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2025 Oct 6, 5:14pm   7,895 views  1,488 comments

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( Previous Globull Warming threads were merged into this one on 7 Oct 2025. See https://patrick.net/post/1210872/2012-04-02-patrick-net-suggestions?start=624#comment-2213087 )

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1452   rocketjoe79   2025 Oct 20, 11:57pm  

Climate "Science" is still very compromised

https://phys.org/news/2025-10-southern-ocean-massive-burp.html

As soon as I saw a reference to the IPCC, my antennae were raised. So, maybe, in 70 years, the oceans will "burp" a bolus of CO2? Puh-leeze.

Modeling any chaotic system (like climate) is nearly a complete waste of CPU cycles. Best result is a vague blob of potential outcomes, possibly indicating the system boundaries. The three body problem (not the book) is the simplest example: take three planetary masses in relative motion. Predict the outcome after 10,000 orbits. Can't do it. Outcomes include collapse into a single mass, all the way to complete mass ejection from the system. Tiny changes (<1%) to initial conditions lead to wildly variable outcomes.

Another "test" of system climate modeling accuracy would be to take best-guess data from 100-200 years ago, use your model, predict current climate. Hmm, why has no one done these tests? Because the results would be laughable.

Go back and read the book by Michael Crichton "State of Fear", a readable novel debunking Climate Change from 2014. Still valid today.
1453   UveBeenNudged1   2025 Oct 21, 2:22am  

Diming the Sun:
"Controversial experiments exploring the science around reflecting sunlight with an aim to bring about global cooling have been announced. The Advanced Research and Innovation Agency (ARIA) - a government backed body - is funding nearly £60m that could allow real-world experiments, including in the UK." - BBC News















Ed Miliband, Secretary of State for Energy and Climate Change of the United Kingdom.


1457   stereotomy   2025 Oct 25, 9:41pm  

Rules for thee, but not for me . . .
1459   Patrick   2025 Oct 28, 9:07am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/green-old-scam-tuesday-october-28


In the wee hours of this morning, the alert overnight team at the New York Times ran an astonishing article headlined, “Bill Gates Says Climate Change ‘Will Not Lead to Humanity’s Demise.’” He’s changed his mind, evolved his position— pivoted. “Climate change will have serious consequences — particularly for people in the poorest countries — but it will not lead to humanity’s demise,” the Clippy software billionaire admitted in a newly published article.

Thus, the progressive purity spiral is now spinning up. For progressives, the only group that deserves more hatred than MAGA fascists is deserters. The Times’ liberal readers seethed with impotent rage in the article’s comments. ...

Bill’s memo was not linked by the Times; they were probably afraid of what its easily triggered regulars might do if they got a gander at the whole thing. It wasn’t hard to find though. The vaccine-pushing philanthropist has his own vanity news site called GatesNotes, upon which he disgorges his various late-night theories and ruminations. ...

In short (which does not do the voluminous about-face any justice), Gates said the best way to measure progress on climate is through human flourishing. “It’s time to put human welfare at the center of our climate strategies,” Gates wrote, “which includes reducing the Green Premium to zero.”

Zero! What Gates meant by “Green Premium” was the extra cost of green tech over things like coal plants and gas engines. So, in other words, the suddenly parsimonious Gates argued we shouldn’t use any climate solution that isn’t downright cheaper than the traditional alternative. Needless to say, if COP30 accepted this advice, it would wipe out 99% of the purpose for the stupid summit in the first place.

Gates next suggested climate worshippers stop being such negative ninnies and look at the long term, maybe like improving peoples’ lives —not with windmills and solar farms— but through genetically engineered food and vaccines and stuff:

Unfortunately, the doomsday outlook is causing much of the
climate community to focus too much on near-term emissions
goals, and it's diverting resources from the most effective things
we should be doing to improve life in a warming world.

It would be impolite to point out that, until about ten minutes ago, Bill Gates was one of the biggest doomcryers on the warming planet. Now, apparently, he’s decided that he is out. ...

None of this redeems Bill from his satanic excesses, like buying billions in Moderna stock right before the pandemic, then selling it all just before admitting the shots don’t work. The point is that something or someone yanked Bill’s leash— and he’s gotten right in line. Good doggie. ...

But why? And, why now? We can only speculate. USAID money isn’t flowing to Gates’ foundations and climate companies anymore, so now he must fund them with his own money. That’s one. He also has a great big Epstein problem that he’d prefer stay buried along with the International Mystery Man. That’s two. Chemtrail experiments will soon be shuttered for good. That’s three. And Gates can easily see Republicans holding the White House for 11 more years, so climate won’t be nearly as profitable as the old days, not if you count “profits” as free money extracted from taxpayers by witless progressive politicians and then laundered back to them through climate CEOs, ad infinitum.

Bill Gates is a great big canary in the lithium mine.
1460   MolotovCocktail   2025 Oct 28, 9:22am  

Patrick says

Bill Gates is a great big canary in the lithium mine.


Yup.


1461   HeadSet   2025 Oct 29, 9:00am  

Patrick says

But why? And, why now? We can only speculate. USAID money isn’t flowing to Gates’ foundations and climate companies anymore, so now he must fund them with his own money. That’s one. He also has a great big Epstein problem that he’d prefer stay buried along with the International Mystery Man. That’s two. Chemtrail experiments will soon be shuttered for good. That’s three. And Gates can easily see Republicans holding the White House for 11 more years, so climate won’t be nearly as profitable as the old days, not if you count “profits” as free money extracted from taxpayers by witless progressive politicians and then laundered back to them through climate CEOs, ad infinitum.

Also Gates is into AI, which has very high power requirements. Would not want a data center refused because local greenies were able to stop any new power plants from being built. AI is the "human welfare" he does not want environmentalism to deter.
1463   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 6, 5:29pm  

AP Busted for depending on a source that manufactures plant-based pet food - but not mentioning that in the article.

1464   Onvacation   2025 Nov 7, 1:58pm  

rocketjoe79 says

Go back and read the book by Michael Crichton "State of Fear", a readable novel debunking Climate Change from 2014. Still valid today.

From 2004, but a great book.
1465   Ceffer   2025 Nov 7, 2:59pm  

I take back what I said about Global Warming. Green measures are not only designed to fail, they are designed to pollute, toxify, poison and blow up on command. I retract my previous position that they were only designed to fail.

1468   Ceffer   2025 Nov 12, 10:48am  

Nero Newscum is the new Pied Piper (with bizarre zombie Edmund Muskie) of the International Globalist Communist Feudalism Movement known as 'Global Warming'.

Enlist the stupids to agree with virtue signaling that they should become fertilizer because of a massive guilt trip that they consume resources. All of the Globalist crimes are described as Global Warming phenomena (problem, reaction, solution).

The psychopaths don't have guilt trips. They indoctrinate guilt in the susceptible and weaponize it. They get the stupid sheeples to yoga waltz into their crematoriums.

With military high level HAARP and DEW, they can turn any city into WWII Dresden in a matter of days. We are in the era of undeclared space wars disguised as weather.

1473   MolotovCocktail   2025 Nov 16, 10:16pm  

Ice Age Catastrophism iz back in biz, bitches!



https://youtu.be/NQSBn50o_8M?si=ALToN7RPSBtzpkc6
1478   The_Deplorable   2025 Nov 23, 9:20pm  

MolotovCocktail says





A couple of thoughts:
1. CO2 is not warming anything because the Earth is not emitting heat energy at the frequency that CO2 absorbs - about 18 microns.
2. CO2 is the gas of life. Without CO2 there is no photosynthesis, no plants, no animals and this is a dead planet.
1479   HeadSet   2025 Nov 24, 6:29am  

The_Deplorable says

CO2 is not warming anything because the Earth is not emitting heat energy at the frequency that CO2 absorbs - about 18 microns.

If the Earth is retaining the heat that CO2 absorbs, wouldn't that mean the planet is warming? Even so, CO2 is such a trace element that even if it absorbed heat it would have a negligible effect on global temperatures. Besides, "18 microns" is a wavelength, not a frequency.
1480   stereotomy   2025 Nov 24, 8:26am  

Water vapor is one to two orders of magnitude more potent than CO2 as far as warming is concerned.

I think globohomo is harping on CO2 so that plant growth can be starved and thereby kill off 90% of the population.
1481   HeadSet   2025 Nov 24, 2:18pm  

stereotomy says

I think globohomo is harping on CO2 so that plant growth can be starved and thereby kill off 90% of the population.

I think it is more about power. Controlling CO2 means controlling all transportation, energy, and almost any other useful activity.
1482   The_Deplorable   2025 Nov 24, 4:28pm  

HeadSet says
"Besides, "18 microns" is a wavelength, not a frequency."

Frequency and wavelength are related - They have an inverse relationship.
1483   The_Deplorable   2025 Nov 24, 4:38pm  

HeadSet says
"If the Earth is retaining the heat that CO2 absorbs, wouldn't that mean the planet is warming?"

No. CO2 does not absorb any heat and therefore the Earth is not retaining any heat. Given that
the Earth Temperature is about 59°F then the Earth is radiating unimpeded into space at 10 microns.

PROOF: During the Paleozoic, Earth experienced an Ice Age for 40 million years at a CO2
level of 4,200 ppm. And that high amount of CO2 did not prevent the Ice Age from happening.
Therefore CO2 is not warming anything.
1484   HeadSet   2025 Nov 24, 4:44pm  

The_Deplorable says

HeadSet says

"Besides, "18 microns" is a wavelength, not a frequency."

Frequency and wavelength are related - They have an inverse relationship.

Of course they do, but still do not mix up the terms.
1485   HeadSet   2025 Nov 24, 4:47pm  

The_Deplorable says

HeadSet says

"If the Earth is retaining the heat that CO2 absorbs, wouldn't that mean the planet is warming?"

No. CO2 does not absorb any heat and therefore the Earth is not retaining any heat. Given that
the Earth Temperature is about 59°F then the Earth is radiating unimpeded into space at 10 microns.

PROOF: During the Paleozoic, Earth experienced an Ice Age for 40 million years at a CO2
level of 4,200 ppm. And that high amount of CO2 did not prevent the Ice Age from happening.
Therefore CO2 is not warming anything.

We agree here. I misread your original post.
1488   Patrick   2025 Dec 3, 9:06pm  

MolotovCocktail says






I read Lomborg's book The Skeptical Environmentalist when it came out in 2001. It was the beginning of my recovery from being a standard-issue Democrat.

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