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AmericanKulak says

"Why can a crazy ex felon not possess a firearm, when Marvin the Accountant can have one?"

Fair point, but the US is the only nation which has ever used an Atomic bomb, so except for history is always written by the winners there is no moral ground for the US to dictate who can and who can't. At least in the eye of most of the rest of the world. Israel has legitimate concerns as a neighbor, but you'd think so would the other Middle Eastern states. We all know just because you're a state with similar religious make up doesn't make you immune to being a target amongst "your own", even on the slightest disagreements (see the middle eastern history of infighting or the democrats/leftoids).

mell says

legitimate concerns as a neighbor, but you'd think so would the other Middle Eastern states

They do. I mentioned this in an earlier post in this thread. Here is MbS flat out saying they will get a bomb if Iran does. And, because Saudi has a deal with Pakistan (that is dependent on Saudi aid in many areas), they will get several bombs immediately, no R&D required.

"If they get one, we HAVE to get one"


Like Feminism, Internalized Leftism/Postmodernism Foucaultism has penetrated deep into American Society. We did win, we're winners, we're moral.

Also losers do sulk off and write histories all the time and push for generations to rewrite it so they were the wronged heroes.

Has any US paper reported on the damage in Israel?

Ceffer says

Grok'd.

Lol, wtf?

The claim that Tel Aviv is burning lacks
credible evidence as of June 13, 2025. No
major news outlets report fires or attacks in
Tel Aviv today, with sources like The Times
of Israel describing the city as calm despite
regional tensions.

The major news outlets are NOT credible evidence of anything, and all Israeli news has to agree to military censorship to operate at all.

Patrick says

The major news outlets are NOT credible evidence of anything, and all Israeli news has to agree to military censorship to operate at all.

@Patrick, go look at a livestream of Tel Aviv in daytime after the attacks.

You'd never know there was round of Atari Missile Command happening over it in previous nights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S3040eVT4Y

The missile slavos are going steadily down; the more Iran fires, the more they reveal their operation area and the less they have both launchers and missiles. Last salvo was a measely 50, and the one before that barely 100.

MacGregor's vaunted "1000s of missiles would hit every US base in the Middle East if we went to war with Iran" is a joke at this point; the Iranians are struggling just to get Missiles into general urban areas. Never mind individual hangars, radar sets, etc.

Many are disappointed that Iran can barely kill a hand or two count worth of Israeli civilians in mass salvos of 100s of missiles.

I just hope the BRICS countries don't intervene. Hahahahahaha

AmericanKulak says

They do. I mentioned this in an earlier post in this thread. Here is MbS flat out saying they will get a bomb if Iran does. And, because Saudi has a deal with Pakistan (that is dependent on Saudi aid in many areas), they will get several bombs immediately, no R&D required.

So they will get them anyways, no matter what they say, after all SA was apparently mainly involved in 911 etc, are we going to bomb them as well then? It's the same argument people are making who are saying Putin broke all contracts, so no use bringing him to the table and use diplomacy. Despite how screwed up some regimes look, I believe they don't want to nuke each other, otherwise Pakistan India wouldn't be standing anymore. Hopefully regime change will come, but that doesn't mean we should abandon diplomacy.

Let's recall that 2 of the past 3 admins got on their knees for Iran with John Kerry, Ben Rhodes, etc. up to and including the infamous "Palettes of Cash"

What did Iran do with the money Obama and Biden gave them?

Bailed out their economy and spent it on funding Hezbollah, Hamas, and Houthis with weapons. Not only negotiations but giving money failed royally. If anything, the negotiations brought time for the nukes, armed Iran's proxies, and allowed the regime to survive an Economic Crisis that was about to overthrow it.

Then Trump gave Iran 60 days. On the 61st, Bibi attacked Iran.

The IAEA censored Iran for deception and non-cooperation about it's nuclear plans I believe late 2024.

More gallows humor.

Patrick says

Has any US paper reported on the damage in Israel?

I was just at the gym and watching fulsome crock CNN already rewriting history and constantly showing an untouched and unphased skyline of Tel Aviv, and no vids at all of rockets or damages to such.

By the way, when is Hezbollah gonna come in and smash the IDF to pieces? Beep beep!

Trump can't win in this scenario. If he claims he didn't know about the Israeli incursion, he is a lame duck who doesn't know what his own government is up to (SES/CIA Deep State civil war?).

If he knew, he was complicit through inferred consent or inaction when he could have stopped it.

Ceffer says

If he knew, he was complicit through inferred consent or inaction when he could have stopped it.

Complicit in what? US forces aren't involved.

It's an even better proxy war than the Ukey Fluffer one is.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/06/flashback-trumps-director-national-intelligence-tulsi-gabbard-testified/

MolotovCocktail says

Complicit in what? US forces aren't involved.

It's an even better proxy war than the Ukey Fluffer one is.

Problem is, he isn't fooling anybody, and the Persians have already peeked under the proxy skirts and they're pissed. I just hope the Israeli thing is a wet fuse and the slippery slope to American involvement isn't breached.

Ceffer says

American involvement isn't breached.

A reminder: Trump never promised no-intervention,ever. Not part of Trump's America First. So no claims of "Betrayed", please. There was nothing to Betray unless Trump announces the occupation Iran with US divisions. 70% of Republicans don't want Iran to have Nukes (source above in another of my posts - actual US phone lines on US carriers, not Pakistanis or Nicksuckers with 10 Groyper alts voting)

WW3 Update: Putin threatens Trump by sharing his phone calls with both Iran and Israel during Birthday call! Putin open to help mediate on Iran! Putin brashly declares his willingness to help de-escalate!

In his post, Mr Trump said: "President Putin called this morning to very nicely wish me a Happy Birthday, but to more importantly, talk about Iran, a country he knows very well. We talked at length.

"Much less time was spent talking about Russia/Ukraine, but that will be for next week. He is doing the planned prisoner swaps - large numbers of prisoners are being exchanged, immediately, from both sides.

"The call lasted approximately 1 hour. He feels, as do I, this war in Israel-Iran should end, to which I explained, his war should also end."

During the conversation, the Russian leader briefed President Trump on his recent talks with the leaders of Israel and Iran - reiterating Russia's hopes to seek mutually acceptable solutions on Iran's growing nuclear issue.
https://news.sky.com/story/trump-and-putin-agree-iran-israel-conflict-should-end-in-hour-long-phone-call-13383778

WW3 on the horizon! Get your iodine pills and clean up your bunker! It's happening!!!

Do you want to play a game, Professor Faulken?

AmericanKulak says

WW3 on the horizon! Get your iodine pills and clean up your bunker! It's happening!!!

Do you want to play a game, Professor Faulken?

My precious gonads. I have special iodine rub for them.

How can one tell exactly what Israelis are dancing for?

Maybe Trump can exploit France as a proxy proxy. Another layer of shielding could never hurt.

Wow. You can make weaponized drones in your kitchen? I really feel inferior now.

France and now N. Korea. The rumble is being assembled. Rude frogs and N. Koreans might start killing each other.

There seems to be a distinct divide between what 'Trump' does and what 'Washington' does. Can Trump be blamed for what 'Washington' does? It seems to be an un-corralled wild horse working for foreign entities.

Wasn't Putin trying to re-patriate these? Is it kinna like Rothschild financed pogroms to bend 'Jews' to its geopolitical will?

Allegedly, IDF has withdrawn from southern Gaza. In preparation for what exactly?

Thank you Bibi. Can we get those oil shale fields and fracking on line tut suite now?

I wonder if they are air dropping left over pagers.

Uh, Oh, Trump. Skirts tossed.

LOL! The Iranians say the exact same thing about Israel's using civilian areas as human shields.

Hell is the absence of all reason, and we have been in that condition for some years now. Why stop now?

Look what Israel is doing to Teheran and Gaza



When Holy Rus fights the Schismatics of Ukraine, they never damage civilian buildings

This Big Bomb Should Not Go to Israel pdf

Red Queen evolution? Iranian missiles that actively evade the defensive missiles.

This was before she found out about the Frankists and married her Edward Windsor.