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Anna Eshoo, Enemy Of Cheap Housing


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2008 Apr 10, 10:35am   30,101 views  264 comments

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I tried to reply to a spam mail Congresswoman Anna Eshoo sent me, but my reply bounced because communication with our "representatives" is apparently one-way only, so I'll post my reply here. I hope it helps her lose a lot of votes in the next election.

From: Patrick Killelea p@patrick.net
Date: April 10, 2008 4:50:51 PM PDT
To: ca14ima .pub@mail.house.gov
Subject: Re: Message From Rep. Anna G. Eshoo

NO NO NO!

STOP IT. STOP keeping housing UNaffordable.

We want CHEAPER houses, not more debt! Are you listening?

Do a poll. Everyone I meet wants cheaper housing. No one wants more debt!

That means you should do everything you can to REDUCE conforming loan limits.

Are you listening?

Patrick

Here's her spam to me:

On Apr 10, 2008, at 9:49 AM, ca14ima.pub@mail.house.gov wrote:

April 10, 2008

Dear Mr. Killelea,

On February 8th, the House and Senate passed an economic package designed to help stimulate the economy by assisting millions of Americans who are struggling in this downturn. This bill provides for tax rebates to 130 million households, including seniors and the disabled, along with tax deductions to help small businesses, and an increase in conforming loan limits for home mortgages to bolster the housing market. The legislation is a bipartisan effort and will specifically target those who need the resources most. Only those who have social security numbers and file their 2008 taxes will receive rebate checks. This leaves no loop-holes for undocumented immigrants to qualify.

The legislation has been sent to the President for his signature.

The following are important specifics of the bill.
(blather about giving away tax dollars what-a-good-girl-I-am deleted)

Housing Provisions
oThe package would boost the size of mortgage loans that the Federal Housing Administration could insure and that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could purchase.
oThe FHA loan limit would be permanently increased to a maximum of $720,750 from $362,000.
oFannie and Freddie's conforming loan limits would be increased for one year only to a maximum of $729,750 from $417,000.

This stimulus package is timely, targeted and temporary and represents an important first step toward stimulating the economy.

Sincerely,
Anna G. Eshoo
Member of Congress

#housing

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132   StuckInBA   2008 Apr 13, 2:10pm  

I agree with many of the arguments in that WSJ article. Policy or not, inflation is the end game. So the distinction is whether to announce it or do it in a stealth way as has been done till now. The risks in that approach seem lesser of the evils to my non-economist mind. And US is in a position today to inflate and get out of all types of debt. Tomorrow it may not be able to pull that off.

Nationalization of all the mortgages is perhaps a forgone conclusion. But that by itself is hardly going to help.

133   Malcolm   2008 Apr 13, 2:11pm  

Higher taxes lead to inflation and deceptive growth since savings lose value. In another word stagflation.

Despite what people say, taxes cause inflation and hurt profits. People pay more, to make less. It sucks all the way around.

IMO some effort is warranted to keep the money supply flowing, but interest rates should be allowed to float, and savers should be the ones supplying banks with the money so that they aren't hurt by the phenomenon of below inflation rate interest rates. Banks should be competing with each other to get savers to put their money in, not just running to the reserve to perpetuate a ponzi scheme by exchanging bad loans when the market clearly wouldn't pay anything for them.

134   Peter P   2008 Apr 13, 2:20pm  

Policy or not, inflation is the end game.

No, deflation is the endgame.

Despite what people say, taxes cause inflation and hurt profits.

Absolutely. Our hero, Ronald Reagan, cured stagflation by cutting tax.

135   Peter P   2008 Apr 13, 2:23pm  

Flat tax!!!

Compare this with TurboTax. :)

http://www.cse.org/flattax/index.php

136   Jimbo   2008 Apr 13, 2:26pm  

Of course I disagree with you: we need to raise more taxes to fix our collapsing infrastructure and to stop borrowing so much from foreign powers.

But inflation is preferable to nationalizing the banking industry, as I am sure you will agree.

137   EBGuy   2008 Apr 13, 2:26pm  

Banks should be competing with each other to get savers to put their money in, not just running to the reserve to perpetuate a ponzi scheme by exchanging bad loans when the market clearly wouldn’t pay anything for them.

I posted this last week but didn't get any comment (it was near the end of a thread). At any rate, the bid-to-cover ratio at the last TSLF auction was less than 1. Are we turning a corner, or just taking a breather before the rest of the SHTF.
Primary dealers submitted only $33.95 billion of bids for the $50.0 billion of Treasury securities auctioned, the Federal Reserve said. The auction is part of a new $200 billion program aimed at helping Wall Street dealers, called the Term Securities Lending Facility.

Of the three TSLF auctions held so far, this auction was the only one where the amount on offer exceeded the amount that was bid.

138   Peter P   2008 Apr 13, 2:29pm  

Of course I disagree with you: we need to raise more taxes to fix our collapsing infrastructure and to stop borrowing so much from foreign powers.

We need to privatize our collapsing infrastructure.

As long as we have a strong military, it is fine to borrow from foreign powers. LOL :lol:

But inflation is preferable to nationalizing the banking industry, as I am sure you will agree.

Of course.

139   Malcolm   2008 Apr 13, 2:36pm  

Actually Jimbo, I don't disagree with you. Those purposes, again IMO, are legitimate government expenditures. MORE funds are desperately needed in the areas of infrastructure at all levels.

My problem with taxes are when they are used for wasteful purposes, like 30 billion for 'counseling troubled borrowers.' Like I said, investing that money in solar with private partners would supply a pretty nice percentage of the total residential electric demand.

140   StuckInBA   2008 Apr 13, 2:52pm  

No, deflation is the endgame.

Depends on when your game ends ;-)

But to quote Bill Fleckenstein, "In a world of fiat currencies, all roads lead to inflation."

141   Peter P   2008 Apr 13, 2:52pm  

My problem with taxes are when they are used for wasteful purposes, like 30 billion for ‘counseling troubled borrowers.’

Taxes feed wasteful purposes. The *only* way to cut wasteful spending is to cut taxes.

MORE funds are desperately needed in the areas of infrastructure at all levels.

If we privatize the infrastructure, the market will fix it efficiently. Gee, even I am tired of cheer-leading for Free Market. :)

142   northernvirginiarenter   2008 Apr 13, 3:18pm  

Higher taxes, significantly higher taxes, are now an inevitability as our fed, state, and local governments are not going to be able to borrow as easily and cheaply any longer. An era has passed.

Budget deficients just became significantly more difficult to manage. We are facing a situation where massive spending cuts are likely to be paired with significant tax rate increases.

Welcome to the new United States of America. :-)

It may take a couple few years for this to really begin to play out, and there is no way to put lipstick on it.

143   northernvirginiarenter   2008 Apr 13, 3:48pm  

Auction Rate Securities courtesy of NYT

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/13/business/13cash.html?pagewanted=1

But even though Wall Street heavyweights and major corporations have been stung, many of them also appear to have bailed out of the market well ahead of individuals. At the end of 2006, institutional investors held about 80 percent of all auction-rate securities issues, according to Treasury Strategies, a consulting firm in Chicago. At the end of last year that portion had fallen to just 30 percent.

“A number of corporations understood there was a rising threat to their securities; there had been failures and warnings,” Anthony Carfang, chief executive of Treasury Strategies, said in a conference call late last month.

Lewis D. Lowenfels, a securities lawyer at Tolins & Lowenfels in New York, represents several investors who are stranded in auction-rate securities. “If the evidence shows that large corporate clients were being advised to unload these securities at the same time that the investing public was being counseled to purchase the same securities,” he said, “one begins to slip over the line from questions of due diligence and suitability into the realm of securities fraud.”

144   Peter P   2008 Apr 13, 3:59pm  

Budget deficients just became significantly more difficult to manage. We are facing a situation where massive spending cuts are likely to be paired with significant tax rate increases.

With enough spending cuts and privatization, we can even use some new tax cuts.

The reality is that if we cut tax, wasteful spending will have to disappear. On the other hand, essential programs will be picked up by the private sectors and managed efficiently.

People need to understand that they are entitled to nothing.

145   Jimbo   2008 Apr 13, 4:07pm  

The reality is that if we cut tax, wasteful spending will have to disappear.

That is not how it has worked so far. All that has happened when taxes are cut, is that borrowing has shot up.

We might be having to finally pay the piper for 20 years of Republican deficit spending though. Through in the increased cost of borrowing to the increased cost of food and the increased cost of gasoline and a lot of people are going to be seeing a lower standard of living.

146   Jimbo   2008 Apr 13, 4:09pm  

Through, throw, throuwgh. I think the scotch is finally catching up to me. No more posting for me tonight.

147   DennisN   2008 Apr 13, 4:39pm  

Here's another guy's idea to fix the housing mess.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/14/opinion/14leamer.html?ref=opinion

the last thing the Fed should offer is low interest rates. But that’s what it did — now it doesn’t matter what the rates are; not even low levels can entice buyers when house prices are declining.

The only solution is for the federal government to offer a temporary 5 percent tax rebate — up to $25,000 — for first-time home buyers.

A little bit of wisdom and a bogus plan for action. Don't you like how academics say things like "the ONLY solution...."?

148   David J   2008 Apr 13, 6:42pm  

Did anyone read the recent comments Paul Volker made about Ben Bernanke? If we must have a Federal Reserve why couldn't we have a Fed Chairman like Volker? Instead we get bend over Ben the bankers bitch! I wonder if his banking industry cronies are at least giving him the pleasure of a reach around? The rest of us sure aren't getting one!

149   DennisN   2008 Apr 14, 12:26am  

The World Bank is making noise about how the "international community" should help out in regards food prices.
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080414/finance_meetings.html
How come they don't include OPEC in their "international community"? If OPEC lowered prices to $50 per barrel, the food crisis would go away.

150   Peter P   2008 Apr 14, 2:38am  

The only solution is for the federal government to offer a temporary 5 percent tax rebate — up to $25,000 — for first-time home buyers.

Hopefully there will be no income limits.

I hate it enough when there is a demand-side tax rebate for consumers. I absolutely hate it when I don't get a penny of that rebate. We are low-income worker bees and we cannot even deduct student loan interests!

Those who support Democrats should get this into their heads, they think you are "making too much money" and they will give your money to someone else. YOU WILL NOT BENEFIT FROM THEIR POLICIES.

151   Peter P   2008 Apr 14, 2:39am  

A little bit of wisdom and a bogus plan for action. Don’t you like how academics say things like “the ONLY solution….”?

The only solution is to dismantle the welfare state.

152   Peter P   2008 Apr 14, 2:52am  

The World Bank is making noise about how the “international community” should help out in regards food prices.

They can help out by producing more food. But that is simple supply and demand, right?

Robert Zoellick on Sunday said the international community has "to put our money where our mouth is" and act now to help hungry people. "It is as stark as that."

The natural solution is to let them eat cake. Giving them money to buy food is like giving FB's cheap loans to buy homes. Increasing food supply is the most sensible option.

153   DennisN   2008 Apr 14, 4:52am  

Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day.

Teach a man to fish, and he will never work again. ;)

154   thenuttyneutron   2008 Apr 14, 5:48am  

*turn on sarcasm*

Is the food supply too low, or is the demand too high? Giving them arms rather than money could also them help correct their food shortage problems.

*turns off sarcasm*

Peter I agree that the welfare state must be dismantled. This to me also includes part of our bloated military. I think a strong Navy and a decent Air Force is all we need for now. A standing army does not need to be huge. Being the world's police man is very expensive and we simply can't afford it anymore.

If you get rid of the entitlement spending, the government must also recognize the 2nd amendment to allow all of us our right to self protection. I am certain many pissed off people will try and take what they think they are entitled too.

155   thenuttyneutron   2008 Apr 14, 5:50am  

Doh!!! A mistake, the cutting and pasting got "them" and "help" switched.

156   Peter P   2008 Apr 14, 7:19am  

Jean Ziegler, U.N. special rapporteur on the right to food, has called using food crops to create ethanol "a crime against humanity."

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/04/14/world.food.crisis/?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail

I have nothing to say.

What the heck is the right to food? I can just as easily say that feeding overpopulated poor nations is a crime against Nature.

157   Refuse to buy overpriced   2008 Apr 14, 7:29am  

Patrick Killelea for Congress!

158   Jimbo   2008 Apr 14, 8:55am  

Do you even have a job Peter, or do you just post all day from work?

159   Randy H   2008 Apr 14, 9:31am  

Hey. Peter has a zero carbon footprint.

160   Malcolm   2008 Apr 14, 10:24am  

This is really funny. These guys are so screwed up they can't even issue a stern warning with teeth. So let me get this straight, someone sticks it to a bank for say 250K and the only warning is that they can't do it again for 5 years. And then they even have the disclaimer that it doesn't apply if the person was really under distress.

Some black 19 year old shoplifts a $50 shirt, it becomes a permanent record. How is this right?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/13/RE34101D2M.DTL&ref=patrick.net

"The country's two largest sources of mortgage money have a blunt warning for anyone thinking about joining the growing "walkaway" trend, where homeowners stop making payments and months later send the house keys back to their lender: You will feel the pain."

"On March 31, Fannie Mae sent out new guidelines to lenders intended for walkaways and other foreclosure situations. Fannie will now prohibit foreclosed borrowers from getting another mortgage through the giant investor for five years, unless there are "documented extenuating circumstances." In those cases, the mortgage prohibition is for three years."

161   Peter P   2008 Apr 14, 10:45am  

Peter has a zero carbon footprint.

Huh? :)

Do you even have a job Peter, or do you just post all day from work?

I need distractions to focus.

162   Peter P   2008 Apr 14, 10:48am  

How is this right?

You believe things ought to be right? What if it is wrong to right wrongs? Although being wrong is just being human...

163   Brand165   2008 Apr 14, 11:53am  

Well you see Malcolm, it's all about intent. The kid always intended to be a crook and steal the shirt. But the unfortunate borrower is the victim of a down housing market, a change in personal circumstances and/or the false promises of his mortgage broker. And the lender was just legally gambling; it looked good on paper.

Or maybe it's just easier to prove the intent when somebody steals a T-shirt, vs. when they send in the jingle mail or accidentally screw up a pension fund with MBS toxic waste.

164   Malcolm   2008 Apr 14, 11:55am  

Isn't it a riot? This country's economy has become so dependent on debtors that the government selectively forgives certain people with the real hope that they will go out and dig themselves in a hole again so long as certain in-crowds benefit. Punishing someone who walks away by never letting them buy under the federal program is too much of a drain on the future growth of the economy.

165   Malcolm   2008 Apr 14, 11:57am  

:)

I think the motive is the same but I concede. I'm now convinced the black kid was born that way.

166   Malcolm   2008 Apr 14, 12:06pm  

Now on the other hand, the government seems to not like people like me and others here. I find it a little too coincidental that the rebate checks cut off at an income just a little below my income for last year. It's a little strange that after mouthing off here about how we were going to do the unthinkable and either save or as some said, buy an ounce of gold, all of a sudden it is announced that the rebates are only going to people who will spend them. I paraphrase George Bush, he said something to the effect that the stimulus package includes a rebate with the intent being that people will spend it and keep the economy stimulated.

167   Malcolm   2008 Apr 14, 12:07pm  

We must be the first civilization in history to have government literally force gluttony on the population.

168   Malcolm   2008 Apr 14, 12:11pm  

Peter P Says:
April 14th, 2008 at 5:45 pm

"I need distractions to focus."

Peter, you should write comical fortune cookie messages. That one would have cracked me up at lunch yesterday.

169   OO   2008 Apr 14, 12:18pm  

can't believe you guys are still posting here on this saddest day of the year...

170   Brand165   2008 Apr 14, 12:41pm  

Does filing taxes make you sad, OO?

171   Peter P   2008 Apr 14, 1:06pm  

can’t believe you guys are still posting here on this saddest day of the year…

April is the cruelest month.

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