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MolotovCocktail says

I think this is a face losing mistake for New Delhi. Because they aren't going to get this, I think. Thus their opposition is going to rip Modi a new one for failing to do so.

How about they just get jobs in India? Novel concept. I know US companies abuse it for lower wages, but much of the money is going back to India. No different than illegals from Mexico and Central America. There's a reason Trump created MAGA. Wish these other countries would do that for themselves instead of on the backs of Americans. They don't and then blame us. It's the twilight zone when people, Americans, get upset about Trump's move on H1-B's.

Another thing that should not be permitted is health and finance information being serviced outside the US.

It simply should not be permitted, either outsourcing OR contracting.

Has to be 110% inside the USA subject to US laws by US citizens with no foreign ties.

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Another thing that should not be permitted is health and finance information being serviced outside the US.

It simply should not be permitted, either outsourcing OR contracting.

Has to be 110% inside the USA subject to US laws by US citizens with no foreign ties.

Absolutely.

WookieMan says

MolotovCocktail says

I think this is a face losing mistake for New Delhi. Because they aren't going to get this, I think. Thus their opposition is going to rip Modi a new one for failing to do so.

How about they just get jobs in India? Novel concept. I know US companies abuse it for lower wages, but much of the money is going back to India. No different than illegals from Mexico and Central America. There's a reason Trump created MAGA. Wish these other countries would do that for themselves instead of on the backs of Americans. They don't and then blame us. It's the twilight zone when people, Americans, get upset about Trump's move on H1-B's.

I wonder why there are so many security breaches in medical information - could it be that the chindians are selling the info?

stereotomy says

I wonder why there are so many security breaches in medical information - could it be that the chindians are selling the info?

The access to US networks and data from the 3rd world shitholes should be banned by the Congress. This would instantly solve the outsourcing, the data theft, the security breaches and tech jobs/salaries stagnation.

Grok sez:

The post accurately reports the U.S. government shutdown's impact on the Department of Labor's Office of Foreign Labor Certification (OFLC), suspending processing for H-1B, H-2A, and H-2B visas as of October 1, 2025, due to a funding lapse that disables key systems like the Foreign Labor Application Gateway (FLAG).

This halt affects over 85,000 annual H-1B visas typically certified via Labor Condition Applications (LCAs), creating delays for employers and potentially opening more opportunities for U.S. college graduates in tech and seasonal sectors.

Replies reflect mixed sentiments, with some users celebrating reduced foreign competition and others noting potential loopholes, underscoring ongoing debates about immigration's role in the labor market amid the shutdown.

I remember attending town hall meeting of a politician several years back. He was a democrat, also gay (lol). Anyway, I recall him telling the attendees..."Is the government your mother? No... don't trust it".

H-1B visa holders are paid approximately half of what an American corporation would have to pay a citizen employee. (they use a structured system).

Looks like word is getting around...

gabbar says

H-1B visa holders are paid approximately half of what an American corporation would have to pay a citizen employee. (they use a structured system).

Not since Obama: he put a floor under it. I know an H1B guy who instant 35% salary bump because of it.

Pausing, not stopping. Maybe for 10 minutes.

Patrick says

Pausing, not stopping. Maybe for 10 minutes.

Pausing to strategize and finding long term workarounds.

gabbar says

Patrick says

Pausing, not stopping. Maybe for 10 minutes.

Pausing to strategize and finding long term workarounds.

It’s not complex. Finance guys open up excel spreadsheet and add numbers to see which costs less.

https://x.com/HumbleFlow/status/1988710579398201525

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/save-maga-tuesday-november-18-2025

It is all about the foreign worker visas. “Many conservatives,” Michelle Goldberg continued, “were livid about an interview Trump gave to Laura Ingraham explaining the need for H1-B visas.” Trying not to gloat, she added, “Many right-wing influencers reacted with unusual fury, some posting images of burning MAGA hats.”

All this over a single interview? About a 35-year-old problem that Trump is working on? Really?

Complaints about H1B visas began almost as soon as the program was established in 1990. By 1993, Congress was already holding hearings, packed with gripes about tech companies using H1Bs to undercut wages. Labor unions, especially in manufacturing and programming, were the earliest and loudest critics. A 1998 Senate hearing featured an unforgettable and widely reported line, that companies were using H-1Bs as “indentured tech servants.”




If the H1B issue is important to you, watch this 2017 episode of 60 Minutes, describing the long-standing debate. Over 35 years of acrimony and displaced American workers, nobody ever did anything about it.

Apparently, it is nobody’s fault, either. In the Clinton, Bush, and Trump 1.0 eras, Dems blamed Republicans for “selling out American workers,” allowing “corporate indenture,” and raising visa caps. In the 2010s–2020s, Republicans hit back hard, accusing Democrats of outsourcing American jobs, blocking reforms to stop visa abuse, and citing Disney, Southern California Edison, and Silicon Valley as Democrat-aligned institutions screwing American workers.

Congress never did anything. No President except Trump ever did anything about H1Bs.

Here’s the whole disreputable history:

George H.W. Bush created the H1B system by signing Congress’ 1990 Immigration Act into law.

Clinton signed laws in 1998 and 2000 ‘temporarily’ raising the visa cap to 115,000 and then 195,000. (By 2020, it had rocketed to 300,000, including extensions.)

George W. Bush defended H-1Bs as “good for competitiveness.”

Obama expanded tech exemptions (like OPT for STEM), and H1B approvals skyrocketed.

Trump 1.0 was the first — and only — president to pull H1Bs back. Ever. He issued Executive Order 13788 (“Buy American, Hire American”). Visa approval rates plunged from ~95% to ~75%. Requests for Evidence (RFE) rates jumped above 60%. Fraud detection got aggressive. Meanwhile, Trump got zero help from Congress, not even performative help. Less than zero, actually.

Joe Biden promptly reversed all Trump’s H1B restrictions. Approval rates shot right back to 95%+. RFEs collapsed. Trump’s new wage rules were suspended.

During Trump 1.0, Congress could have helped the president. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) and Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) even filed a bipartisan H1B reform bill, the “Raise the Wage H1B Reform Act,” but Republican leadership never allowed it to the floor for a vote. The whole time the bill languished in committee, grandstanding Congressional Democrats sang epic songs about how racist Trump’s H1B rules were.

Trump stands alone as the only president who ever cracked down, and he had to do it over Congress’s dead body.

So this year, as soon as Trump got back into office, he once again started doing whatever he could without help from Congress to cut back on H1Bs. He reinstated his old rules and added new ones. After everything he has done, fighting fierce political opposition every step of the way, President Trump must now feel pretty bitter about conservative critics crucifying him for the H1B problems. ...

Because if —thanks to this media-fueled, red-on-red MAGA civil war— Trump does become a lame duck, then guess what happens next? H1Bs will never ever get fixed. Do you really think Gavin Newsom will fix H1Bs? Pritzger? Whitmer? No, H1Bs will double or triple under Democrats, of course. Think about that mortifying possibility whenever you’re tempted to complain.

I’m not saying don’t complain. I’m saying don’t help Democrats. And I’m saying: help Trump.

All of those doctors and engineers.

The highest amount of H1b visas issued in one year was 400,000 in 2024 by Joe Biden admin.

Under Biden a conservative estimate of 2-3 million illegals entered the USA per year.

Which of the 2 was the bigger problem?

Which one has Trump already solved?

Which one is hardly mentioned anymore?

Which one do the anti trumpers continue to bitch about?

Handling which one first will bring more jobs to working class Americans?

Which one impacts "college educated" voters more?

On avg who did college educated workers vote for in 2024?

On avg who did working class workers vote for?

If you were a politician which one would you handle first, the one that impacted your voters the most or the one that impacted the other person's voters more?

The main impact of H1B visas is mostly seen in blue large cities like NYC, Boston, San Francisco as well as tech hubs like Dallas and San Jose.

The main impact of illegal immigration is country wide and hits industries like construction, manufacturing, transportation, agriculture, hospitality, general services, retail. Etc.

If you were a politician which would be a bigger problem for you to solve, the issue that impacts almost every industry that the majority of your voters work and compete for jobs in or the issue that impacts fewer industries mainly concentrated in the blue cities that voted for your opponent?

Luckily, Trump isnt a politician and decided to try to solve both problems as quickly as possible. The border is secured, no illegals have been allowed to enter the country in 6 months. (1 to 1.5m fewer illegals to take jobs). On the H1b visa front he increased fee to $100k, launched operation firewall to crackdown on fraudulent use of the visa with more than 200 current active investigations ongoing and the dept of labor is rewriting the rules to increase the wages companies need to pay H1b visa holders ending the "cheap labor" loophole. Sadly, those fixes to H1B visa program, unlike the border, won't be seen until next year giving the anti trumpers months to play pretend and attack him on H1b visas.
https://x.com/unseen1_unseen/status/1992900977372844328?s=20

Key Trends in the Graph
• Early 2000s Surge: Approvals peaked in 2002–2003 near 200,000 due to tech expansion and relaxed caps.
• Mid-2000s Dip: Approvals dropped sharply after the dot-com bust and tighter quotas.
• 2010s Recovery: Steady growth resumed, with approvals rising from ~110,000 in 2009 to ~190,000 by 2018.
• 2020–2025 Stability: Despite COVID and political shifts, approvals remained near 185,000–198,000 annually.

🧠 What Drives These Numbers
• Quota Caps: The annual cap for new H-1Bs is 85,000 (65K regular + 20K for U.S. grads), but renewals and exemptions push total approvals higher.
• Tech Demand: Major employers like Amazon, Google, and Infosys drive demand for software engineers and data scientists.
• Policy Changes: Presidential administrations influence visa scrutiny, lottery rules, and employer compliance.

Only Congress can reduce the number of H1Bs

It should be the question of every incumbent and primary challenger alike: Reduce/eliminate H1Bs now to stay in office, or promise to if elected.

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Only Congress can reduce the number of H1Bs

It should be the question of every incumbent and primary challenger alike: Reduce/eliminate H1Bs now to stay in office, or promise to if elected.

No matter what they say prior to election, they will do what's in their interest post election.

Patrick says

Pausing, not stopping. Maybe for 10 minutes.

For good PR.

gabbar says

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Only Congress can reduce the number of H1Bs

It should be the question of every incumbent and primary challenger alike: Reduce/eliminate H1Bs now to stay in office, or promise to if elected.

No matter what they say prior to election, they will do what's in their interest post election.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Your government hates you.

https://capoliticalnewsandviews.com/no-us-citizens-meet-the-it-firms-discriminating-against-americans/

No US Citizens’: Meet the IT Firms Discriminating Against Americans

Today, it is OK to advertise a job, saying NO AMERICAN NEED TO APPLY.

“The job post for LanceSoft, an IT staffing firm committed to “diversity, equality, and inclusivity,” began innocently enough.

The $60-per-hour role would be based in Santa Clara, Calif., focus on “technical support,” and entail a 3–10 p.m. shift. Posted on Nvoids, an IT jobs aggregator, the ad described LanceSoft as an equal opportunity employer and said that the firm, one of the largest staffing agencies in the country, strives “to be as diverse as the clients and employees we partner with.”

“We embrace people of any race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, gender identity, and sexual orientation,” the Nov. 25 post read.

This particular job, however, would not be open to a very large group of people: citizens of the United States.

In a section titled “Visa requirement,” LanceSoft recruiter Riyaz Ansari wrote that “candidates must hold an active H1B visa”—and stated explicitly that American citizens need not apply.” ...

The Washington Free Beacon identified over two dozen job postings since 2024 that appear to bar applications from U.S. citizens. The posts were made on a variety of platforms, including Glassdoor and LinkedIn, and typically indicate a preference for H-1B visas, though some allow for other visa types as well. Several of the firms are minority-owned businesses, meaning they receive preferential access to government contracts even as they exclude U.S. workers.

Patrick says

There are about 15 podunk colleges which are at the risk of closing...and these colleges are recruiting any student from India etc. who is willing to pay out of state tuition fee...its a question of survival for these colleges.

gabbar says

its a question of survival for these colleges

If those colleges are a way for Indians to sneak in to the US, depress US wages, and displace US workers, then those colleges should not survive.

MolotovCocktail says

ReeEEEeee! I love it.

How could anybody DOOM right now?

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/us-embassy-india-attention-visa-applicants-if-you-have-received-an-email-/articleshow/125884312.cms#

Now applicants should go through social media vetting process!

Blue says

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/us-embassy-india-attention-visa-applicants-if-you-have-received-an-email-/articleshow/125884312.cms#

Now applicants should go through social media vetting process!

"In September this year, the US introduced a $1,00,000 annual fee"

$100,000 fee. What else did they get wrong?

I don't get it. Trump talks up H1-Bs, but then they do this. Not complaining. I love it, in fact.

They should open a visa processing center in McMurdo, Antarctica and require them to go there, too. :)

Blue says

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/us-embassy-india-attention-visa-applicants-if-you-have-received-an-email-/articleshow/125884312.cms#

Now applicants should go through social media vetting process!

The U.S. Department of State significantly expanded digital vetting for H-1B and H-4 visa applicants starting December 15, 2025, requiring them to set all social media profiles (like X, Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn) to "public" for consular review to check for security threats, inconsistencies with visa applications, or support for terrorism, a policy mirroring existing rules for student visas and increasing processing times and risks for H-1B workers.

What's New (Effective Dec 15, 2025)

Mandatory Public Profiles: All H-1B (skilled worker) and H-4 (dependent) applicants must make their social media accounts public for consular officers to review.

Scope of Review: Officers examine posts, comments, photos, affiliations, and professional profiles for potential red flags like anti-U.S. sentiment, links to terrorism, or efforts to steal tech info.

Consistency Check: Online info must match petition details (job, employer, dates, education); discrepancies can lead to delays or denials.

Dependent Impact: Posts by H-4 dependents can affect the principal H-1B worker's visa.
Why It's Happening

National Security: The State Department views every visa adjudication as a national security decision, using online vetting to identify threats.

Broader Enforcement: This expands existing vetting for F, M, and J (student/exchange visitor) visas and is part of wider immigration enforcement.

Trump Administration Initiative: This policy stems from efforts to tighten screening for skilled worker visas, notes Bloomberg Government News.
Impact on Applicants & Employers

Increased Delays: Expect longer visa stamping processes and administrative holds.

Higher Risk: International travel for H-1B holders becomes riskier due to potential scrutiny.

Employer Preparedness: Companies need to build flexibility into project schedules and advise employees to manage their online presence carefully, notes Seyfarth Shaw LLP, Fisher Phillips, and JD Supra, say JD Supra.