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Voting should be a right reserved for taxpayers


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2010 Jun 19, 11:55pm   14,834 views  71 comments

by Honest Abe   ➕follow (1)   💰tip   ignore  

Economically literate people understand that government spending is really taxpayer spending. Therefore taxpayers should be the ones who decide how to spend the money, if at all. As a result voting should be restricted to those who pay taxes.

Non-taxpayers will ALWAYS vote for the politician who offer the most hand-outs...won't they?

Non-taxpayers have no skin in the game...do they?

Non-taxpayers will NEVER vote for policies which help fix America's problems, if it means less to them...will they?

Economically illerate people understand that taxes reduce the available pool of (1) savings and (2) investment capital. A country with "savers" is and indication of a stable country, as opposed to an unstable country. And investment capital is what allows businesses to open or expand. Samll businesses account for about 95% of the jobs in America. And why is it when a city, state, or even the Federal Government wants to stimulate jobs the first thing they offer is tax breaks ? (BTW it can't work BOTH ways).

And while I'm at it, why have we allowed politicians to pass laws to which THEY are NOT subject to ????? Or is it that: "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others".

 More Doublespeak = Government spending means taxpayer spending

Department of War means Defense Department

Evil Capitalists means small business owners who provide jobs

 OK kiddies - time to wake up, this is going on all around you,  but many either ignore it, or even worse, support it.

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61   marcus   2010 Jul 4, 7:55pm  

By the way, just out of curiosity, when exactly by your reckoning did we become the most powerful country ? What decade or so do you think most people put that ?

62   NastySlapper   2010 Jul 4, 8:05pm  

I have to admit that I don't have the statistics at hand to know when that happened, or if in fact it ever did. I assume it via common sense, though possibly you can convince me otherwise. If I were to guess, though, I'd say around the start of the 20th century.

63   NastySlapper   2010 Jul 4, 8:27pm  

...which was just after the industrial revolution, before the income tax, and before centrally orchestrated monetary inflation, just to be clear. Of course, we remained such a power after these things transpired as well, but on this, I would maintain the following two important points:

1) Central control of the money supply does not necessarily inhibit economic "growth". As per Keynes, it can in fact fuel it. I merely assert that much of the fruit of this productivity is under the control of the money makers, and not the producers.

2) After the institution of the income tax, taxes were still lower in the United States than in most other nations. This is no longer true, and neither is our per capita DP.

64   NastySlapper   2010 Jul 5, 1:46am  

Homograph - Here's an interesting question that ought to take some real thinking:

Which president do you think most closely resembles Adolf Hitler:

George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Abraham Lincoln
Barack Obama

(Of course, I left others off there that you might place higher, and therefore it's not really a fair question! ...I suppose you can name anyone you'd like. :) )

65   marcus   2010 Jul 5, 1:57am  

Glenn ? Can we get a little help here ?

66   marcus   2010 Jul 5, 2:03am  

Let's not forget that in Hitler's fascist regime run amok he did use the word "socialist" in it's name. And we all know what Obama is. So there. I said it.

Yours Truly, Glenn ( great american conservative intellect)

67   marcus   2010 Jul 5, 2:17am  

It would be unamerican, and I don't advocate it, but of the silly ideas thrown around here about who should be disallowed from voting, the IQ limit is the most intriguing one. Say only the top 25%. (No I am not saying that necessarily includes me). Maybe even make it the top 40%.

Obviously a wrong and absurd idea. And yet I would find it reassuring, especially if the economy were to get much worse.

68   NastySlapper   2010 Jul 5, 2:34am  

Yes, I'm out of my league. E.g., your penetrating sarcasm and wit are several levels beyond my capacity to absorb - in fact, I would even propose that I'm not really even aware of them! I'm the type that would read a question of the form "which answer most closely resembles [something]" and fail to come up with the clever "none".

69   Bap33   2010 Jul 5, 4:18am  

Nomo, I get paid through fee for service, like PGE, not tax based in any way. Just so you know. lol. Most water/sewer/garbage employees are not paid by taxation, but rather for a service. The lack of competition requires the depts to operate as a non-profit type of deal. But, if I did work in a public funded area I would stand by my point - at least I think I would.

Hitler ..... not a big fan. He was smarter than Lord Barry ..... or the media of his time did an even better job of production than today's poop-grinders do for Lord Barry. Did Hitler have a DeadFish working for him publicly?

70   marcus   2010 Jul 5, 4:38am  

We have a lot of ignorant racists in this country, but we also already have sufficient diversity ( and even pride in our diversity, at least in the blue states ) such that a racist type of fascism like Hitler's could never happen here.

71   marcus   2010 Jul 5, 4:54am  

The corporatist type of fascism though, that Mussolini practiced and that Hitler claimed to be ( to obtain power ), that was the direction that many liberals felt and said we were heading under Bush. Maybe some of the wacky things that Glenn Beck and other like minded entertainers say is more or less payback for that.

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