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September 12, 2037


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2007 Apr 3, 5:37am   23,513 views  333 comments

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http://www.time.com/time/printout/0,8816,915445,00.html

Unleashing their pent-up demands and taking advantage of fairly easy mortgage money, millions of people are shopping for houses. In Santa Rosa, Calif., a 90-minute commute north of San Francisco, buyers in June began camping out in sleeping bags on a Thursday night to be first in line Saturday morning when 27 houses in a new subdevelopment went on sale. In the Kendall neighborhood of southwestern Dade County, the last open area reasonably close to Miami, prospective buyers on weekends parade caravan-like in cars and campers through flag-festooned developments.

Sound familiar? Yet another story from 2005? Nope... the publication date of this article was September 12, 1977 - nearly 30 years ago.

Let's look at some other snippets from this time capsule:

Rachelle Resnick, 27, a San Francisco school-bus driver, counts herself fortunate to have bought—with much help from her father—a two-bedroom house that she candidly describes as "a little nothing." It cost $48,500, and she will have to spend $5,000 or so to repair termite damage. But had she waited, it almost surely would have gone higher. The house sold in June 1976 for $28,000, and has since been resold four times by four separate speculators, none of whom lived in it.

Such speculation is common in California and is beginning to appear in other states. Indeed, California is a housing Oz unto itself; its population is still growing faster than that of any other large state except Texas; the recession bit especially deep in California, creating a huge backlog of demand, and strict environmental requirements severely limit the land available for housing. Prices are starting to level off, but the level is in the stratosphere. In platinum-plated Beverly Hills, one cynical real estate broker exclaims: "Oh, I have such a dog on the market right now! Come to my Sunday open house and see what I'm offering for $185,000. I can tell you, for $185,000 you get a piece of nothing." Tom Lorch, a high school principal who is looking for a house in San Francisco, adds, "When we talk about houses, it's money, money, money—not how we're going to live, which seems wrong. And these absurd numbers, $100,000. It's some kind of fantasy world."

Does anyone know what happened to the housing market in California after 1977? Or was the impact of Prop 13 too influential in the resulting statistics?

And finally, the social impact:

Like all inflations, housing inflation has serious social effects. Some wives feel forced to go to work, not because they want to have careers or earn their own spending money, but because buying that dream house nowadays usually requires two incomes. Six out often first-time buyers are families in which both husband and wife hold jobs. Couples who want to have children sometimes face the brutal choice of a house or a child—and, more often than in past years, select the house. In the early postwar period, sociologists and merchants suggested that Americans spent too little on shelter, too much on less basic needs. If so, the market has more than corrected that tendency. In order to buy a house, couples are scrimping drastically on other spending—for cars, food and even furniture; not a few fancy new houses are almost bare inside. Young people have always asked parents for help in scraping up the down payment on a home; mortgage bankers call the payoff from papa a "gift letter." Now the pool of cash required to spend the first night in a new house—frequently $20,000 to $30,000—has made this sacrifice of independence a matter of necessity rather than choice.

So... this was in 9/1977. Now, it's hard enough predicting what 9/2007 will be like - but what do you think September 12, 2037 will be like?

Already, both parents are working, realtors are spinning the Bay Area as a place so great that you don't need to take vacations - what's next? Will child labor make a come back? ("Monta Vista High School and Fireworks Factory #88"?) How much more special can it get here?

(Bonus points for including Peak Oil in your prediction...)

#housing

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332   Randy H   2007 Apr 5, 6:46am  

@theotherside

I'm waiting on a fax, so I've got the time. Let's engage in a little bit of basic transitive logic, since I "don't get it yet".

F = FAB; R = Randy; T = theOtherSide

F R T
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Y Y N Believe there is a bubble
Y Y N Believe prices will probably go down nominally
Y N N Believe prices will surely go down nominally
Y Y N Believe renting can be financially superior to buying
Y Y N Believe right now renting is financially superior
Y Y N Believe an advanced degree in business is worth at least something
Y Y N Have such a degree
Y Y N Rent now
Y Y N Believe people who buy now (or at least in past 2 years) will lose $
Y Y N Believe inflation matters
N N Y Believe it's "always a good time to buy"

By my tally, you and I are more in line than you and FAB.

Regardless, since FAB and I are in agreement on so much, and he "knows what he's talking about", and he and I have reconciled our numbers many times over in past threads (flushing out what we disagree on in the process), then I also must know what I'm talking about.

Do you get it now?

333   Malcolm   2007 Apr 6, 2:13pm  

TOS
Peter P and Malcolm, my crystal ball tells me that you will be VERY successful in life…

I'm proud of where I've put myself, but it is not an exclusive club, and I love to share/exchange experiences, ideas, and fun debate. It is how those who aspire to be something get there.

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