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Any of you cats read "The Art of the Deal"?


               
2025 Feb 15, 7:24pm   3,434 views  105 comments

by RWSGFY   follow (4)  

Is it true that the main principle of negotiations described there is basically giving the opponent most of his ask right off the bat?

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90   RWSGFY   2025 Jun 17, 12:31pm  

The author of the book has spoketh:


91   Misc   2025 Jun 17, 12:56pm  

Trump's chest thumping is right out of "The Art of the Deal".

He wants peace and thinks the Iranians may give up if given an untenable position. He would prefer no US attacks on Iran.

Iran doesn't believe the TACO moniker because they haven't done shit to US bases etc.
93   RWSGFY   2025 Jun 17, 1:27pm  

RWSGFY says







Attacking Iran == inability
to negotiate properly because no skills.

Sez the expert, not humble me.
94   RWSGFY   2025 Jun 17, 1:30pm  

Misc says


Trump's chest thumping is right out of "The Art of the Deal".

He wants peace and thinks the Iranians may give up if given an untenable position. He would prefer no US attacks on Iran.



Wait, so puppy eyes and waggy tail and 2 weeks on repeat does not work and is not prescribed in the book? Interesting.
95   RWSGFY   2025 Jun 18, 5:42am  

What's next? Talking to Pukin's dog? Shougu's reindeer?


96   RWSGFY   2025 Jun 18, 8:52pm  

India’s Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri:

Prime Minister Modi clearly told President Trump that during this entire episode, there was never any discussion at any level about an India-U.S. trade deal or U.S. mediation between India and Pakistan. The discussion to halt military action occurred directly between India and Pakistan through existing channels between both armies and was made at Pakistan's request.

Prime Minister Modi firmly stated that India has neither accepted mediation, nor does it do so—and never will. There is complete political unanimity on this subject in India. President Trump understood the details explained by the Prime Minister and expressed support for India's fight against terrorism. Prime Minister Modi also said that India now sees terrorism not as a proxy war, but as a war.

[translated from Hindi]


TL;DR: Donnie dindu nuffin for this particular "deal".
97   RWSGFY   2025 Jun 19, 11:38am  

RWSGFY says

Misc says



Trump's chest thumping is right out of "The Art of the Deal".

He wants peace and thinks the Iranians may give up if given an untenable position. He would prefer no US attacks on Iran.



Wait, so puppy eyes and waggy tail and 2 weeks on repeat does not work and is not prescribed in the book? Interesting.


ROTFLMAO:

President Trump in a statement:

Based on the fact that there is a significant opportunity for negotiations that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision regarding whether to go to war or not within the next two weeks.



98   RWSGFY   2025 Jun 25, 8:27am  

RWSGFY says


RWSGFY says


Misc says


Trump's chest thumping is right out of "The Art of the Deal".

He wants peace and thinks the Iranians may give up if given an untenable position. He would prefer no US attacks on Iran.



Wait, so puppy eyes and waggy tail and 2 weeks on repeat does not work and is not prescribed in the book? Interesting.



ROTFLMAO:

President Trump in a statement:

Based on the fact that there is a significant opportunity for negotiations that may or may not take place with Iran in the near future, I will make my decision regarding whether to go to war or not within the next two weeks.






Well, he finally found a little Reagan in him. (With a lot of help from Bibi).
99   RWSGFY   2025 Jun 25, 8:29am  

But Lil Marco still thinks negotiating from a position of weakness is the way to go:



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100   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Jun 25, 8:54am  

RWSGFY says

But Lil Marco still thinks negotiating from a position of weakness is the way to go:



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sanctions against Russia didn’t work. we cut them off from swift, they were fine.
101   RWSGFY   2025 Jun 25, 9:08am  

Fortwaye says

RWSGFY says


But Lil Marco still thinks negotiating from a position of weakness is the way to go:



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sanctions against Russia didn’t work. we cut them off from swift, they were fine.


Except we didn't. Only some banks were cut off but plenty remained connected "to process payments for food, oil and fertilizer" and naturally the shit was rerouted through them. This goes for everything: Joe-fucking-Biden made sure everything he was doing was half-ass, too little and too late.
102   RWSGFY   2025 Jul 7, 5:31pm  

Soo, Donnie made more concessions - lifted sanctions from Moscow's banks dealing with Syria and stopped supplying arms and ammo to Ukraine - and Pukin shat on his face by ordering a huge drone strike on civilians right after their phone call.

The art of the cuck?
103   RWSGFY   2025 Nov 20, 1:42pm  

The art of the deal by the former Soviet foreign minister Andrei Gromyko:


- First, demand the maximum, do not meekly ask but demand.

- Second, present ultimatums.

- Third, do not give one inch of ground because there will always be someone in the West that will offer you something maybe half that you did not previously have.


You be the judge which art of the deal works better.
104   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Nov 21, 7:42am  

Problem with art if the deal is that after 2-3 times no one takes your ask seriously if they know your strategy.

Trump screams for something, everyone knows he’s bluffing ultimatums and asking for the moon and will settle for less. Art of the deal is better described imo by Daniel Carnegie.
105   Eric Holder   2025 Nov 21, 3:09pm  

FortWayneHatesRealtors says


Problem with art if the deal is that after 2-3 times no one takes your ask seriously if they know your strategy.


The Gromyko strategy is not a secret and hasn't been for a long time yet the Western idiots fall for it time and time again.

FortWayneHatesRealtors says


Trump screams for something, everyone knows he’s bluffing ultimatums and asking for the moon and will settle for less.


He started with giving away 1/2 of the farm. And was predictably presented with more demands. Then he gave away even more and was again rebuffed and faced with demands for MOAR.

Couldn't even get a fucking ceasefire after a whole year of dancing and it seems like he abandoned this very minimal condition alltogether.

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