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Sorry about the double-post --I didn't see Patrick's new thread until after the fact.
Yup, he has obviously blown his cash out refi. What an idiot. I love these losers who omit crucial facts like that from their hardship stories.
Muggy,
Very reasonable explanation, but...
...if Galindo had made any actual improvements to the house, wouldn't he be able to recoup at least some of that investment when he sold the house?
I think this might be a case for the Hardly Boys!
The SF Chronicle knows that the majority of their readers don't have the sense or curiousity to run the numbers of a 1995 mortgage as HARM did.
They also know that the majority of their readers think that capitalism and free markets are the problem with government control of every aspect of life being the solution. Galindo's situation is a prime example of the evil fruit of capitalism. It is meant to evoke sympathy and look to the nanny-state for answers. Of course, Galindo bears no personal responsibility here.
I am of the opinion that this and a number of sympathy stories like this are to set the stage for a tax-payer bail out.
For the bleeding hearts reading this and thinking that I'm a cold bastard, let me share with you that in the late 80s in another state, I purchased a home where the developer had lowered the interest to inflate the price. I later sold the home at 50% of my purchase price. I've been there and it's not fun. However, I signed the mortgage and had responsibility to repay it.
SFvulture, I sympathize with you, and I respect you. I am sick and tired of people paying things back when it works for them. In the end keeping your word and paying your bills is what really seperates out people of character. People love the idea of sticking it to someone else, or a bank, and they just can't grasp that it is only a short term boost, and they have shot themselves in the foot for the rest of their life when they do. I don't even need to ask, because I can tell that you pulled yourself back up.
And related to the story, why oh why do these people keep having kids they can't afford?
SFVulture,
There are very few bleeding hearts here. I don't recall any. Personally, I have no sympathy for stupid people, especially when I am the one who might get hurt because of their stupidity.
You know, I used to be bothered by that but then I realized, the more losers there are who don't pay their bills, and go around shafting people when they can, the easier it is to stand out as someone solid. What sucks is when the government tries to protect them at our expense. All of a sudden most employers aren't allowed to run credit reports on prospective applicants because of 'adverse impact' , so the government continuously tries to be the great equalizer.
I think if I am applying for a job of financial responsibility, the other guy's bankruptcy is a material factor in deciding between the two of us.
The Article said:
> Ruben Galindo, 44, Castanon's neighbor and a LoBue worker
> for 15 years, said, "Whatever little savings that we have, we
> are just not spending any. We are saving our pennies and nickels
> just to get us through the year.''
> Galindo, with a wife and three kids, also has a mortgage and
> thinks he can handle two months of unemployment, but no more
> than that. He bought his house in Lindsay in 1995
Then HARM said:
> Galindo bought his house in 1995, so that’s 12 years of (presumably
> continuous) mortgage payments, at a much, much lower cost-basis
> than today Has Mr. Galindo cash-out refinanced his house each year
> since 1995 and used the money to take his family on annual round-the-
> world luxury cruises? Unfortunately, this mystery is beyond my limited
> amateur-sleuth abilities to solve. Please help me out here.
Using the amateur-sleuth tool known as the internet I found that:
1. Lindsay is in Tulare County.
2. There are 51 homes in Tulare County owned by people named Galindo.
3. There are 3 homes in the city of Lindsay owned by people named Galindo.
4. There is one home in Lindsay owned by a Ruben Galindo Located at 745 Monte Circle.
5. The Ruben O. Galindo at 745 Monte Circle is 44 years old (so I probably found our man)
According to title records the 1,200 sf home at 745 Monte Circle was built in 1996 and Ruben bought it for $87,500 on 7/96 making a $326 (less than $500) down payment and getting a FHA loan (there is no other debt currently recorded on title).
Bay, that is a great point. In my opinion most people don't understand what being a real man means anymore. Ask most people of a profile of a real man, and you will get an answer resembling some loud mouth WWF wrestler, instead of someone of character who takes care of their business. I'm sick of going overseas and being embarrassed to be an American because these fat bellied loud mouths think they can treat the locals like crap because they have a credit card to wave around. I have quietly been rejoicing the downfall of these arogant turds.
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Most of the posts here tend to pretty much revolve around posting housing/economic news stats, debunking REIC propaganda, ranting about the NAR/Fed, sharing stories, parodying ignorant FBs, etc. This time, I have a genuine mystery for you to help solve.
A recent San Francisco Chronicle article, "ECONOMIC DEEP FREEZE
January cold spell inflicts hardship on the state's citrus workers" contained the following excerpt:
Ok, now here are the facts:
Yet...
I really need your help here, because I just can't seem to reconcile the first two statements with the last two. From 1995 to 2007, house prices throughout virtually every part of California have at least tripled. So, even assuming Mr. Galindo took out an interest-only loan back in 1995 (not likely, as they were very rare back then), he must have at least 66.67% equity in his home by now, right? And if he has been more-or-less continuously employed since 1992 (with a very, very low housing cost basis), then how could he have almost zero savings? Even with the wife + 3 kids and assuming his job is of the low-skill/low-pay fruit-picking variety, and that his wife never works, this all seems somewhat hard to understand.
Has Mr. Galindo cash-out refinanced his house each year since 1995 and used the money to take his family on annual round-the-world luxury cruises? Has his family dined exclusively on Chateaubriand, Maine lobster, pâté de foie gras, Italian black truffles, Kobe beef and Dom Perignon for the last 12 years? Is he single-handedly putting "Kitty", "Amber" and "Bambi" at the local gentleman's club through college?
Unfortunately, this mystery is beyond my limited amateur-sleuth abilities to solve. Please help me out here.
Thanks,
HARM
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