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Prop 13 as a scapegoat


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2010 Jan 13, 2:40pm   10,493 views  42 comments

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For some time prop 13 has appeared numerous times on patrick.net as somehow relating to the housing crisis e.g. most recently today.

Whilst people do seem to present some arguments as to why it did contribute, I totally fail to see the connection. How could stopping unbridled taxation contribute to a housing crash? beats me, especially since the crash is also occurring in states that don't have a prop 13.

When one considers the numerous doom sayers prophetcies at inception  which seem to have been kept at bay for decades.

Also one must remember taxes are a bit like roads as soon as you build one it becomes full and you need to build another...

Further I fail to see how if prop 13 had been passed how the state would have been alright and the crash averted. This is because if the state could overspend on its budget now how would it have been constrained by more money being available to it? surely the reverse?

#housing

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41   kentm   2010 Jan 28, 5:10pm  

thomas.wong89 says

LOL! and somehow back after Prop 13 passed, we somehow managed to have a highly educated workforce which propelled a tech boom in the 80s? so where did the Engineers and Business workers come from who started to work in places like Silicon Valley?

Dood. You come on like you're such a math whiz, please make more sense or stop expounding on with such a lofty tone all the time.

Prop13 was passed in 1978 and the effects were cumulative from that point, starting in small increments.

The kids who were making those tech booms happen, the Engineers and Business workers, were educated in system that was designed and funded prior to 1978. *

Every year after that its gotten worse and worse, to the point we find ourselves in now, in a cash starved system that has created whats now the (?) third or fourth lowest education rating in the country. The CA world those kids grew up in is not the CA world we find ourselves in now.

Ix-nay on the one-tay.

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* Besides, anyway, didn't the boom occur partially because of tax incentives to business that drew a lot of that innovation to the area?

42   Elsie   2010 Jan 28, 6:51pm  

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1 - Prop 13 was also about the stopping of the raising any taxes. It required 2/3 majority to pass any tax raises - hence the minority legislators rule the process - very ineffective.

2 - In either the state of NJ or a city in NJ, they calculate property taxes by taking the median house price and then comparing all houses to that price. They set the value for the median house price. Some will owe more taxes if their house is valued over the median price and less if below the median price. They re-evaluate it every 3 years and they have a total pool amount that they want (that may increase 3% each time) - so it's distributed over all the houses - so not based on percentages. It seems more fair because it's equitable and doesn't matter that you were able to purchase a home before 1978.

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