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Globalism's Latest Shitshow: Their Crap Ain't Selling Anymore


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2025 Apr 5, 4:11pm   983 views  78 comments

by MolotovCocktail   ➕follow (4)   ignore  

The tariffs discussions online and in the media have taken an awesome turn, have you noticed?



Everywhere, not just on PatNet. And the basic gist of it is:

1) The globalists and their Minions are crying Chicken Little because something for realz is happening that is bringing their means of ass raping us to an end or at least seriously limits it.

2) Part of that, they are pushing the same old bullshit 'free trade' narrative.

3) But NOBODY is buying it. Furthermore, even the least articulate/educated ppl even seem to catch some crap the globalist bullshitters post and use it to rip 'em a new one.

My X feed is filled with them. It is awesome to behold.

This one is a tad more on the sophisticated side than what I just described, but is my fav AND IS representive of what I just said:



4) We are even seeing what I call 'mini-manifestos' being posted by ppl -- myself included -- who had bought into the Globalist Bullshit now openly admitting that they were wrong and calling it what it actually is.

Example: https://patrick.net/comment?comment_id=2164721

5) I am seeing this from the Left. From the Right. From ppl I can't stand. From ppl I respect. From ppl I disagree with on certain things but agree on others. From ppl who I would normally wouldn't see on my feeds at all. From ppl not even on any feeds because they aren't online like me.

6) LIKEWISE, I see the bullshit response from ppl I either a) never heard of before or b) ppl I always knew were bought off - like Senator Grassley. The real stupid ones in my view are those like Bill Krystal who is jumping on this bandwagon simply because he hates Trump.

They are only shooting themselves on the foot.

I don't know for sure if the tariffs will work as advertised. I do believe, however, that they will work a lot better than the screaming globalists rant. In fact, I -- and all the aforementioned others -- see that they are actually in fear that they will actually work enough to fuck with their free trade scam.

This thread is to talk about that. The various other tariff dedicated threads have already started doing so. So maybe this is a little late.

But let's see..

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17   Ceffer   2025 Apr 6, 1:33pm  

I remember in the hippy dippy days in San Francisco, hippy parents were being arrested for killing their children through malnutrition with their vegan brown rice diets.

We had a neighbor who decided her dog should be vegan. Poor animal aged rapidly, lost all joy and bounce, and dragged ass until it shortly died. It was a Bichon, a typically energetic and sprightly breed.

Although my own childhood was rudderless, after hearing about the Satanic ritual abuse stuff and the consumption and torture of children for Satanism (even amongst the rich, many of whom have at least one child who 'died' aka human sacrifice), I can count my blessings.
18   HeadSet   2025 Apr 6, 3:23pm  

Patrick says

He kept saying that a country like China which exports manufactured goods globally has an advantage of scale,

"Scale" my ass, it's the slave labor and zero pollution laws.
21   AmericanKulak   2025 Apr 7, 10:35am  

stereotomy says

I think I'm an asshole, but it humbles me that I could have affected another person to that degree. I am blessed beyond what I deserve, but then again, it is not my place to judge my own worth.

You were put where you were for a good purpose. Right on, Stereo. Keep carrying the Fire.
23   clambo   2025 Apr 7, 12:08pm  

Re: Chinese manufacturing.
It might be hard to believe, but Chinese prisons have factories.
How can any county compete with slave labor?
25   stereotomy   2025 Apr 7, 1:04pm  

clambo says

Re: Chinese manufacturing.
It might be hard to believe, but Chinese prisons have factories.
How can any county compete with slave labor?

The last time I heard somewhat reliable numbers - this was the mid 90's or early 'naughties - about 10% of all Chinese production was prison labor.

This is why when Chinese made shit breaks, I say to everyone in earshot "What do Chinese political prisoners know about making X?"
29   MolotovCocktail   2025 Apr 7, 3:06pm  




Holy shit! Just got me a new PatNet username!

MolotovCocktail
33   MolotovCocktail   2025 Apr 7, 7:33pm  

The latest. Be sure to watch the video.

It's offensive as hell. Shrillary Clinton Deplorable offensive.

..and what about the robots?


34   AmericanKulak   2025 Apr 7, 9:18pm  

MolotovCocktail says


The latest. Be sure to watch the video.

It's offensive as hell. Shrillary Clinton Deplorable offensive.

..and what about the robots?

In Neoliberal land, you're either an upjumped overpaid paperpusher or a nobody. It's not just Academia & Government that needs a good DOGE'ing.

"Sorry Chuck, we just don't need you to be a $140k/year email standards quality assurance engineer"
"But what will you do without my Kaizen certified Six Sigma Black Belt... I have an English Degree from Reed and an MBA from U Phoenix!? Who will make sure people aren't double spacing after periods? You don't know how much stakeholder value I protect here!"
38   WookieMan   2025 Apr 10, 9:07am  

HeadSet says

WookieMan says
But tax free dollars at 3-4%

Good to know, but rates are higher than you think:

No. That's just a screen shot of a marketing piece. Rates are lower than that. It's a risk free loan as the lender/brokerage can sell the stocks automatically and lose nothing while collecting interest. Or Schwab is just a bunch of Jews.

Like I've said I should have just kept the margin loan of $125/mo on $85k for the house forever. Reinvest the difference what the normal mortgage would have been. It was against over $600k of stocks so a margin call was basically impossible or a nuclear war broke out. Margin is way cheaper than what you posted. Just depends on the stock value.
39   WookieMan   2025 Apr 10, 9:09am  

Also, even if it's 12% that's cheaper than capital gains or regular income taxes. It's not that high for the wealthy either way. How do you think Musk, Gates and Bezos pay themselves? Against their stocks.
41   AmericanKulak   2025 Apr 10, 5:04pm  

MolotovCocktail says







"Iran just wants to be left aloooooonne"
42   Patrick   2025 Apr 13, 7:20pm  

MolotovCocktail says




My wife and I visited Tokyo about 10 years ago. The most striking thing was the incredible number of small factories, really small, like the size of someone's garage. They all seemed family run. Maybe they make parts on spec for the automotive industry.
43   RWSGFY   2025 Apr 23, 5:57am  

WookieMan says


How do you think Musk, Gates and Bezos pay themselves? Against their stocks.


That's how Peloton guy lost $4M in fire sale of his house to cover margin call on his stonks.
44   RWSGFY   2025 Apr 23, 6:06am  

WookieMan says



Like I've said I should have just kept the margin loan of $125/mo on $85k for the house forever.



Margin is not fixed. So whenever it was $125 on $85K (2020-ish?) it's sure as shit at least 3x now.
46   Eric Holder   2025 Apr 25, 2:09pm  

MolotovCocktail says




https://commonplace.org/2025/04/24/why-are-free-traders-so-emotional-about-trade/


It cuts both ways. Some on the BBT side are also emotional about BS like "must make tube socks and wife-beater shirts in the USA" and similarly can't be taken seriously.
47   MolotovCocktail   2025 Apr 25, 2:29pm  

Eric Holder says

It cuts both ways. Some on the BBT side are also emotional about BS like "must make tube socks and wife-beater shirts in the USA" and similarly can't be taken seriously


Bullshit.

https://toddshelton.com/blog/about-todd-shelton/made-in-america/american-made-clothing-brands#socks
48   Eric Holder   2025 Apr 25, 2:35pm  

MolotovCocktail says


Eric Holder says


It cuts both ways. Some on the BBT side are also emotional about BS like "must make tube socks and wife-beater shirts in the USA" and similarly can't be taken seriously


Bullshit.

https://toddshelton.com/blog/about-todd-shelton/made-in-america/american-made-clothing-brands#socks



Tangent. Sure some shit is being made here, duh. The emotional fucks on the BBT side say it ALL should be made here RIGHT FUCKING NOW. Which is both impossible and not really necessary.
49   stereotomy   2025 Apr 25, 3:29pm  

Eric Holder says

MolotovCocktail says



Eric Holder says



It cuts both ways. Some on the BBT side are also emotional about BS like "must make tube socks and wife-beater shirts in the USA" and similarly can't be taken seriously


Bullshit.

https://toddshelton.com/blog/about-todd-shelton/made-in-america/american-made-clothing-brands#socks




Tangent. Sure some shit is being made here, duh. The emotional fucks on the BBT side say it ALL should be made here RIGHT FUCKING NOW. Which is both impossible and not really necessary.

I don't care about right now. I want my son to be able to get a good job that isn't being stolen by Chindians or reduced to $1 wages by mass rapefugee migrations.

I get it, you don't have children, you've made your pile, pulled up the ladder, and now it's "GET OFF MY LAWN." You'll die in your castle, and that will be it. Some of us are trying to make a future for our children and their families. Excuse us if we try to do so.
50   MolotovCocktail   2025 Apr 25, 5:05pm  

Eric Holder says

Which is both impossible and not really necessary.


Not impossible.

But is not really necessary.
52   AmericanKulak   2025 Apr 26, 10:58pm  

MolotovCocktail says





https://commonplace.org/2025/04/24/why-are-free-traders-so-emotional-about-trade/

First it was we'd keep and expand the higher value added business.
Remember when Clinton and Bush alike propounded that WE would sell High Tech Electronics TO China?
ONE BILLION CUSTOMERS FOR US PRODUCTS IF WE HAVE DAH FREETRADEZ
Then it was it will help democratize China... LOL
Then it was, it's costing jobs, but look at the GDP growth... (CATO around 2003, wish I bookmarked. Classic, Yeah you blew away my old excuse, but...)
After the financial crisis and years of anemic GDP growth and no real wage gains and ever-widening trade and budget deficits... "My magic crystal ball saw into the alternate reality of no MFN with China and America is a blazing ball of hell with cats and dogs raining from the sky. Well, I don't really have a magic ball but that's what I believe in my reality, and we make our own reality."
Now it's like "We can't build factories in less than 10 years and nobody will lend money!" Nevermind China basically bloated up like the kid from Willy Wonka.

When all it ever was, was no enviro laws and Slave / 19th Century Labor Arb
53   AmericanKulak   2025 Apr 26, 11:09pm  

What can we do to bring manufacturing back?

We can act like old farts and tell all the children, like Millennial 35-year old and Zoomer 16-year old alike, about Philips TVs and how Woolworth's buttons were fucking made in the USA within our lifetimes. Let them know it was the recent past and when we made our own shit, an Assistant Store manager at the IPA could actually buy Al Bundy's house and it didn't cost $600k on a 50k income.
54   Robert Sproul   2025 Apr 27, 7:22am  

AmericanKulak says

Let them know it was the recent past and when we made our own shit,

It is living memory to me. When I was a boy every single thing, in every single store, was made in the USofA. Clothes, tires, tools, the whole shebang. Then clothes from Korea and baseball gloves from Japan and then Taiwan started to slip in, always based on price never quality. (Exceptions on the margins were cars or cameras from Germany and then Japan) In the 60's stores like Cost Plus opened in cities like S.F. that featured wicker and rattan and various exotic junk 'imported from far-away places'. You had to make a special effort to go buy foreign made crap.
55   HeadSet   2025 Apr 27, 8:23am  

Robert Sproul says

It is living memory to me. When I was a boy every single thing, in every single store, was made in the USofA.

Also a different mentality back then. People not only would pay extra for American made, many would also pay extra for Union made. That changed when the generation came along that would buy a cheaper Japanese TV rather than a Zenith or RCA made locally.
56   mell   2025 Apr 27, 8:43am  

All true but part of it was the fact that importing was very expensive back then, Ocean shipping costs declined by like 50% from the 70s to now (container shipping and operations greatly scaled up), and airfare also got cheaper due to more efficient fuel mixes etc. So it wasn't just companies and citizens taking pride in things made in their own country, they probably would have started mass importing sooner if it would have been financially advantageous back then.

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