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Santa Barbara Realtors 'Refuse' To Share Data


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2006 Jan 30, 10:52am   17,817 views  146 comments

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Santa Barbara News-Press
http://www.newspress.com/Top/Article/article.jsp?Section=BUSINESS&ID=564670840248074386

4th paragraph:

"Over the past several years, the News-Press has obtained sales and median price data for the South Coast from the Santa Barbara Association of Realtors. The group recently told the News-Press that it now refuses to make this data available to the newsroom. Other associations of Realtors across the county willingly continue to share sales and price information with the paper."

"Please ignore the man behind the curtain"
"These are not the numbers you're looking for"
"Nothing to see here, folks, move along..."

#housing

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132   jeffolie   2006 Feb 1, 3:25am  

High energy prices in Europe have not created viable alternatives. In Briton where gas goes for something like $5 a gallon, where are the alternative energy sources breakthroughs that make a real difference?

Alternatives are pie ala mode for the future. Pie in the sky will not run our industries now or in the intermediate future.

133   HARM   2006 Feb 1, 3:27am  

@SFWoman,

For definition on Internet Troll, see my above post from January 31st, 2006 at 3:22 pm.

I agree that bubble-myopia has induced a pollyanna-ish inability to connect reason to what they see around them. But this is the way it has always been during every asset bubble, from the Dutch Tulip Bubble, to the South Sea Bubble, to Dot.com to now. Speculative euphoria takes hold of the collective psyche in a way that mystifies non-believers.

For some good in depth analysis, I recommend "Devil Take the Hindmost: A History of Financial Speculation", "A Short History of Financial Euphoria" and Shiller's "Irrational Exuberance".

This is totally OT, but do you swear?

134   Randy H   2006 Feb 1, 3:41am  

In Briton where gas goes for something like $5 a gallon, where are the alternative energy sources breakthroughs that make a real difference?

I read (in the Eonomist?) a couple years back a study that showed that, if you exclude Nuclear (the renewed interest in Nuclear had not appeared at the time of the study), the price point for gasoline would need to be something close to $28/US Gallon to make non-nuke alternatives cost efficient. I forget the analysis including nuke, but it was below $10 per gallon.

135   HARM   2006 Feb 1, 3:46am  

Robert Cote,

I'm no Euro-phile, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Europe get a lot more of their energy (esp. electricity) from alternative sources, inlcuding nuclear? I've seen stats that say France is getting 75% of their electricity from nuclear alone.

Agree with you in general about taxes skewing the costs, though. If it costs $1.60 a gallon for producers to bring gas to the market, then that's the baseline that alternative fuels must match or beat. Of course, European governments have also known to heavily subsidize said alternative fuels, which would skew that baseline somewhat.

136   Peter P   2006 Feb 1, 3:48am  

Few weak sellers’ supply will be met with legitimate demand in top half of zip codes in SF. Less overbidding in SF, but still overbidding and still pent up demand.

Of course, real estates always go up. There are not making any more land. :)

137   surfer-x   2006 Feb 1, 3:52am  

Mr. Right, Dec. -12% in SLO. Bbaaahahahahhahahahahahahha

However I am sure that most if not all of the SLO elite, such as yourself, are well insulated from such "seasonal fluctuations".

As I am not a weatherman, are there seasons in SLO? I thought they outsourced them to Idaho.

138   HARM   2006 Feb 1, 4:05am  

DinOR / Linda,

Can we call a truce here?

139   jeffolie   2006 Feb 1, 5:21am  

barnum

Real Estate bubbles do bust. It is not naive to review recent events:

December 1996: The IMF praises the Thai Government’s ‘consistent record for sound macro-economic management policies’.

July-1997: Thai property companies get into difficulties after a real-estate bubble bursts, wiping a third of the value off the stock market and leading to the collapse of the banks which backed them. Foreign investors lose confidence and start pulling out. The Thai currency’s peg to the dollar wobbles. Currency speculators move in for a killing. The Thai baht is floated and the currencies of the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia and South Korea also suffer. A wave of devaluations follow, triggering a massive haemorrhage of funds as panicky foreign investors sell up their stocks and bonds. The economies of Thailand, Indonesia, South Korea and the Philippines go into free fall.

December 1997: By now millions are without work and decades of social and economic progress have been thrown into reverse. Of 282 firms on the Indonesian stock market only 22 are technically solvent.

140   Peter P   2006 Feb 1, 6:01am  

So my advice to you would be to use your Development experience along with the CFA to move toward a more financially-oriented software company. There are a lot of them. And the key is that you don’t want to do purely Dev work, you will also need to get your hands a bit dirtier and delve into operations and/or consulting.

SFRenter, thanks for your advice. I will look into it. :)

141   Peter P   2006 Feb 1, 6:07am  

Go try and buy a SFH for under $1M in a top 10 zip code.
94123
94133
94127
94118
94114
94121
94131
94117
94103
94116

You can have these ZIP codes. Didn't I say that there is no bubble for homes above 2M or so?

142   Peter P   2006 Feb 1, 6:13am  

Truce accepted. DinOr can come over anytime for an inspection.

Can we use your house for the next blog party? ;)

143   Peter P   2006 Feb 1, 6:21am  

What’s a blog party?

Just a get together. Usually, we do that in a restaurant.

144   Randy H   2006 Feb 1, 7:13am  

I’m no Euro-phile, and please correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t Europe get a lot more of their energy (esp. electricity) from alternative sources, inlcuding nuclear? I’ve seen stats that say France is getting 75% of their electricity from nuclear alone.

France is an exception within Europe (excluding Russia). They are the modern-world leaders in nuclear energy, and they continue to support its further development widely. They, for some reason, established a strong cultural acceptance whereas everywhere else (US included) developed a strong revulsion against nuclear.

Germany, for example, is executing a plan to decomission all nuke power within the next 20-25 years. This is *very* popular amongst the people. Even the recent natural gas crises caused by Russia has not jolted the German people into reconsidering shutting off their only alternative. In fact, when their energy minister suggested a delay in the plan, there was a near revolt within his own party (and these are the conservatives).

Europe does have much more advanced wind energy. But this isn't even 2% of the production in Germany (when I last read). Some smaller countries produce more from wind, but they're *small*, we're not, nor is Germany, UK, Spain, Italy, etc.

145   Randy H   2006 Feb 1, 7:18am  

Add to that the popular sport of "demonizing" nuclear power here in the US. Hell, I walked past my wife Tivoing "The West Wing" last week and I almost wrenched to see yet another big bad nuclear boggyman disguised as entertainment piece. If nuclear power is so dangerous, then statistically why aren't all the French dead, given the density of nuclear reactors is 10,000X that here in the US?

146   Peter P   2006 Feb 1, 7:47am  

I am a supporter of nuclear energy, I do not mind if they put a nuclear power plant in the Bay Area (they need to find a way around the earthquakes though).

Nuclear waste is a valid concern, but I think we can find enough sites for storage before we move on to fusion power.

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