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All Cash Offer - Tax Consequences


               
2010 Nov 8, 6:54am   4,162 views  10 comments

by vain   follow (0)  

We just wrote a $425k cash offer on a home. The property requires all cash due to it missing necessities; the previous owner gutted it prior to foreclosure.

I've got $280k to my name and all my aunts and uncles have all chipped in to loan me the other $145k. Once I purchase the property, I will replace all the necessities and make it habitable. I will then take out a $200k loan against the property to repay my aunts and uncles, and have a bit of pocket cash.

Does anyone know about the tax consequences of the $145k cash loan? What's the best approach for this scenario to avoid/minimize taxes? I expect to repay the full amount with a cash-out refinance within 3 months.

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1   bubblesitter   @   2010 Nov 8, 7:25am  

Hmm...May be IRS will think 145K as a gift. But I may be wrong.

2   SFace   @   2010 Nov 8, 7:27am  

Appears none. This is not a gift. The free interest is a gift, however, it would be under the 11K or so threshold before it is subject to gift tax. Document that the cash is a loan and will be repaid.

3   vain   @   2010 Nov 8, 7:28am  

Yeah that's what I was thinking too. But I've been reading and there may be 2 alternatives.

-I can pay them interest on the $145k loan to avoid taxes. But they'd have to claim the interest earned as income. I really want to avoid this route since it most likely will trouble them when they do their taxes.

-I can get gifts from each aunt and uncle under the legal limit for gifting. Not too sure how this works.

I definitely will consult a CPA/tax advisor but would like some input so I can have items to discuss with the CPA.

4   dittomichel   @   2010 Nov 8, 7:38am  

I think you have to draw up a promissory note to document cash is a loan subject to repayment. Try a CPA or better yet an estate atty to get this done for your family. Congrats on your new home. Happy remodeling.

5   vain   @   2010 Nov 8, 8:04am  

Thanks dittomichel. We'll have to see if our offer gets accepted first. There may be competition.

6   Mark_LA   @   2010 Nov 8, 8:33am  

vain says

-I can pay them interest on the $145k loan to avoid taxes. But they’d have to claim the interest earned as income. I really want to avoid this route since it most likely will trouble them when they do their taxes.

No, you get a 0% loan from them (if they agree & it appears they do based on your statements). Make sure you create, and preferably notarize, a promissory note for this: http://bit.ly/nolopromissory . They earn nothing from this, so no need for them to claim the interest as earned income on their taxes.

You then need to count the interest savings as a gift. The IRS considers the short-term (less than 3-years) AFR (minimum interest that must be charged on loans) for loans between relatives to be 0.49% annually. So in effect, you'll be getting a gift of $710.50 per year from your relatives: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rr-10-26.pdf .

As SF ace stated above, this is below the $11k threshold, so it isn't subject to a gift tax.

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