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Helpful Post-Bubble Negotiating Tips


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2006 Jun 6, 7:11am   11,840 views  204 comments

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negotiating 101

DinOR said:

All of a sudden I’m not having much difficulty visualizing buyers asking their realtors “Don’t show me ANYTHING that was purchased in 2005".

Don’t show me anything purchased in 2004.
Don’t show me anything purchased after 2000!

After the few buyers that ARE out there actively seeking a home have kicked through one over priced shitbox after another they are going to have to draw the line! I mean from a pure practicality standpoint. My husband doesn’t get home from work until 6:00pm and we only have an hour before kids/dinner/homework etc. Please stop showing us these places where the seller is upside down and can’t afford to come down on price, unless! They are willing to negotiate a short sale. If not, please don’t waste our time and start showing us “pre-2002″ purchases or we’ll find someone that will.

Also:

Now I’m fully prepared to deal with all the grief so bring it on. Well what if a couple paid CASH in 2005 and just wants out? They’re entertaining all offers! O.K, I’m willing to allow that.

Well what if some couple bought in 1985 but have House ATM’d it to death? Couldn’t they owe more than the place is worth? Don’t know, don’t care. Since Surfer X has already well established that this person basically “re-purchased” their home, it would not qualify. Please don’t show it to me.

Robert Coté said:

I don’t see any reason to buy from someone upside down. They don’t have any room to negotiate and there’s going to be more lawyers and other bloodsucking beasts feeding off the carcass anyway. Much easier to find the unHELOCed bought in 1995 shabby fixer where the seller is happy to double their money and get out. All those “Buyer agrees to….” documents are sure to come back and bite you. No, I’ll take the nice empty nest couple who are happy to get a check at closing rather than the desperate conivers who are so upside down they have no morals left with which to deal honestly. The important thing to remember, everyone else takes money away from the table. The only money usually brought to the table is the buyer’s. Even now as the sellers are facing the prospect of bringing money to the table it isn’t the same as they are trying to stop the bleeding. No, I’ll deal with the smart, calm people instead thankyouverymuch.

Anyone else have a few gems to share?
HARM

#housing

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202   Randy H   2006 Jun 9, 5:29am  

JH,

The government costs jobs because of what is called structural unemployment. Purely speaking, every single labor law and every single government job creates a degree of structural unemployment.

Much of this is good and necessary. We need to employ people to run the government. We need labor laws to keep from returning to the early Industrial era.

But it comes at the cost of labor flexibility. There is a balance; a trade-off. Most Western European countries, especially Germany, have traded a lot more "free market" caused unemployment for structural unemployment. This keeps people happier for a long time, but causes exaggerated economic strife during times of painful restructuring. So they suffer a lot of pain every few decades, we suffer constant pain but at a lower level.

The US has much less real unemployment than Germany. Their counter would be that the US has more underemployment, and that this is not any better. I don't have an opinion other than pointing to the US' dramatically more flexible labor, business, and market environment. It is this which will probably save us from the coming demographic crunch (by save us I mean the US won't fundamentally be changed politically by it), whereas Germany et. al. will likely be barely recognizable after they swallow the demographic pill -- probably a function of poorly planned, unwanted but necessary immigration. This is already ripping parts of France apart.

As to my politics: I am "into" politics the same way Teddy Roosevelt was.

203   Different Sean   2006 Jun 9, 2:10pm  

This is already ripping parts of France apart.

France is always being ripped apart, it's what they do best. They love it.

204   Randy H   2006 Jun 9, 2:33pm  

DS

The French are a paradox unto themselves.

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