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I see Arnold has been drinking the REIC kool-aide:
www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/04/EDF7UQMJL.DTL
"The limit for these loans is $417,000. Now, while that limit works well in most of the country, where the median housing price is $217,000, it doesn't work as well in many parts of California where, as we all know, homes are far more expensive. This means that Californians generally need larger home loans, even for starter homes."
This means that Californians generally need larger home loans, even for starter homes.
True, but people do not need to live in California!
Any GSE "limit" above 0.00 is highly problematic.
http://www.imf.org/external/np/sta/ir/gbr/eng/curgbr.pdf
Above is the official international reserve statement of UK government up to 2007 Dec.
Note the total foreign reserve in US $B (both central government and monetary authorities) is only $40 + $57 = $97B. How UK central government and monetary authorities combined hold $315B US Treasury??
If I am not mistaken in interpreting the UK government statements, then I can deduce that most of the $315B US Treasury is in fact held by Channel Islands and Isle of Man.
So, who is buying from Channel Islands and Isle of Man?
What site should I go to for posting the data above for expert verification? I am not an expert in reading international government settlement statements, so I want to check with those who understand how to read these things to see what they think.
UK, Japan and China are always the big buyers and Brazil seems to think it adds credibility I guess.
they all just print currency and exchange it with one anthter - how does that help anyone?
Here's a thought - try going to a bank and getting 100k out in cash. I bet they freak (because they don't have it or are not expecting you to show up). Here's another thought, go to your gold (coin dealer) with that 100k and see if he/she has inventory to fill your order for 110 gold eagles or whatever. It is very interesting to see reactions when you do what are in the big scheme of things very small actions.
I know for fact that physical gold is hard to come by, at least in the retail level.
I went 50% physical several months ago. At the same time, I exchanged some info with gold bugs in Hong Kong and China on the physical situation. It is very hard to come by physical gold in retail market. If you just want a small coin, or a small bar, sure. But if you want to drop $50K (not to mention $100K or above) and exchange for bullion, you can walk through Hong Kong island whole day without coming up with enough inventory.
There are quite a few pieces of news of physical gold inventory going dry in major cities in China for the next six months. Some first-movers went to smaller cities and hoard all the physical gold they can get their hands on.
I really think the machine of writing bad bad loans is actually continuing but GSE is buying them - included bad and shitty refi's being dumped on GSE. Just wait one year and another 10% plunge in housing it will cause defaults at fanny/freddie/fha to need a bailout.
The only shocking thing is the head of OFHEO (Mr Stockton) is actually speaking AGAINST rasing limit to 729k. This looks like typical CYA behavior - now he can say I told you so when fnma cracks. The REAL question is what will lending look like AFTER the government bails out GSE? No doubt more 'stricter guidelines' followed by another crash bailout every few years.
Dont the airlines/railways operate on periodic bankruptcy/bailout as a business model? Looks like mortgages will be the same going forward.
Without 20% down payment as the norm you are going to have widespread massive default everytime there is a hiccup in the housing market or a small recession/job loss locally so only the us taxpaper would be dumb enough to insure/buy those loans on an ongoing basis right? government controlled mortgage market is here to stay. May as well move to France.
OO,
You can ask Mish. I think yours is an interesting observation. There might be a simple explanation, which still would be educational. Update us with whatever you have learned.
Paul,
Japan and China EARNED their US Treasury. Goods changed hand as USD flows in their way. We print something, but we get something.
My main suspicion is, the UK purchase of US Treasury is completely out of thin air, no goods changed hand. We print something out of Channel Islands, we get nothing.
Channel Island and Isle of Man have always been notorious for rich people hiding money in the banks there - think tax havens.
I just got a reply from CR, he thinks the Channel Island purchases could be explained by Oil exporters because there have been some buying from the Middle East coming from tax havens before.
He referred me to consult with Brad Setser, who seems to be the expert in this field.
HK,
Excellent point of the airline/railroad model of perpetual insolvency. I don't know about 20% down but you're right, without at least some cushion the slightest ripple will look like a tidal wave. I'm coming around to your way of thinking.
Asia and Europe markets head south, emergency rate cut coming. Prediction: Markets likely yawn, no up move on news. Or maybe Ben recognizes the potential yawn, which itself might be damaging creating perception of impotent fed. Probably they let it slide deep this time before any action.
Everybody recognizes it's not working.
I heard some analysts saying that if the Fed eases to 1.75% that this will essentially rescue and bottom housing. I think NOT.
I once had relations with a Manx (isle of man) trollop in Galway Ireland, many moons ago. Amazing legs and interesting view of the world. I don't think she is buying any treasuries. I think she may have given me crabs.
this show called 'buy me' is on HGTV, people trying to sell crapshacks.
this lady refused to sell her home for 185k, wanted 200k so she declines offer and pulls it off to 'wait fer spring'. ive seen this so much, whats the word for this pulleroffNwaitferspring? Ive noticed the majority of listings (2 out of 3) have been expired/pulled off not sold.....gotta be a few years of pent up sellers.....and they are all going to relist _right_ about _ now_.
HK,
There are so many townsfolk out there that are waiting for the turnaround that is not coming. All these people that get their primary information from MSM sources alone, and that now understand it's bad but "we'll sell 'er when she turns around, it's always does". Yes, but not this spring, not next, and not the one after that, or even probably the one after that. And by the way, your cost of living will have skyrocketed 70% by that time.
It's so easy to forget that even now the masses have no idea what's going on, or what's coming.
And agreed, it will be amazing to see the spring both the spring inventory increase and the REIC's attempt to cover and spin it.
I have a very racist friend back in CA....
I called him up and told him that the reddest-state in the union went 75% to 25% for Obama.
He then told me he just got back from the polls and he voted for Obama. Racist guys have voted in great majority for a NIGG..er rather than HillBilly.
I’d like to be the first to congratulate President McCain.
The McCain-Huckabee combination will be unstoppable.
So between McCain and Mrs. Bill Clinton who would bankrupt the country fastest with further deficit spending?
McCain with the disastrous 100 year Iraqcupation boondoggle or Mrs Bill Clinton with healthcare free for all plus nationalization of all mortgages. If Billary didnt want to bail out the mortgage industry I would have more respect for her.
Take this, Bay Area:
http://infotech.indiatimes.com/articleshow/2759230.cms
Cisco to up India headcount to 360,000
[ TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 05, 2008 06:15:20 PM]
MUMBAI: To increase its talent pool in India, IT networking major Cisco System India Pvt Ltd has decided to increase its headcount six fold to nearly 360,000 in the next five years.
The IT giant has announced a series of initiatives to nurture networking professionals, which would translate to an addition of nearly 360,000 engineers within the next five years.
....
>> Cisco to up India headcount to 360,000
Yes, take this shitty bay area ...
McCain with the disastrous 100 year Iraqcupation boondoggle or Mrs Bill Clinton with healthcare free for all plus nationalization of all mortgages.
I am all for ending the Iraq war reasonably but it is arguable that welfare is more evil than warfare.
I am a fan of India but the South Asia sub-continent does not look very stable.
I am not a fan of India, smelly dirty place.
Lets see, our choices are
Boomer big ass white woman,
Boomer Brother
Boomer Cult member
Boomer big eye'd freak
or War hero.
Me, I'll take the war hero.
Perhaps some McCain slogans
"I was getting beaten by Charlie when she was gettin high and sucking dick"
"I was voting in the Senate when her husband was gettin high and gettin his dick sucked"
Peter P, King of Sashimi, non-Boomer M.D.? Hmmm.
I must say that Fred Thompson did a really good job as the D.A. in Law and Order, certainly he would make a gdod President, especially if he had that hot blonde assitant D.A. as Veep.
but then again there's always Gopher from the love boat.
I’ll take the war hero.
Thus far, [the Silent Generation] are the only generation from which no president of the United States was ever selected.
X-man, have you seen the PBS show Boomer Century? I am still having nightmares. Let's see if I can sum up the finances section: one third well off, one third destitute, one third "What, me worry?". The narrator ends by saying Boomers could continue to have a world changing impact as they age... or, just maybe, they could turn inward and totally screw the generations following them. Oh, its different this time all right... I fear we could be entering the neverending selloff (not to finish until 2046, the end of the Boomer Century).
surfer-x Says:
“I was getting beaten by Charlie when she was gettin high and sucking dickâ€
How drunk would a guy have to be to let _that_ happen? http://tinyurl.com/34qzz6
@ HelloKitty,
This country is already bankrupt - now it is just a matter of degree!
"one third well off, one third destitute"
Make no mistake, regardless of where they fall economically (the drugs were evenly dispersed!)
Sorry EBGuy, "Boomer Century" ends when we SAY it ends! If you listen at all to Dick Morris (former Clinton adviser) everyone else is ALREADY tired of them! Look how well Obama did last night? White guys voting for a black dude rather than giving their vote to Hillary. In state after state. Whether or not you're an Obama guy (that HAS to be encouraging)
McCain-Huck might be the best of all possible tickets.
I didn't vote in the primary yesterday but if I had I'd have voted Osama-Yomama if I could, because I want him to get the nomination instead of Hitlery.
Then it comes down to: McCain and Huck win, yey
Or, Osama-lama-dingdong wins in which case I get to say "It's not my government, do I look like a N- to you?" lol.
It's a win-win.
RE: McCain-Huckster, I'm down wit McCain, but the Huckster is lame. Who the hell wants a bible-thumping ex-fatso for pres? What kind of a image of Americans does that send out to the rest of the world?
On the other hand, it couldn't be worse that Bill Clinton's image.
I am all for Obama......his "CHANGE" campaign is gaining traction and I would not be surprised to see him getting the nomination.
This country needs more faith-based programs. So long as we are not ruled by priests, I prefer to have a Christian government.
We need a counter balance to the "religion of peace." I rather have my children worship JC.
This country needs more faith-based programs. So long as we are not ruled by priests, I prefer to have a Christian government.
We need a counter balance to the “religion of peace.†I rather have my children worship JC.
Then have you and your kids keep it to yourselves. I don't see how you consider your self libertarian-leaning and reconcile wanting government-sponsored religious programs? It's hypocritical.
I do not even consider myself religious. But if we are not vigilant, other religions will promote themselves here. Before long, we will see people getting stoned (not the boomer kind of stoned) for non-crimes.
I do not even consider myself religious. But if we are not vigilant, other religions will promote themselves here.
So, you're arguing promoting one religion in particular (Christianity) merely to prevent other "worse" religions from gaining traction?
Actually, your concerns should make you even more an advocate for separation of church and state.
@skibum,
The bible-thumpin' I could live without but I applaud anyone that get's a handle on their weight problem. In that regard I think it is a good example for many Americans.
Hey all you people clogging up the h/c system (and your arteries) I used to be a slob and you can change too! :)
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Fannie Mae has the implicit backing of US taxpayers. That is, Fannie Mae, a private company, assumes that US taxpayers will be forced to bail it out no matter how many bad loans it buys from banks.
But the guarantee was always implicit, never written down and specifically agreed to. Is it possible that Fannie Mae will go bankrupt, and Congress will have the courage to refuse to put middle class taxpayers on the hook for ultra expensive mortgages in California and New York?
What happens then?
Fannie Mae has very little cash of its own, but is just a conduit for packaging loans into mortgage-backed bonds. It is the holders of those bonds who will suffer the losses.
#housing