

The chandelier safaris put them in big tents with all of the bwana luxury amenities of travel, but still, I think I would be spooked out, Victoria Falls or not.
OkDOGEisAmountingToSomething says

DeportLibtards says

Same kind of empty posturing as pictures of Israeli girls walking around in sun dresses and sandals with M-4s slinged over their shoulders. When the real shit hit the real fan on Oct 07 they turned out to be easy prey and were killed or kidnapped in big numbers.