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Those who walk away...what will eventually happen...


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2010 Dec 29, 8:55am   23,632 views  115 comments

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There are many types of loans out there. Some are non-recourse (purchase money), but many are recourse loans even in the state of California (loans for second homes, second mortgages, re-financings, HELOCs, etc.).

http://washingtonindependent.com/88445/strategic-default-penalties-threaten-struggling-homeowners

and this one gives another threat-- Fannie Mae will "leave you on your own" for seven years if you walk away:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/37901895/Fannie_Mae_Walk_Away_and_You_Will_Pay

Any thoughts on whether the debts of these walkaways will catch up with them, even years down the road?

#housing

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114   bubblesitter   2011 Oct 5, 8:54am  

StoutFiles says

A lot of people got burned on that risk and now they don't want to own up for it.

I heard,now lots of responsible people who bought after 2004 can't refinance their mortgages.

115   corntrollio   2011 Oct 5, 10:22am  

fatguy says

California recently passed SB458, which prevents deficiency judgments on junior liens in a short sale.

Whether it's retroactive or not remains to be seen.

My short sale was in '08. If I'm sued, SB458 will be one of my defenses. If I lose, my only true recourse is Chapter 13 BK. I will fight the whole way.

Why would it be retroactive? Do you see any language in the law that suggests it would be?

The practical effect of SB458 is that second mortgagees and third mortgagees will just stop agreeing to short sales unless they get what they want (more money). This is not really a good law.

fatguy, did you take a cash-out refi?

bubblesitter says

I heard,now lots of responsible people who bought after 2004 can't refinance their mortgages.

They weren't *that* responsible -- they paid bubble prices voluntarily and bid up prices with stupid loans. How many people do you know that were truly responsible who can't pay their mortgage now? I've never seen one mentioned in a media article, despite the fact that sometimes the media refers to them as "victims."

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