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Just who are the willing buyers?


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2007 Feb 25, 8:55am   8,837 views  122 comments

by Peter P   ➕follow (2)   💰tip   ignore  

It is clear that homes are still being purchased in the Bay Area. Many "For Sale" signs in my Sunnyvale Neighborhood have "Sale Pending" attached to them. Who are still buying? What are the motivations? Now that the fear of being priced out has waned, what is the driving emotion?

This also leads to the issue of a possible "spring bounce". Will there be one this year? If the local economy is strong, a soft leading is not completely out of the question.

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108   e   2007 Feb 26, 6:43am  

It’s crazy when people make over 100k a year, and can’t afford a house.

Based on some napkin math I was doing at lunch, if you're making $100k, were single, and interest rates stay at 6.5% - it looks like you could finance a $500k mortgage fairly easily. Throw in another $100k for a downpay - and you could afford a house.

It might be a house in East San Jose though.

109   sfbubblebuyer   2007 Feb 26, 6:45am  

Austingal,

Hey, a sweet house on a nice piece of land that you got in foreclosure is probably a good thing. Just consider the mobile cost and 'rent' for the land it's on as schooling costs. You sound like you want the house for the 'long run' so overpaying a little isn't likely to be a huge deal for you guys.

110   e   2007 Feb 26, 6:47am  

Why in the world would you want to buy a 1 bed junior condo that you had to get a roommate and a loan from daddy in order to afford?

HAH! I posted the exact same comment a few hours ago:

http://www.burbed.com/2007/02/26/bay-area-is-1-in-median-home-prices-again/

That said, I bet her dad begged her to do this.

111   Peter P   2007 Feb 26, 6:49am  

Why in the world would you want to buy a 1 bed junior condo that you had to get a roommate and a loan from daddy in order to afford?

A roommate in a 1 bed junior condo? :-~

112   Peter P   2007 Feb 26, 6:50am  

Based on some napkin math I was doing at lunch, if you’re making $100k, were single, and interest rates stay at 6.5% - it looks like you could finance a $500k mortgage fairly easily. Throw in another $100k for a downpay - and you could afford a house.

Huh?

28% of 100K ~= 2333/month PITI. That ain't no 500K mortgage.

113   e   2007 Feb 26, 6:53am  

Oh, I was using 40%.

$100k - 40k goes to PITI. That's about $2900 a month. Which... hm... isn't a $500k. Only about $475k.

Scratch that.

114   SFWoman   2007 Feb 26, 6:57am  

eburbed,

Does your $100k person pay taxes, eat, have insurance payments, save for retirement, ever need clothing? Get haircuts, buy soap, do laundry?

I think 40% of gross would be near impossible to manage.

115   e   2007 Feb 26, 7:07am  

Does your $100k person pay taxes, eat, have insurance payments, save for retirement, ever need clothing? Get haircuts, buy soap, do laundry?

My napkin math:

$100k income
-40k for PITI
-30k for Taxes
+12k for Interest Deduction
-15.5k for 401k

That leaves about $26k disposable. That's about $2160 a month, or about $500 a week.

You'd never be able to go on vacation - but you can definitely afford the basics with that number.

Did I miss something big?

116   cb   2007 Feb 26, 7:09am  

Not surprising though… almost everyone I saw who went to this Open House was Indian, Chinese, or otherwise Asian - and they all looked pretty First Gen:

Did you at least see some white guy with a Asian wife or girlfriend? Serves them right to be a FB for stealing our women :)

117   e   2007 Feb 26, 7:14am  

Did you at least see some white guy with a Asian wife or girlfriend? Serves them right to be a FB for stealing our women :)

No I did not. I think they were too busy walking down University Ave in Palo Alto, or being featured on the cover of magazines (I think AAA recently had one)

118   SFWoman   2007 Feb 26, 7:21am  

eburbed,

I think vacations are essential. I need to swim in a warm sea or go to the mountains or to great cities every now and then. I think it's good for the soul, and more important than owning stuff.

Your calculations would probably work for someone who had employer covered health and dental insurance and didn't go for much long distance travel.

119   e   2007 Feb 26, 7:22am  

Just to do some more math:

$26k disposable income
-1k for car insurance
-5k for car payments
-1k for DSL/Cell phone
-1k for new clothes

That's still 18k left ($347 week) in disposable income.

For a single person, that's not too bad. And, amazingly, this includes $15,500 in 401k savings - which probably puts the person in the Top 5% of savers in this country. :)

120   e   2007 Feb 26, 7:24am  

Your calculations would probably work for someone who had employer covered health and dental insurance and didn’t go for much long distance travel.

Oh... well.. yeah. I was thinking of an Apple/Yahoo/Intel/Cisco/Google/Tech Startup employee.

As for vacations - most of my California native friends only go to Tahoe or Vegas. I think it's believed that if you go too far from California, you'll die or something. (Unless it's Taiwan/Mumbai for family reasons.)

121   surfer-x   2007 Feb 26, 8:54am  

How’s the bubble unfolding there?

Suds, it's correcting in real time, especially in Ventura where I'll like buy. $B kind of actually sucks, the people here are icky.

122   B.A.C.A.H.   2007 Feb 26, 10:36am  

CB wrote,

"Did you at least see some white guy with a Asian wife or girlfriend? Serves them right to be a FB for stealing our women"

Well, if that is what happened, at least you cannot accuse the guy of marrying his way into a green card after positioning himself with a Canadian residency. Could accuse the Asian wife of doing it maybe, but not the guy.

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