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Negotiating 101


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2006 Apr 18, 4:16am   13,437 views  59 comments

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Much has been written regarding the origins of the bubble. One of the major contributing factors keeps getting overlooked. The simple ability to negotiate. After a lifetime of standing in line and paying whay we are told to pay we have lost the will to negotiate, the ability to negotiate or both. This is perhaps as primal as fight or flight and equally important to self preservation. Yet we've managed to shuffle this important skill off to the back burner to die on the vine as we "hone" our SHOPPING skills. As evidenced by the bubble we are all now confronting "shopping" is not getting it done. You've found a place that's perfect for you (but we all know it should be priced lower in the future) so how do we bring the future closer? How do we bring sellers closer to our reality? What skills need to be dusted off and brought back to the forefront as bidding wars subside and the new reality finally gains traction?

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52   Garth Farkley   2006 Apr 19, 2:54am  

Skibum said,

We ended up pricing our place $30-50K less than comps (still did okay), and we were one of only 3-4 units out of 50+ in our neighborhood/price range that have sold....

Exactly. And back on the current topic, the same approach is required if and when we buy back in. If we try to time the absolute bottom or top of anything, or if you try to hold out for every possible penny in a negotiation, you'll be too paralyzed to move. Ever.

Think of the monkey who has his hand thrust deep inside a bottle. He can't pull it out because he refuses to release his grip on the peanut he has clenched in his fist.

And, if you love something let it go. If it doesn't come back hunt it down ... etc.

53   DinOR   2006 Apr 19, 3:29am  

Garth,

I say those very things often, and I mean them! The truth is that when we drive a hard bargain we learn things that the casual "shopper" will never learn. My old neighbor built his dream house a few doors down from a dream house that is presently in foreclosure! Everytime I would run into the guy I would ask him how things were going in his area. He would say "Oh, just great" and I left it at that. I suspect had I made the effort and drilled down a little deeper I would have learned this in time to perhaps engineer a short sale. Now it's too late and everybody and their long lost brother knows!

54   DinOR   2006 Apr 19, 3:35am  

newsfreak,

I'd have to say that as automated and "streamlined" the closing and financing process has become 8 months is an eternity. Clearly not priced correctly. Even before the internet 8 months was long time assuming it wasn't some kind of a mansion or unique property.

55   Garth Farkley   2006 Apr 19, 5:00am  

Skibum,

Thanks. Now how do I get this damn bottle off of my hand?

56   Allah   2006 Apr 19, 6:51am  

I won't need to negotiate, they will be begging me to take it at a price I feel it is worth. I will probably be buying my house from a bank, because soon there will be so many houses on their books that they will need to liquidate them or go under...or maybe I will buy it from an RTC auction for pennies on the dollar as many have done the last RE bust when all the S&L's went under. Either way, by the time this crash really reaches full swing, the homedebtors won't have any negotiating power! The homedebtors will soon have a six figure net worth,... too bad it will be a negative number! :evil:

57   DinOR   2006 Apr 19, 11:09am  

allah,

We don't need no stinking negotiations!

I LIKE IT!

58   DinOR   2006 Apr 19, 11:09am  

athena,

Keep those stats a comin'!

Thanks!

59   DinOR   2006 Apr 19, 11:46am  

athena,

So good to have you back! They say the proof is in the pudding and DAMN that's a lot of pudding! 940 listings added in a little over two weeks? Must be the "spring rush".

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