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A Modest Proposal


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2008 Jan 24, 12:55am   31,353 views  323 comments

by Patrick   ➕follow (59)   💰tip   ignore  

out of reach

How about some legislation with the express intent to LOWER house prices, unlike the crap legislation we're getting from Pelosi and Barney Frank designed to make housing less affordable?

We should completely eliminate Fannie Mae, and after that, the mortgage interest income deduction.

Here are some more ideas from Steve, a patrick.net reader:

the goals should be something like to promote home ownership by
discouraging flipping and owning multiple residences

promote homeownership but discourage multiple residences:
- remove the mortgage rate deduction for all but the primary residence.
- second home/first investment property/ vacation property will have
no mortage deduction and no additional tax
- third home will carry a 10% annual tax
- fourth home will carry a 20% annual tax
- fifth home 30% tax
- sixth home 40% tax
- etc

discourage flipping:
- 35% tax on sale of property held for less then 6 months
- for property held less 6 months to 1 year will prorate down to 0%

i'm not sure what the legal issues are in putting something on the
ballet, i'm a tech person like yourself, maybe you can ask on your
site for someone with experience in that? or a section of your site
for brainstorming this?

#housing

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314   Bruce   2008 Jan 26, 9:18pm  

HelloKitty,

From discussion of leading indicators at Calculated Risk - the surveys produced by the National Association of Home Builders appear to be an accurate marker of turning points in housing.

Their scoring breaks pessimistic or optimistic several months in advance of major directional changes and, theoretically at least, give you and I and all our friends a heads-up when everyone else is dozing.

When I see four consecutive upticks in the survey, I'll be fairly confident we've cleared the markets and are in recovery.

315   justme   2008 Jan 26, 11:56pm  

Boston Transplant,

Now I'm sorry I asked. Urban Dictionary is in fact a favorite reference site if mine, but of course it has more expressions than anyone could learn in a lifetime. And not watching MTV is not helping me.

316   Bruce   2008 Jan 27, 12:00am  

I meant to mention, the surveys are reported with regional figures, with CA included in a broad 'western' category. I don't know if the data specifically for SF is available for 'drilling down' to your local information.

Clearly, SF and environs are following their own timetable.

317   justme   2008 Jan 27, 12:57am  

Dennis N,

New slogan: Come to busty California

318   justme   2008 Jan 27, 1:01am  

Owee, I just made an original slogan. Neither yahoo nor google show any matches. Therefore it must not exist :-)

Thanks to DennisN for providing the inspiration.

"Come to busty california"

319   justme   2008 Jan 27, 1:20am  

Here's a question: I'm thinking it might start to become a good time to buy a condo in Florida, or at least browse around and get a feel for how the market is developing there..

What is the best web site to use? Trulia certainly covers Florisa, but the maps do not un-zoom outside each metro area, and I have a hard time gaining a perspective of the place.

320   DennisN   2008 Jan 27, 2:08am  

"Don't be a boob: come to busty California."

321   Richmond   2008 Jan 27, 3:10am  

OT,

I just went onto Zillow after remembering that it was a topic of earlier conversation. We all know about Zillow, the one way valuations, up. (NOT !)
Anyway, the house in which I was raised has actually fallen 20.1% since last summer when I last looked. It's still way, way, too high, but at least it's headed in the right direction. I've always expected this area of the Bay to crack first so maybe there is a glimmer of hope for you folks in the South Bay. Keep your fingers crossed.

322   Richmond   2008 Jan 27, 3:22am  

P.S.
The houses that are selling are selling for 25ish % less than a year ago and sales volumes are lame.
Mind you, this is just a sample from one working class neighborhood. Probably high five figure incomes.

323   Peter P   2008 Jan 27, 6:04am  

“Don’t be a boob: come to busty California.”

Warning: California contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer, birth defects, or other reproductive harm.

(I remember seeing something like this on a CCF cartoon.)

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