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"I don't stand by anything" has to be one of his greatest word sequences to date.

I don't think that the thread title is accurate. Spicey pants said effectively said:

Trump was asked to consider raising the gas tax, and he said that he would consider it.

Tim Aurora says

Democrats never had the guts to embrace it but that one policy has many advantages

Meanwhile, democrats tried to get this done in 2015, and met resistance from Republicans.

In any case, I'm all for it as stated in other threads. If he decides to try and can get it done, it would be a step in the right direction.

Perfect.
Give the media the attention they deserve.
No one else could have done it better...

Wait, I'm losing track of the narrative.

The NYT and others who ran multiple articles bragging that the Deep State was putting Trump Team in it's place and had (their words) "Wiretapped communications" (which implies a recorded conversation, therefore a wiretap in colloquial usage), criticized Trump's tweet about it, then admitted Rice captured at least Trump Team members and was sure to keep the the individuals' names who had "unintentionally captured conversations" unredacted before distributing to 17 different agencies to maximize leak potential. The non-standard unmasking and leaking happened during Obama's administration, and the buck stops with him. Indeed one of Obama's last EOs was to allow unmasked intel from FISA to be spread more widely. Now they are saying it never happened again?

Make up your minds, Media!

Bernie Sanders told him how to do it right.
I hope he didn't forget to threaten them like good Ole' Bernie.
"You got a good interview there, you got 10 minutes don't edit it to make me look bad!"(as Bernie rips off mic and walks off interview)

The medium is the message.

FAKE NEWS

I'm writing the biography of Trump's Presidency now.

It is titled 'Diary Of A Wimpy POTUS, Or, The Sound Of Fury Signifying Nothing, Or, All Hat And No Cattle."

How about. 'brokepromise mountain'

YesYNot says

Meanwhile, democrats tried to get this done in 2015, and met resistance from Republicans.

Who said it'll go trough this time?

Trump did the US a huge service by making FISA warrant courts and rampant intelligence overreach a household issue. Obama just used the powers available to him, the same as Trump will do with the 1984 tyranny machine. This is not a partisan issue, but the dems are so far up CNN's butt that they cant see past Trump.

NSA ends controversial email collection program.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/national-security-agency-ends-controversial-email-collection-program/story?id=47094647

anonymous says

If it goes for the intended purpose (basic Infrastructure repair/upgrade and not to consultants, studies, and typical government boondoggles)

ROTFLMAO.

Everybody should wear secretary glasses.

million shares is a nice dollar volume going up, too bad when the trap closes the volume goes away . . .

still, this is a possible double still I guess.

went from $130 in the red to $240 in the black, yeay

It needs to be a tax on foreign oil most of all.

That would raise revenue, encourage American oil production, and reduce our dependence on the source of terrorism.

BlueSardine says

Damn, it took 287 posts to get a straight answer to a simple question...

Hater says

WobblyMolly says

If CO2 level reaches 450ppm, then that's a serious problem.

What happens?

This carbon concentration can cause continuous warming until we can't sustain it anymore. It seems like we are running out of time to keep the level of CO2 below 400 ppm

Donald Trump spent a year saying that NAFTA was the worse trade agreement ever. Now he's for staying in NAFTA. He conned you.

www.youtube.com/embed/okzRqADkzws

A man with bigger hands would have ended NAFTA.

jazz music says

All the other countries that have a high standard of living like we did before Reagan came along have strong unions, lower inequality and good access to health care.

You are more than welcome to live in those "paradises" and not America. But you won't, because those places suck if you actually work and live there. Now if you can take American earnings and spend in those countries, sure it makes sense. But you can't have it both ways, you liberals love to eat the cake and have it too.

From my days working at Schwab long ago, I know that the worst performing stocks are those rated "strong buy" by the analysts (yes, really, it's the best negative indicator). The second worst are those rated "strong sell".

The best performing stocks are those rated hold, or not rated at all. So by this indication, ARLP has good prospects. Would be better if it had a slightly lower analyst rating, but at least it's not "strong buy".

If this is the price of "Free Speech ", what value does free speech have?

FortWayne says

jazz music says

All the other countries that have a high standard of living like we did before Reagan came along have strong unions, lower inequality and good access to health care.

You are more than welcome to live in those "paradises" and not America. But you won't, because those places suck if you actually work and live there.

The standard moronic reply.

Hey, FortWayne, I am a socialist and think America has a fucked up idiotic system (political, tax, health care, educational, etc.). But I like living here. The place is abundant with the likes of you, which gives me competitive advantage. Pretty, pretty good in a winner takes all society.

rando says

From my days working at Schwab long ago, I know that the worst performing stocks are those rated "strong buy" by the analysts (yes, really, it's the best negative indicator). The second worst are those rated "strong sell".

The best performing stocks are those rated hold, or not rated at all. So by this indication, ARLP has good prospects. Would be better if it had a slightly lower analyst rating, but at least it's not "strong buy".

I m not so sure about that assessment. Apple has been a strong buy since around 115...and its 147 now. Outperforming the market by far.
I see a lot of strong buys for ARLP...

It was just statistically true, not an absolute rule.

So they can't help you either then.

Support for Trump is not entirely irrational. Did you read this one? https://patrick.net/1305439/2017-04-27-dems-need-to-abandon-davos-ideology

Hater says

How much time do you suppose we have left?

Do you think that you will be saved from the damages of climate change, because you believe in Jesus?

Hater says

Are you a denier?

Of what? Hater says

believe in science?

What do you mean by this? Hater says

The true believers think all of the skeptics are bible thumping fundamentalists

Did you miss the question mark? Is that why you didn't answer the question?

rando says

It was just statistically true, not an absolute rule.

right

Boosting the cap from 66,000 to 135,000 would please the business community and infuriate many labor activists and anti-immigration hardliners who have long argued that businesses exploit the H-2B program to undercut American workers. It may never happen—the authority to expand the program lies with the secretary of homeland security, and it's hard to imagine the Trump administration throwing open the door to tens of thousands of new foreign workers. But he now has that power.

Sounds like Congress put that in there, not Trump.

The Trumptards got played like crack-whores and should put a quarter in their asses.

It will be interesting to see the reflexive, brainless, thoughtless defense of Trumpibula by the likes of Ironman (Trump ball cuck) and especially, Patrick.

Hater says

The kids are smarter than you think.

Do you know what an exponential curve is and what the mathematical relationship is that when solved leads to exponential growth?

For the record, I don't think that temperature will continue along an exponential curve, but...

Hater says

It's not. Two degrees in a century.

This is not an argument against it.

Hater says

The temp might go up some. It might fall. The sun goes through natural cycles and puts off more or less heat.

Neither is this. If you showed that the sun was going through a huge cycle that lead to a huge temperature change over the last 150 years (2 degrees over that time frame is big), this might have some validity.

Hillary Clinton would have done the same thing! Therefore, Trump is da man.

I'd rather leave it up to the thread owners to individually ban Ironman if they agree. Then it's the democratic will of the site members, and not just a dictatorial decision by me.

Yes, he's consistently an inflammatory asshole, but he's not spamming, advocating violence, or posting child porn. He's just being an asshole and that is kinda the nature of anonymous online forums. Personal attacks should be sent to comment jail.

The guy is from New Jersey, so maybe he doesn't know any other way of interacting.

It's H1-B that people give a crap about. A few ten thousand unskilled visas is not big deal; it's the hundreds of thousands of middle class visa via H1Bs that are a problem.

In any case, this is just a spending bill for this year, to kick the real budget down the road.

I could also turn this around and ask why "The Resistance" is getting so bothered and angry when the temporary spending bill funds pretty much everything the same as it ever was.

That all being said, it's time for Ryan to go.

it's the hundreds of thousands of middle class visa via H1Bs that are a problem.

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Is the cap still 65k per year?

Voters consistently vote against their self-interests, in this duopoly two-party asinine political system we have, and as fucked up as the Democratic Party is (and it VERY FUCKED UP ON AN ENORMOUS SCALE AND AT A MASSIVE, IRRATIONAL LEVEL), Republican Party has by far perfected the rhetoric and tactics to get their adherents to more often and more fervently vote against their self-interests.

The current Democratic Party is in shambles, assuming it's anything other than designed and built for coastal elites (which it is, unfortunately), but the current Republican Party is an absolutely greater travesty, assuming it's anything other than designed and built for an oligarch corporate system (a Corpocracy) whereby laws are written to ensure 98% of any gains in GDP continue to flow to top 1/2 of one percent (0.05% for you math whizs), and to ensure that former functions of the what was a basic social safety net to keep many people from imploding in youth, mid-life or old-age are also privatized in order to appease the altar of corporate (Corpocracy) profit, which is now more sacred than human life, morality or basic decency in a nation that used to have a nationalistic social contract with its citizens (where individuals had at least some degree of value relative to corporations).

We need to completely dismantle the two-party duopoly, strip the elite and their management class bureaucrat minions of their absolute power, and go to something closer to a fractional parliamentary system, but importantly, also have much more citizen empowerment, while breaking up the corporate oligopoly while prohibiting corporate funding of political campaigns (Citizens United is demon spawn).

"It's H1-B that people give a crap about. A few ten thousand unskilled visas is not big deal; it's the hundreds of thousands of middle class visa via H1Bs that are a problem. In any case, this is just a spending bill for this year, to kick the real budget down the road. I could also turn this around and ask why "The Resistance" is getting so bothered and angry when the temporary spending bill funds pretty much everything the same as it ever was. That all being said, it's time for Ryan to go"

Because it's yet another example of Trump being exposed as the used car salesman that he is. Is this what he promised all the coal miners in PA or the unskilled workers in Michigan and Wisconsin? That he'd bring in more unskilled immigrants to compete with them for the few remaining factory jobs? I thought it was the Dems that abandoned labor?

Only the dumbest motherfucker- even the dumb asses who voted for him - haven't yet, finally realized that Trump is so full of shit that it's coming out his ears.

It's also obvious to all but the brain dead that Trump is so far in over his head that every American (and many world citizens) should be deeply, deeply worried now.

Hater says

You disagree with the Duck?

I have what I would call a minor disagreement with him, and started a thread that gave him and anyone else an opportunity to discuss it.
Hater says

I thought all of you alarmists were on the same page?

I'm guessing that this is a self deprecating joke considering your earlier remark on 'true believers' assuming that all 'skeptics' were Christian fundamentalists.

Hell may deport much more than 70K over and above what Obama was doing. Anybody have the figures so far?