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The dilemma of democracy


               
2025 Apr 30, 10:25am   89 views  4 comments

by Patrick   follow (59)  

https://barsoom.substack.com/p/post-mortem-for-the-canadian-election


The most successful parties in country after country are the parties that mobilize client groups by promising to steal money from productive citizens and transfer that wealth to their non-productive clients. This dynamic is baked into the cake of any universal suffrage democracy, which is why Universal Suffrage is a Suicide Pact. Parties need client groups for electoral support; wealth can only be plundered from the productive; therefore the only available relationship is to cultivate non-productive clients.




The problem, of course, is that over time this destroys the economic productivity of the liberal democracy, because the productive groups will become less productive because what’s the point, or they’ll just look for the exits, while the client groups will swell, becoming simultaneously too expensive to maintain and to electorally heavy to dislodge.

I suspect you could fix all of this by simply tying votes to tax receipts, with only those who are net taxpayers being given the franchise in any given election. At a stroke this would disenfranchise the welfare underclass, government bureaucrats, and university students, all of whom should be prohibited from voting as a matter of principle. If you wanted to be really fancy, you could implement a tax-weighted vote: the more taxes you pay, the more your vote counts.

In addition to the salutary effects of reducing the electoral weight of female voters (since men tend to pay more in taxes), weighting votes by tax receipts would lead to a very interesting incentive structure. On the one hand, everyone hates paying taxes, and wants to minimize the taxes they pay; if only taxpayers were voting, this would place a strong downward pressure on taxes and, hence, on the size of government (thus forcing states to find other ways of funding themselves, via e.g. tariffs or service fees). On the other hand, people like to vote, so there would be a strong incentive not to evade taxes. On the gripping hand, since paying more tax means your vote counts for more, there would be a countervailing incentive to pay as much tax as you can afford. One might imagine a state functioning as a sort of de facto oligarchy, with the billionaires happily paying obscene levels of tax in order to gather as much political power to their class as possible, and enforcing their tyranny by voting to keep taxes on everyone else to the absolute bare minimum. This would be a truly dystopian brier patch to be thrown into.


I objected that taxes paid are not the best way to measure productivity.


I like your idea of letting only productive people vote, but it's wrong to assume that taxes are proportional to productivity.

The highest incomes are often derived from completely nonproductive activities, such as merely owning and renting out valuable land. See the wealthy Grosvenor family, which holds title to 300 choice acres in central London and hasn't had to do a whit of productive labor for centuries.

The people profiting the most from Canada's housing bubble are similar, and this is why they are strongly in favor of the immigration of infinite Indians. The solution to that bubble is about 150 years old now, but well-hidden from the modern public's eyes: Georgism.

I would be all for limiting the franchise to productive citizens only, but how exactly to measure that?


One proven solution is to eliminate diversity and limit citizenship to a native high-productivity group. Worked very well for Germany pre-Merkel, and for Japan, and for the US, mostly, until the globalists (for money) and feminists (out of misguided sympathy) allied to import the 3rd world.

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1   Ingrid   2025 Apr 30, 10:59am  

not sure about Germany pre-Merkel. I was still quite young when some villages in Germany were already 70 % Turkish inhabitants. This was 40+ years ago. Right after the war, Belgium 'imported' large amounts of Italians to work in the mines and later to do low pay jobs. After that came a large group of north Africans, just like in France. One of my last visits I went to Antwerp. Most streets are completely inhabited by foreigners, almost all Middle-Eastern and African. My friend's daughter is the only one in a long street who is 'belgian' Belgian.
As to taxes - govt should be paid like workers. You don't show up, you get nothing. You only get paid for the days in office. No transportation, no health insurance, no nothing just like most workers. Yes some taxes are needed, to make and repair roads etc. But I think the largest amount goes to governmentarians living lavishly off of taxpayers money ! These are the non-productive ones.
Indeed high incomes are usually non-productive! compared to the CEO the worker in his factory earns close to nothing! There are still quite a few workers hereabouts in small town GA who make 10 $ or less an hour.
2   MolotovCocktail   2025 Apr 30, 1:27pm  

Ingrid says

not sure about Germany pre-Merkel. I was still quite young when some villages in Germany were already 70 % Turkish inhabitants.


Yeah, but they didn't have citizenship. One had to have a German father to be a German citizen. The Turks has no right to vote. Even second and third generation.
3   MolotovCocktail   2025 Apr 30, 1:29pm  

I think a poll tax should be levied. But can't do that anymore.
4   AmenCorner_AntiPanican   2025 Apr 30, 1:32pm  

MolotovCocktail says

I think a poll tax should be levied. But can't do that anymore.

Yeah, a $500 per head tax, and proof it was paid should be a requirement to vote. Nobody except retired or disabled or current military exempt.

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