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Any Predictions for 2010?


               
2009 Dec 23, 7:18am   25,512 views  116 comments

by inflection point   follow (0)  

The new year is just days away.

Anyone have any thoughts about what news item will grace Patrick's housing crash forum next year?

Just think you could be the next Nostrodomous.

#housing

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1   Â¥   @   2009 Dec 23, 7:45am  

There are so many bad things that can happen.

Eg. the 10 year moving through 5%. Given all the debt we have to reissue every month now I don't even want to think about it.

Wage inflation is only going to come via price shocks to the wage-earning population we call J6P. Back in the 1970s J6P could get cost-of-living salary adjustments with employers as the system inflated up & out.

But these days many J6Ps are competing with the Wangs and Kumars of the world making a fraction of US wages, and increasing personal productivity is making many office and industrial jobs redundant even without offshoring pressures.

Plus so much of our economy is BS consumption, marketing, F/I/RE, and that's not even considering the $700 billion we're spending on war. That's seven million $100K/yr jobs, with limited actual wealth creation that will benefit us in the future.

If the US of A had a 10-K, I think we'd have a Going Concern warning from the auditors.

2   Â¥   @   2009 Dec 23, 7:48am  

E-man says

Home prices will increase 5% compared to 2009.

This is going to depend on prevailing interest rates. If they stay under 5%, perhaps. If not, I fail to see how this is going to be possible, unless other "affordability" measures are taken like outright payment assistance.

3   ZippyDDoodah   @   2009 Dec 23, 8:24am  

Bubbles never deflate in a straight line. The current bounce in home prices in some markets is almost entirely the result of artificial lowering of interest rates coupled with govt spending through tax credits and loose credit money with HUD. E-man makes an interesting prediction, but I'll take the other side.. home prices will drop 10% average nationwide in 2010 as compared to 2009 even with massive govt deficit spending to prop it up. The S&P will hit a euphoric 1350 on the "hope" that things are turning around before sliding below 800

4   ch_tah2   @   2009 Dec 23, 8:56am  

Well, no one's gonna call you Nostrodamus for predicting what everyone else says - a smidge up, a smidge down. I'll say 25% price increase nationwide.

(I sure hope not)

5   justme   @   2009 Dec 23, 8:58am  

What Zippy says sounds about right. Troy as well.

6   inflection point   @   2009 Dec 23, 9:07am  

I would really like to know how much longer the government can keep all the all those balls in the air:

1. House prices
2. Money Supply
3. Bailouts
4. Fake GDP, unemployment and other statistics.

Anyone notice GM is offering 0% financing for 72 months? How do you feel about funding that?

7   ch_tah2   @   2009 Dec 23, 9:11am  

What is to stop them? People in the streets are more worried about fictional "death panels" than they are of the gov't propping up housing artificially. Actually, it seems most people are happy about it. As long as housing looks ok on the surface (e.g. prices going up; foreclosures decreasing), the people seem to be ignoring all of the potential consequences.

8   inflection point   @   2009 Dec 23, 9:16am  

I am not so sure all people are happy about it. Most feel they have no control.

Fortunately, I believe that there are certain laws like gravity are self enforcing. You are subject to the gravity regardless if you believe in it or ignore it.

All this nonsense will come to an end.

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