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It is not uncommon for people of moderate means to place properties under revocable living trusts. I think it is more of an estate planning thing.
Hm, the words "revocable living trust" was never in my vocabulary. Are these just big tax shelters or something?
Do property management companies take a big bite via fees?
Not too much, normally 5-10% monthly rent per unit. Obviously the more units, the less they charge. I always chose to manage my own just because on a month to month basis they basically mail your mortgage payment in. I use eviction services for evictions which is all a manger would do anyway.
If the fed can only give lip service and not raise rates, then why would they cut rates?
Because the Fed --and Congress-- just loves asset bubbles and (stealth) inflation. Anything to help keep the economy lookin' good and assist in deflating those Twin Towers of Terror: The National Debt & future Medicare/SS obligations. Of course, cutting rates will also help bail out FBs and lenders, or at the very least, slow the bleeding.
Are these just big tax shelters or something?
Not necessary. But AFAIK properties under these trusts are non-probate.
I am not a lawyer.
Were you talking passive income in the tax sense, in that you have other passive income you need a corresponding write off for?
No, I'm just looking for passive income for... passive income. Being a worker bee at a Fortune 500 company isn't really going to get me and my future family where I want to be.
And my luck w/stock options has been the complete opposite of SP's Sun/Yahoo/Google friend.
You avoid probate fees, that's about it since pretty much the inheritance tax is no longer being charged on most estates.
I think the process of probate itself is scarier than its fees.
Estate Question:
If a wife murders her husband and then commits suicide, who survives who? :)
viably + vehemently = viamently
So he coined a new word, what's not to like? ;-)
a_k1947
Nice word play on the handle. I assume the 1947 is your birth year (since you are 60), but the a_k hits a note.
Is this a play with your real initials on the Soviet Kalishnikov 1947, aka AK-47?
Nice Harm. Criticize a typo from this morning. I'm the only one I know.
How would you even know what he was talking about. I had to scroll up to see what you guys were talking about. Give me a break.
I did a page search just like you. Sheesh, why do I have to be the bad guy?
I'm truly sorry. I make *plenty* of typos, so should not be one to cast stones.
Malcolm,
With that incredible keyboard pugilism you demonstrated in this thread in your battle with those econ heavyweights, I think we can forgive a mispelled word.
I did not catch DS's intent either. I thought maybe "viamently hee hee" was some sort of Aussie giggle.
Anthony,
If you agree that FED is just an extension of the government, then we all know what a government is most concerned with: social stability, which means employment rate. Be it aristocratic, totalitarian or democratic, a society with very high unemployment will upset the very foundation of a government, which is an organism with its own self-interest.
FED has painted itself into a corner. It really doesn't have much of a choice. Dollar's status as the world's reserve currency has been waning since the 60s, it is just a matter of time that as we keep going down this path, USD will just lose its dominating power, so it is not a scenario that the Americans are entirely unprepared for, psychologically. We were at a crossroad choosing between inflation and deflation, but so far, the signs are clear, we are choosing inflation. The real inflation rate, for anyone who shops at grocery markets and drives a car to work, is far beyond the published "core" rate. FED is no dummy, the last time I checked, the FED governors are living in the same country as I do, so they know what the real inflationary picture is.
The most ideal case for America is to devalue slowly, 5% a year maybe, so as not to upset the financial system in general, and bring on the impact of a cheap USD to the US public gradually, while alleviating the real debt load of Americans. Let's face it, we are a debtor nation, each household in Amerca carries an average $9.8K credit card debt, much more in mortgage, and has a negative savings rate. We have a huge medicare and social security gap in the wake of baby boomer retirement. No democratic government is going to do anything (aka, choosing deflation and defending the dollar) to jeopardize the interest of its main constituents - debtors.
However, history has shown us that soft landing is hard. Landing in itself typically means hard landing. So while I recognize it is the wish of the FED to manage a soft landing for the dollar, I don't buy this scenario. Once the landslide starts, it is difficult to hold back and the market always overreacts in the short term.
If you believe in a seriously weakening dollar, parking your money anywhere outside of the dollar will benefit. While I am big on Euro, oil, agriculture, and gold as shorter-term bets as things are sorting themselves out, I am more bullish on US companies that will benefit from a weakening USD in the long-term. A weak dollar will rejuvenate lots of home-grown industries and most FBs and welfare deadbeats off their butt to start working again. I see a collapsing dollar as an essential step in the healing process.
Breaking news on the Virginia Tech shooter:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/18/vtech.shooting/index.html
CNN also learned Wednesday that in 2005 Cho was declared mentally ill by a Virginia special justice, who declared he was "an imminent danger" to himself, a court document states.
A temporary detention order from General District Court in the commonwealth of Virginia said Cho "presents an imminent danger to himself as a result of mental illness."
A box indicating that the subject "Presents an imminent danger to others as a result of mental illness" was not checked.
In another part of the form, Cho was described as "mentally ill and in need of hospitalization, and presents an imminent danger to self or others as a result of mental illness, or is so seriously mentally ill as to be substantially unable to care for self, and is incapable of volunteering or unwilling to volunteer for treatment."
Interesting to note that Virginia actually has some fairly stringent background checks on handguns compared to most other Southern states:
http://www.bradycampaign.org/legislation/state/viewstate.php?st=va#bgnd
BACKGROUND CHECK AT STATE LEVEL
Do state police perform a background check in addition to federal NICS check? Yes
Virginia: State law requires gun buyers to go through a state-based criminal background check in addition to the federal NICS check. This is the best system since it includes checking both state and federal records to prevent criminals and other prohibited people from buying guns. in 2000, 2,568 gun buyers failed the criminal background check and were stopped from buying guns.
ANTI-TRAFFICKING
Is there a one-handgun-per-month limit on gun sales? Yes
State law restricts gun-trafficking by limiting the number of handguns that can be purchased at one time. No more than one handgun may be purchased by a person within a 30-day period. This restriction on bulk-buying of handguns helps prevent gun traffickers from buying handguns at gun stores and reselling them on the street to criminals.
Basically, aside from banning firearm possession for people who have been declared mentally ill in the past but have no prior criminal record, I don't see what else the State of Virginia could have been expected to do to prevent this.
Headset, I was thinking the same thing. I typed in confrontation mode for about 3 hours and I have some clown pick out one misspelled word from the whole thing to ridicule?
Malcolm, you have my permission to pounce the next time I post a misspelling or eggcorn.
I misspell all the time. But I am also able to brush off "attacks" against me easily.
Malcolm Says:
Nice Harm. Criticize a typo from this morning. I’m the only one I know.
I did it, it was me. Probably just my take on the preceding discussion full of sound and fury...
Probably just my take on the preceding discussion full of sound and fury…
It signified nothing. :)
Guys it's not that big a deal, I just had a moment of irritation because, like I said, we had a hell of a discussion this morning and if all that comes out of it is scrutiny of one horrific spelling error that it is a small slap in the face. We're all ok, I didn't mean to overreact.
surfer-x,
I am also income challenged (less than six figures). My mortgage is around the same as what you are looking at, and we get by okay. You should do fine (5.6%, yep, that's "free money"). What is your current rent in SB for those of us who are curious?
a_k1947
Sounds almost like you knew Mikhail personally! I did not know the Soviets granted patents to individuals. I thought the manufacturer would own the patents, and that would only apply to exports.
Different Sean, you have touched on what I was basically saying. I started out questioning if MLS was a monopoly and made the point that even if they are it is not necessarily illegal to be a monopoly. All of your examples are straight from any business textbook. Where Randy made a great point was in bringing up exclusionary practices which may be illegal under the Clayton Act IMO. I know for sure that you can't force a client to buy other specifc items from you to maintain the right to do business with you, but I am honestly not sure if an exclusivity agreement can bar other listing services. On that I honestly just don't know the legal answer.
a_k1947,
You may want to correct this Wikipedia article:
"Despite estimates that there are around 100 million AK-47 assault rifles in circulation, General Kalashnikov claims that he himself has made no money from the sale of these weapons and that he only receives a meagre state pension. He even has a share from a company which produces Umbrellas. And recently, he has said that he wished he had invented the lawn-mower instead."
I heard somewhere that the AK-47 holds some record for the largest number of human deaths.
DS,
Cool term, maybe we accuse those who disagree as "having a confab moment"
"I heard somewhere that the AK-47 holds some record for the largest number of human deaths."
Possibly for a single type, but the Soviet army lost 100,000 a week for four years during the Axis invasion in the Great Patriotic War. This was several years before the AK-47 was invented.
HARM your understanding of intellectual property law is pretty accurate. That is in fact how licensing agreements work.
Thanks, Malcolm. Just curious, do you work in a field related to corporate/IP law?
As a Virginia Tech Alum, I just like to pass this on:
Virginia Tech family members across the country have united to declare this Friday, April 20th, an " Orange and Maroon Effect" day to honor those killed in the tragic events on campus Monday, and to show support for Virginia Tech students, faculty, administrators, staff, alumni, and friends. " Orange and Maroon Effect" was born several years ago as an invitation to Tech fans to wear orange and maroon to Virginia Tech athletic events. We invite everyone from all over the country to be a part of the Virginia Tech family this Friday, to wear orange and maroon to support the families of those who were lost, and to support the school and community we all love so much.
Headset, I think that is the record, the weapon with the most casualties. Just something I heard, maybe confabulating.
It's been in just about every war for the last 50 years.
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Sadistic, Greedy Buyers Toying with Sellers Like Cats with Prey*
Copyright © 2007 UnReality Times®. All Rights Reserved.
by David Lereah, Leslie Appleton-Young and John Karevoll
As the alleged real estate bear market enters its second year of hitting bottom, some buyers out there are clearly enjoying this one-time market aberration --perhaps a little too much. Is deriving sadistic glee from other peoples' suffering a nice thing to do? The Germans have a word for this: schadenfreude (and we all know what cruelty the Germans are capable of!).
According to Donald Parisi, president of the Realtor Association of the Fox Valley (IL), buyer cruelty is reaching grotesque proportions:
This view is further clarified by Jim Fox, manager of Realty One in Canton, Ohio:
Even more to the point than Mr. Parisi, Florida Realtorâ„¢ Becky Troutt gets right to the heart of the matter:
Now, that's telling 'em like it is, Becky!
While the unbridled greed and glee exhibited by these sadistic buyers (and the American Dreamâ„¢-hating press) are stomach-turning awful, they are not the primary causes of this upside-down market. The real culprit for this most unnatural and unhealthy market condition, is well understood in the industry:
Clearly what's needed here is massive government intervention to protect homeowners and rekindle the normal 20%/year appreciation. This might take the form of a distressed homeowner mortgage buy-down, or federal underwriting for all the kindhearted subprime lenders who generously enabled low-income Americans participate in the American Dreamâ„¢ (often mischaracterized by Gloom'n'Doomers as a "bailout").
To proactively tackle this looming crisis, the NAR and CAR have teamed up with the MBAA (Mortgage Bankers Association of America) to sponsor the Save the American Dreamâ„¢ Act of 2007. Says NAR Chief Economist, David Lereah, "We are urging people to sign our online petition, and write, call, email and beg their Senators and Congresspersons to support this badly needed piece of mercy legislation. Home ownership is as American as apple pie --only you (and Uncle Sam) have the power to save it! Please do your patriotic duty and support the SADA. God bless."
[*Note: while the offset quotes and links are real, this 'article' is a parody]
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