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The debate Trump would have with Bernie is the debate America has been having with "capitalism" vs socialism..

Our system is currently so corrupt the the term "Crony Capitalism" describes it. The interest of government is business and not the people they "represent". I would like to think that some of the people in government are genuine and sincerely want to MAGA but reality points to the continuation of the ponzi scheme we call an economy and the unprosecuted corruption in all levels of government.

I hope Trump is not just another actor on the stage of the political theatre. Ever notice how many actors end up politicians?

Capitalism or socialism? I vote for the one that let's me thrive from the sweat of my brow and the work of my hands not the one that stifles incentive with bureaucracy and impoverishes the masses.

If Bernie is the Nominee, then there's no doubt Trump wins Election.

I think I'll start manufacturing Blue Bernie caps that read: "Make America Venezuela Again!" Should be a sellout in NY and Cali.

Here I can't argue with HEYYOU as I am in full agreement...a sad day indeed.

HEYYOU says

"Disturbingly Black Snow Has Blanketed Several Towns in Siberia"

Must be the fault of ORANGEMANBAD

White army or Red army, comrade?

willywonka says

White army or Red army, comrade?

Don't you mean red or blue? Who ever decided that the dems get to be blue any way?

But I do like red, just not in my cars or motorcycles.

Notice that Trump is the first one to throw them out.

Onvacation says

willywonka says

White army or Red army, comrade?

Don't you mean red or blue? Who ever decided that the dems get to be blue any way?

But I do like red, just not in my cars or motorcycles.

I think willywonka was referring to the Russian 1917 situation, where "white" was the Republic. "red" was the commies.

NoCoupForYou says

If Bernie is the Nominee, then there's no doubt Trump wins Election.

Let me fix that for you - If Any Current Dem Contender is the Nominee, then there's no doubt Trump wins Election.

Bernie Sanders is literally the most deeply honest human being I've ever met.

He's honest when it costs him politically.

He did not and would not say a woman cannot be President.

He has said clearly today that he did not say it.

He has said the opposite since I was a child.

— Shaun King (@shaunking) January 14, 2020

HeadSet says

I think willywonka was referring to the Russian 1917 situation, where "white" was the Republic. "red" was the commies.

Ya think?
I don't think there will be a shooting war in America. At least not until the blues (reds) take away some of the reds (whites) guns. See the confusion the dems have caused by claiming blue?

So let's eliminate it right? Oh wait, isn't that the air plants need to live..?

If co2 is such a potent heat trapping gas why has the planet stopped warming?
Suicidal people want to eliminate the generation of co2 and kill all of the plants and animals in the world.

I heard from a co-worker that solar flares, or the activity of the sun hasn't been part of the calculation for planet temperature, but they are working on incorporating that data in. How can you know whether the earth is warming or cooling without the sun!?

Time to stop just talking and take action.

Stop 3rd world immigration to 1st world, let the 1st World population stabilize to a population sustainable by the ever growing renewables, and stop imports from nations like China with lax pollution laws. Vote Trump.

Wow, Avenatti can now join Clinton in the "Disbarred Club."

Onvacation says

If co2 is such a potent heat trapping gas why has the planet stopped warming?
Suicidal people want to eliminate the generation of co2 and kill all of the plants and animals in the world.

Research can prevent one from looking like a fool.

You linked article was just an attempt to dig up "quid pro quo" with Ivanka and prior business dealings with China. Even that article says Ivanka shut down the line and does not know when it will be restarted.

Reading ones own links can prevent one from looking like a fool.

jazz_music says

Trump's reaction to the appointment of special counsel Robert Mueller: "This is the end of my presidency, I'm fucked."

Trump's reaction to the actual Mueller Report Findings: "I'm fine"

jazz_music says

Trump's reaction to the appointment of special counsel Robert Mueller: "This is the end of my presidency, I'm fucked."

I've been hearing this for about 2.5 years now, with no tangible results whatsoever.

Don't want tRUMP as president - put forward a viable and reasonable candidate. This is the only way. However, this ain't gonna happen - we will have a pseudo-Native American running, or someone who thinks that Venezuela is the pillar of success which US of A should emulate.

jazz_music says

Better to dismantle the broadcast liars that preyed on fears and hate that made Trump possible in the first place.

The people shall be well informed not disinformed into cult servitude by billion dollar liar barrages.

How can CNN and PMSNBC and NYT and WaPo do more to "inform" the Public? They're already at max shrill shill level.

Remember Hillary's 95%+ chance to win on the NYT Election Day site?

I'd be more worried about complete Democrat Morale Collapse. There is almost no excitement for the Primary.

jazz_music says

the harm Trump’s administration is causing

On a balance, it is not causing more harm than previous administrations (Bush, Obama), and probably less. Would be nice to not have a narcissist with ADD as president, but we can not have everything.

HeadSet says

Time to stop just talking and take action.

THIS.
Tell people worrying about CO2 to bike to work, to avoid using AC in summer, to avoid air travel, and to stop having children.

Heraclitusstudent says

Onvacation says

If co2 is such a potent heat trapping gas why has the planet stopped warming?
Suicidal people want to eliminate the generation of co2 and kill all of the plants and animals in the world.

Do you deny that co2 is good for life and less co2 is bad for life?

Co2 continues to rise and the rise in temperature over the last century is less than happens in the first couple of minutes after sunrise.

I am all for stopping pollution but please stop scaring the kids. They are growing up to be socialists.

Can any alarmist change the weather? What makes them think they can change the climate by banning air travel and cow farts?

Then why I am always so fucking cold? And how does that have meaning when the sun has been the quietest in a century? Are we heating the world on farts now?

What makes them think they can change the climate by banning air travel and cow farts?

No, but we can mitigate pollution by stabilizing the 1st World population to a level sustainable by renewables, and stooping imports from countries that have lax pollution laws. People forget all about resource depletion, farm runoff that pollutes bays and rivers, and plain old air pollution. "Carbon" is purely political.

HeadSet says

No, but we can mitigate pollution by stabilizing the 1st World population to a level sustainable by renewables, and stooping imports from countries that have lax pollution laws.

And prohibiting climate change warriors from using cars, airplanes, and air conditioning.

rd6B says

HeadSet says

No, but we can mitigate pollution by stabilizing the 1st World population to a level sustainable by renewables, and stooping imports from countries that have lax pollution laws.

And prohibiting climate change warriors from using cars, airplanes, and air conditioning.

And mobile devices. A network of old style land-line phones uses a fraction of the power that radio based mobile phones networks use.

HEYYOU says

"If I had balls,I wouldn't let Republicans lick 'em!"

I guess you will have to lick them instead.

:
FUCK TRUMP !

Epic thread !

jazz_music says

“Trump is in an unethical league all his own“

This is obviously true. The thing that's unclear to me, and I think it's even unclear to the cucks themselves is this.

Is it that they just don't care, and are basically by nature just as unethical as Trump ?

Or is it that on some level, they get who he is, and they do really have a problem with the guy, but they fantasize that it's somehow "worth it."

(note: "Worth it" could be because they buy into his sales pitch or any number of other supposed benefits they have bought in to that supposedly justify having this asshole as our leader. Perhaps it's a 'the end justifies the means' reasoning. In other words if destroying the parts of democracy and the constitution that they don't like requires having a Trump like character in power for a while, then they reason, "I guess that's what it takes.")

From what I have gathered, there are some people that are far better at lying to themselves and everyone else than others. Apparently lying is a life skill that really pays off bigly for some people. Of course these people don't fathom the downside. Not even a little.

For such people, in many cases, Trump is their kind of peeps. He gets it ! "You feel me ?"

Who's more corrupt, Hillary or Trump? Not expecting an answer, cogent or otherwise. Dodged a bullet when we elected Donald.

marcus says

This is obviously true.

Except you cant explain why or back up a single claim w facts. Orange man bad orange man bad orange man bad!

jazz_music says

Watch Trump can’t keep his lying straight

www.youtube.com/embed/H9HY7Aw_jdU

“Trump is in an unethical league all his own“

What specific quote do you feel is a lie? Is it "Putin called me" OR "I dont know putin" in response to a question about collusion w putin.

The funny thing is you think these statements are contradictory.

ORANGE MAN BAD ORANGE MAN BAD ORANGE MAN BAD

Onvacation says

Who's more corrupt, Hillary or Trump? Not expecting an answer, cogent or otherwise. Dodged a bullet when we elected Donald.

A better question is, who has done more harm and whose actions have resulted in more American deaths, GW Bush with his Iraq lies or trump's lies, which usually are centered around him stroking his oversized ego? And why do we have 100 times more ORANGEMANBAD in media than we had BUSH BAD provided that Bush is personally responsible for deaths of more than 4000 American servicemen, while tRUMP can at most be held responsible for concussion of a dozen soldiers?

AF, you are getting mildly repetitive. I am hearing this for last 3 years now, and I have some confidence that we will hear this for next 5 as well.

Trump is the Saturn of Corruption! A Gas Giant surrounded by endless rings of invasive, orbiting crime!