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Nomad,

Please notice that I specifically exempted people like your parents, who own their own land. I was thinking about the overall economics of apartments vs. economics of trailers. It seems to me that in suburban areas, apartments are more cost efficient to run than trailers. I wasn’t railing out against trailer dwellers, I just can’t see how suburban trailer parks made any sense unless the costs are very low.

Incidentally, my boyfriend and I were contemplating about buying a used RV to live in. Apparently, there are some free parking areas in the BA and some people on fatwallets.com claim this was the cheapest way to live in the BA. I’d say all the benefits of trailer living and you can move your home if someone kicks you out. It was finally dismissed for being a little too absurdist.

Skibum,

I remember last summer there were a crop of million dollar trailer stories. These were in Malibu trailer parks owned by someone else. I laughed my ass off.

Re: straw houses, HARM kindly provided some links that I’m reposting:

http://www.dsaarch.com/
http://www.strawbuilding.org/
http://www.buildinggreen.com/auth/article.cfm?fileName=040301a.xml
http://www.skillful-means.com/menupages/strawbaletips.html

From what I read, straw houses do not burn easily. They are less likely to burn than all but concrete, adobe, and metal shelled houses. Straw is high in silica, which is a flame suppressant. Tightly packed straw doesn’t have enough oxygen to cause a problem.

SFWoman,

They should try selling your example Tuscan McVilla to Chinese investors, there will be takers :P

Linda,

Have you considered adobe as an alternative to straw? It might be a bit more expensive to build, but it has similar good insulation qualities and there's no question of combustibility

SQT,

Thanks, I guess wordpress thought I had too many links for one post.

SQT: I think it had gotten approved before then, as it now appears back on the page. (Same link that Linda came up with, actually.)

there’s no question of combustibility

When all houses are fire-proof, firemen will have nothing to do but to burn books. :-P

Sounds like Peter P's been reading some forbidden literature.

Sounds like Peter P’s been reading some forbidden literature.

I am Patrick Killelea's "Bay Area Housing Crash Continues".

10023. Million dollar trailers. check.

guys,

I'm going to post my first thread here. It'll be on post asking for thoughts on post-crash economics and job opportunities. Let me know that sounds okay.

I’m going to post my first thread here. It’ll be on post asking for thoughts on post-crash economics and job opportunities. Let me know that sounds okay.

Just post it. Never ask. Anything is better than "Huh?"

My daughter used to have a silly game with a crystal ball called “Ask Zandar,” perhaps we should question a crystal ball?

I have more faith in the stars.

Or perhaps a crystal ball called "Ask Zillow".

new thread: Business and the economy in the post bubble world

“homedeptor”????

Alright...So I mispelled a word..... "astrid"????

well, I thought you were intentionally trying to poke fun at somebody

"Yes, the tweakers have presented a problem for my friend in the trailer park biz.(or mobile home parks, as he calls them)"

In commercial lending we call them "Manufactured Home Communities"...

HARM, please delete the troll, mustly let them fester. "flowergirl" anyone that posts that maggot troll gibberish, ie, mls listings from SF should be shot. As we cannot shoot them, we can only delete them.

tanks.

"In commercial lending we call them “Manufactured Home Communities”…"

FAB, I hope I don't come across as completely ignorant, but I'm curious what sort of interests lead to "mfgr home communities"? Given how hard it is to move the trailers around, this sort of split ownership seems like a bum deal, particularly for the trailer owners. They're placing their immobile property in a place and betting that the mfgr home community will continue to be affordable and will not be slated for more lucrative developments(which seems like an easy temptation given the low cost of preexisting infrastructure).

Are these places considerably cheaper to run compared to apartments and thus produce enough economic benefits for both the trailer owner and the trailer park owner?

Are these places considerably cheaper to run compared to apartments and thus produce enough economic benefits for both the trailer owner and the trailer park owner?

We should just make apartments more appealing. Why should they even have things like "on-site laundry facilities"? I thought it is the 21st century!