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Rhodesia Thread


               
2025 Feb 11, 1:32pm   3,040 views  64 comments

by MolotovCocktail   follow (4)  

(Because I am surprised this thread doesn't already exist)



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2   Ceffer   @   2025 Feb 11, 1:50pm  

I had a client couple years ago. They were about the strangest in a strange land. He had been So. African military and spent time in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe. He talked about his intense training as a killing machine. He was discharged because he crushed an obnoxious commanding officer's larynx with a punch, and was kind of on the lam, though they had no cash problems. She was very strange too, an odd but ingratiating witchy type foreign woman. They talked about their intense sexual relationship right in the open. I guess I didn't want to piss them off and get my larynx crushed.
4   Ceffer   @   2025 Feb 11, 2:29pm  

When on a vacation with my wife to Washington State to view the scablands, in the group was a doctor and his wife. I talked with them over dinner. She was an author and had written a book about the white genocide in Zimbabwe. Her extended family were farmers. She had relatives raped and killed. She still displayed a sadness of PTSD. She had narrowly escaped. She said nothing in any news approached the enormity of the event, so she wrote her own and I gather was well known for the book, though I can't remember what it was.
5   Patrick   @   2025 Feb 11, 2:36pm  

I've got a distant relative there of unknown relation. He did really well by borrowing money and buying up land, then paying off the loans after the money was destroyed by their version of the Fed.

I hope no one kills him.
6   GNL   @   2025 Feb 11, 3:15pm  

Any recommendations for good movies about Rhodesia?
7   MolotovCocktail   @   2025 Feb 11, 3:22pm  

Patrick says

I've got a distant relative there of unknown relation. He did really well by borrowing money and buying up land, then paying off the loans after the money was destroyed by their version of the Fed.

I hope no one kills him.


That's Zimbabwe.
8   RC2006   @   2025 Feb 11, 3:32pm  

GNL says

Any recommendations for good movies about Rhodesia?


The Siege of Jadotville is in the general area.
12   Eric_Holder   @   2025 Feb 13, 2:04pm  

They lost because they insisted on fighting in short shorts.
13   Reality   @   2025 Feb 24, 8:54pm  

The colonies fell because the colonists had high savings rate and parked their savings in the banks of the mother country; the account balances became liabilities to the banks. So the extermination of the colonists would wipe the liabilities off the banks' books. We saw a pre-run of that during the 1857 Sepoy Rebellion: the British Raj in India (subcontinent) had strong support from natively recruited troops (Sepoy), which vastly out-numbered colonial British troops and were necessary for maintaining control of the even far more vast local population. Then mysteriously new cartridges for guns were shipped in lubricated with a grease made from mixing tallow (cattle fat) and lard (pig fat). Because gun cartridges at the time required the operator biting on the cartridge to remove the seal before loading each shot, the new lubricants meant both Hindu and Muslims would be forced to commit sacrilege while using the cartridges. Obviously the Sepoys were outraged. Their rebellion led to the deaths of thousands of British colonists and their women and children. Of course the banks got to keep the money (never having to pay back the account balances) as the account holders and their entire families were exterminated.

South Africa and Rhodesia were not racist / segregationist regimes until the 1948 race laws passed, 3 years after the death of Hitler and the end of WWII, which was alleged to have been fought to end racism. Rhodesia and South Africa were new pastures where gullible high savings rate human cattle were lured to be fattened up on special privileges over the local population, then slaughtered like cattle for their more concentrated, more harvestable and more easily digestable forms of wealth (account balances instead of the farm/mineral products that the locals would have produced).
14   RWSGFY   @   2025 Feb 25, 7:43am  

Conclusion: if you are in debt up to your eyeballs nobody wants to kill you.
15   HeadSet   @   2025 Feb 25, 8:50am  

Reality says

The colonies fell because the colonists had high savings rate and parked their savings in the banks of the mother country; the account balances became liabilities to the banks. So the extermination of the colonists would wipe the liabilities off the banks' books.

That may have some overseas historical context but is irrelevant in the US. Banks do not get to keep deposits here when the depositor dies. There is usually a POD (pay on death) in the paperwork and that money is distributed immediately to the named POD without probate at all. If no POD, each state has laws determining heirs to receive any deposits. If no heirs, the money is sent to the state to keep in the "Found Property" account. The state collecting "found property" does not just apply to banks, but to rental deposits and anywhere else that a business holds customer money.
16   MolotovCocktail   @   2025 Feb 25, 8:56am  

HeadSet says

If no heirs, the money is sent to the state to keep in the "Found Property" account. The state collecting "found property" does not just apply to banks, but to rental deposits and anywhere else that a business holds customer money.


This extends to unclaimed credits/refunds or just inactive checking/saving accounts too.

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