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83803   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 5:57pm  

Name one thing other than religion that I have proposed banning. Oh, and don't tell me you aren't for banning some religions like the Islamic ones.

Religion and liberty are mutually exclusive, and if I have to choose between freedom of religion, which we have never had, and free of speech, I'll choose the later. I would ban religion, not because I hate it, but because it infringes upon our rights and freedoms.

But go ahead, and try to name something I don't like that I've proposed banning. There are lots of things I don't like: cowboy hats, speedos, toupee, breast implants, rap and hip hop, every single sport ever created, murder porn news, police dramas, soap operas, every Justin Beaver song.

So, name the things I've proposed banning. Name the things Noam Chomsky proposed banning. Can't do that, can you? Every single argument you have ever made has been a straw man. That is why we can be certain your position is weak.

83804   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 May 16, 5:57pm  

Yep, folks, keep bringing up that server. It is THE place to start if you want evidence of Russian Hacking, the only potential physical evidence known and accessible. Why doesn't the DNC turn it over? Why, how could these endless rumors of Russian Hacking benefit them more than coming to a firm conclusion about it one way or the other?

WaPo: Comey cleared Flynn back in January
http://archive.is/noZI5

83805   CBOEtrader   2017 May 16, 5:59pm  

marcus says

I don't see hysterics. I see another data point.

There is no data. There are no facts. Seeing something that isnt there is the literal definition of delusional.

83806   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 May 16, 6:01pm  

Rew says

OBAMA WIRE TAPPED TRUMP!

BENGHAZI!

BIRTH CERTIFICATE!

SECRET MUSLIM!

SHE SMELLS OF SULFUR AND DEATH!

Except, those claims were derided in the media, and whenever the media covered that, the sneering and mockery of those opinions were overwhelming.

Now almsot the Entire Legacy Media is peddling "SECRET RUSSIAN!" "THERE WERE NO WIRETAPS!" "TONS OF RUSSIAN MONEY BUT NOT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE!" "COMEY FIRING A CONSPIRACY!" like the Free Republic or American Thinker did with those other stories.

That's the difference.

83807   CBOEtrader   2017 May 16, 6:02pm  

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Yep, folks, keep bringing up that server. It is THE place to start if you want evidence of Russian Hacking, the only potential physical evidence known and accessible. Why doesn't the DNC turn it over? Why, how could these endless rumors of Russian Hacking benefit them more than coming to a firm conclusion about it one way or the other?

WaPo: Comey cleared Flynn back in January

http://archive.is/noZI5

Our independent investigators, aka the fbi, needs to start w the DNC server, seth rich, and anthony weiner. I'm sure once they are done with those investigations they'd be 100% sure about the russians.

Its a win-win for everyone.

83808   Ceffer   2017 May 16, 7:12pm  

Like the good ole days when they had to tell Reagan where to go all the time, point for him, and hope he would travel in a straight line.

However, Reagan was a Jolly Zheimer, and Trumpligula is a Blowhard Zheimer.

83809   Ceffer   2017 May 16, 7:22pm  

Let's just hope that Trumpligula doesn't think the red button is a butt plug.

83810   missing   2017 May 16, 9:13pm  

FortWayne says

Religion is a big one Danny. It's freedom of thought.

Indoctrinating children is not freedom of thought.

Education of children is mandatory, right? Religious teaching is the opposite of education. That is why I am for banning of teaching religion to children. Once adult, they are free to think and believe whatever they want.

83811   CBOEtrader   2017 May 16, 9:20pm  

errc says

What about your team? You guys banned Industrial Hemp, and Cannabis flowers that people need to use for medicine. God put these great plants on this Earth for us to use, and your team puts people in prison for using a flower that we were given by God.

I dont agree w this either, but lets not compare weed to the 1st amendment.

83812   CBOEtrader   2017 May 16, 9:23pm  

FP says

That is why I am for banning of teaching religion to children.

Trotsky would be proud.

"Anti-religious propaganda played a critical role in the persecutions, because they were used to develop attitudes of hostility against believers which could then lead to justifying their mistreatment." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_anti-religious_campaign_(1921%E2%80%9328)#Anti-Religious_Propaganda

83813   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 9:46pm  

FortWayne says

Religion is a big one Danny. It's freedom of thought. That's what you are banning.

Mindless delusions aren't freedom of thought. And don't tell me that you aren't in favor of banning Islam. You're also in favor of banning drugs like pot which literally are freedom of thought. So cut the hypocrisy.

Your false religion should not be a right, nonetheless a privileged religion. And yes, it's privilege not freedom to give tax exempt status to some religious institutes but not others. Does Wicca get tax exempt status?

FortWayne says

And it was your team that proposed banning "white males from voting".

A bold face lie. I don't remember Noam Chomsky ever suggesting anything remotely like that. That's your team, the conservatives. I don't care if your Shiite or Sunni, your still Muslim.

FortWayne says

Left also has been

Again, your team, not mine. Two factions of the same ideology just like Shiite and Sunni. Each faction hates the other, but its the same religion.

FP says

Indoctrinating children is not freedom of thought.

Agreed. It's the worse kind of child abuse.

83814   missing   2017 May 16, 9:50pm  

CBOEtrader says

Trotsky would be proud.

"Anti-religious propaganda played a critical role in the persecutions, because they were used to develop attitudes of hostility against believers which could then lead to justifying their mistreatment."

Trotsky was a smart person, but this quote has nothing to do with what I wrote.

BTW, eradicating religion was one of the good things the communists did.

83815   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 9:57pm  

No other mental illness is considered a right. Why should religion be?

83816   missing   2017 May 16, 10:02pm  

Dan8267 says

No other mental illness is considered a right. Why should religion be?

This is a good one. Although it is not really illness but early childhood indoctrination. One generation raised without religion will put the end to it.

83817   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 10:05pm  

The United States has NEVER had freedom of religion. It has only had a few highly privileged state-sponsored religions.

What if your religion advocates polygamy like the Mormons did? Oh, you have to stop that or the army won't protect you from invaders.

What if your religion marries off preteens to adults like Islam does? Nope, that doesn't go either.

What if your religion demands not paying taxes? Not a chance.

What if your religion demands secrecy and uses unbreakably encrypted communication? Opps, we can't have that.

What if religion forbids wearing clothes since the gods created you naked? Well, tough cookies.

What if your religion uses mind altering drugs like marijuana for spiritual visions? Nope, it's still against the law.

What if your religion is new? Nope, only religions created by people who died a long time ago are allowed.

Freedom of religion, my ass. It's privilege for a few fraudulent state-sponsored religions.

83818   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 10:07pm  

FP says

One generation raised without religion will put the end to it.

It's extremely rare for an adult not raised on religion to become religious as an adult. Religious propagation requires brainwashing children, who simply do not have the mental capacity to resist the brainwashing. This is why childhood indoctrination by religion is child abuse. It's no different that stoning a child with hard-core drugs.

83819   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 10:08pm  

CBOEtrader says

Anti-religious propaganda

Weigh the evil done in the name of religion to the evil done in the name of ending religion and there's no comparison. Religion is the cause of the greatest atrocities throughout history. To deny this is the most despicable of lies.

83820   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 10:10pm  

CBOEtrader says

Trotsky would be proud.

Hitler was a Christian, so I guess Hitler would be proud of you.

Playing the guilt by lose association game is damn easy to do.

83821   missing   2017 May 16, 10:13pm  

Dan8267 says

It's extremely rare for an adult not raised on religion to become religious as an adult.

Exactly! This is what I give as evidence that religion is nonsense.

83822   missing   2017 May 16, 10:19pm  

C'mon, Trotsky was a revolutionary who fought and made personal sacrifices for an ideal of a just society. Can't be compared to Hitler.

83823   Patrick   2017 May 16, 10:41pm  

Allege, allege, allege...

to assert without proof

83824   Heraclitusstudent   2017 May 16, 10:53pm  

There may be a link between Trump and Russians, but now here you have a narrative from the same establishment that bombarded you with the Iraq narrative: Hussein having chemical weapons is an unbearable risk for the US. The same establishment that took seriously the idea that Kerry shot himself to get a medal and later become president.

Now that they have their narrative, THEY are going to blast him with it day by day, from every direction, from many countries, from many angles.
Until they find a way to get rid of him for good.

I'm not defending Trump, but they have a lock on the system, and they are not going to tolerate an outsider.

83825   freespeechforever   2017 May 16, 11:09pm  

Patrick is in the twilight zone, man.

He could LITERALLY watch Trump strangle an innocent bystander to death in front of his own eyes, in plain daylight, and then someone Designjet it happened or attempt to justify it.

83826   CBOEtrader   2017 May 16, 11:12pm  

Dan8267 says

CBOEtrader says

Trotsky would be proud.

Hitler was a Christian, so I guess Hitler would be proud of you.

Im not religious. Im a liberal, unlike either of you. Liberals believe in free speech.

Those political movements who stray from free speech ALWAYS trend towards violence. Always.

FP says

BTW, eradicating religion was one of the good things the communists did.

This is insanity. The marxists used religion as a reason to oppress people. Also, just like you, they wanted to control indoctrination during core development years. You arent allowed to decide what a parent teaches a child.

FP says

C'mon, Trotsky was a revolutionary who fought and made personal sacrifices for an ideal of a just society. Can't be compared to Hitler.

You need to take a long look in the mirror. Are you in antifa? Communists killed 15 (?) times as many people as the nazis? Freedom of speech is THE core right on which all other rights hinge. Thats why its the 1st amendment. Both the nazis and communists are data points.

Dan8267 says

The United States has NEVER had freedom of religion. It has only had a few highly privileged state-sponsored religions.

What if your religion advocates polygamy like the Mormons did? Oh, you have to stop that or the army won't protect you from invaders.

What if your religion marries off preteens to adults like Islam does? Nope, that doesn't go either.

What if your religion demands not paying taxes? Not a chance.

What if your religion demands secrecy and uses unbreakably encrypted communication? Opps, we can't have that.

What if religion forbids wearing clothes since the gods created you naked? Well, tough cookies.

What if your religion uses mind altering drugs like marijuana for spiritual visions? Nope, it's still against the law.

What if your religion is new? Nope, only religions created by people who died a long time ago are allowed.

Freedom of religion, my ass. It's privilege for a few fraudulent state-sponsored religions.

You are a straw-man factory.

Dan8267 says

CBOEtrader says

Anti-religious propaganda

Weigh the evil done in the name of religion to the evil done in the name of ending religion and there's no comparison.

Show me a religious group that believed in rights for all people while killing others. Its never happened. I dont give a fuck about religion, I care about free speech. Extremism thrives when free speech is limited, not in a free society.

83827   Dan8267   2017 May 16, 11:15pm  

CBOEtrader says

You are a straw-man factory.

Says the guy repeating the mother of all straw man arguments.

https://patrick.net/Tom+Selleck+and+Charlie+Chaplin+are+the+most+dangerous+despots+ever.

83828   CBOEtrader   2017 May 16, 11:15pm  

jazz music says

the more you see the rights they really wanted was the right to profit hugely from slavery.

Moreso the right to not be attacked by the north.

83829   Ceffer   2017 May 16, 11:31pm  

jazz music says

"opinional journalism"

What the fuck is that? Free form speculation, projection, and paranoia loosely amalgamated as fact?

83830   anonymous   2017 May 17, 7:26am  

Dan8267 says

You posted a reference to a joke long forgotten. Your actions divulge your obsession.

False. You Lie!

I posted a link to the original Seth Rich thread, because CBOE referred to Hillary as my witch.

You are just unfunny, and you know it's true. That's why it bothers you so much. I couldn't give any fucks less, was just trying to help you out, pal

83831   Dan8267   2017 May 17, 7:47am  

Looks like I triggered errc again. Christ, I wasn't even trying.

83832   missing   2017 May 17, 8:05am  

CBOEtrader says

Also, just like you, they wanted to control indoctrination during core development years

Not control, but eliminate. That's entirely the opposite of what you are accusing me of.

You are demonstrating remarkable lack of reading comprehension.

83833   missing   2017 May 17, 8:07am  

CBOEtrader says

You need to take a long look in the mirror.

I'd say you need to educate yourself, but I doubt it would be sufficient without a better genetic material.

83834   HEY YOU   2017 May 17, 9:28am  

1.34 billion need to learn: "Civilization is a heat engine."
Every new birth adds to the heat.
Have babies & watch them die.

83835   Y   2017 May 17, 9:29am  

Leading edge solution.
Looks like we got global warming taken care of.
Next...

83836   joeyjojojunior   2017 May 17, 10:32am  

This ape is witnessing first hand the power of the deep state.

83837   HEY YOU   2017 May 17, 10:36am  

The deep state is President,Secretary,Treasurer & control the by-laws of the Big Club.

83839   Tenpoundbass   2017 May 17, 11:01am  

Why didn't they just construct them next to buildings with long covered hall way like structures, with airfoil slats in the wall at the front and back to promote draft.
A breezeway would be the Liberal Science small carbon foot print way of doing things.
But of course we've all noticed that the 3rd World countries that has the cheapest labor in the world. Are expected to waste and consume as much fossil fuels as they require.
It only irks the NGO's when fat disgusting Americans use it to get from Point A to Point B of their won fruition.

83840   anonymous   2017 May 17, 11:43am  

on a day like today, it's good to have a NAC stored away...:)

83841   Dan8267   2017 May 17, 11:54am  

The conservative right has been making death threats against the workers removing the statues, thus proving that they are no different from the conservative left.

Death threats prompt workers to wear bulletproof vests while removing Confederate monument in New Orleans

New Orleans taking down Confederate statues; officials facing death threats

And this is for taking down statues of traitors who murdered countless Americans in order to enslave countless other Americans. They are as bad as ISIS, and those who support them are are bad as those who support ISIS, and for the exact same reasons.

83842   FortWayne   2017 May 17, 12:45pm  

Dan already justified violence against white folk. Just forgot his usual slaver name he has for us all.

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