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Intriguing suggestions. Not sure about oven cleaning, but I bet you can use it to grow cabbage & lettuce.

I actually sleep better at night, when I snuggle under my dooner full of $100 bills.

Nice quote on people living in the Marina from this article:
http://tinyurl.com/7sxlz

Reality suggests that the only people qualified to live in the Marina are Olympic swimmers -- those capable of treading back to shore after the geologic forces turn the faux neighborhood to its original watery state.

Also - MP has to be a realtor, the way he talks about the market is way too realtor like…

Poser is more like it. Uh, oh --did I just violate my own standard about not getting personal? 8-O Me SO sorry....

I could never live in an area that had little or no relationship to the outdoors. I need a tree at LEAST once in awhile! Other than the houses with bay views on the main drag across from the water, the place is wall to wall cement. Quite generic and character-less.

Jack-
Sounds like you're in a Primeâ„¢ location--at least for the likes of you and me.

Interesting historical trivia - at least I'd not heard this:

A couple of miles northwest along the city’s shore, the Marina District is also partly built on landfill—of a somewhat different kind. After the massive 1906 earthquake destroyed most of the city, developers needed someplace to dump all the rubble from the downtown area. They used the crumbled remains of buildings to extend yet another portion of the city out into the water, helping to create the site of the Panama-Pacific International Exposition to celebrate the opening of the Panama Canal in 1915.

The truth of the matter is people just don't care,'' said Aldo Congi, vice president of McGuire Real Estate. ``Those that want to live in the Marina are willing to take the chance. There is so much confidence among consumers now that nothing seems to matter -- and that includes earthquakes.''

MP,
It would appear that consumers of RE in Marina appear to have high confidence and tend not to care about risks?
Could it be they have been a little too easy with their spending?
Just like everybody else I bet.

I actually sleep better at night, when I snuggle under my dooner full of $100 bills.

The aroma of a fresh $100 stack is one of the most wonderful, almost as wonderful as the smell of BBQ lobster.

The aroma of a fresh $100 stack is one of the most wonderful, almost as wonderful as the smell of BBQ lobster.

Haven't tried sleeping with BBQ lobster.

How about barbequed 100 dollar bills you sick-o’s….

But... but you can neither eat them nor spend them...

But… but you can neither eat them nor spend them…

But you can sleep with them apparently. :mrgreen:

How about barbequed 100 dollar bills you sick-o’s….

But… but you can neither eat them nor spend them…

Ahhhhhhhhh!

Got a love those intangibles.

BTW, AntiTroll, do you call them spiny lobsters or crayfishes down there?

It sounds weird to some people probably, but I actually care more about having outside space (tree cover, yard, decks, views, greenbelt, etc) than I do about inside space. I would not give away too much of my yard for more square footage

Jack-
That's what's so Primeâ„¢ about our nabes. Even if our places are on the small side, our backyards are awesome! It's very cool to feel part of nature, vs. living in some gated, Orwellian community that strives to subdue it.

Just as an example:
http://tinyurl.com/9tnrz

Nature is Primeâ„¢

As Farrah Fawcett so eloquently said in Cannonball run "I love tree's!"

Trees are Prime.

Peter P,

Generally, (in my humble experience) we have:-
Lobsters,
Balmain Bugs,
Yabbies,
Prawns,

Man, now i'm feeling hungry and it's only 10 in the morning.

As Farrah Fawcett so eloquently said in Cannonball run “I love tree’s!”

Back then, I would have liked to been a tree.

Man, now i’m feeling hungry and it’s only 10 in the morning.

Time for a cold lobster. ;)

Kurt S, that is a nice view. Perhaps I should move to the Marin county.

People from New Zealand call them crayfish.

On today's subject ... I wrote about the bankruptcy bill a bit today - figured it was one of many factors that may conspire to shake people up later this year, the others are:

Derivatives
Rising Home Inventory and Stalling Home Prices
Rising Oil and Gas Prices
Politics and War
Higher Short Term Rates
Greenspan Retirement

The excerpt:

The recent rise in bankruptcy filings and the potential for a mad rush to file for bankruptcy in October could have a chilling effect on the confidence that many people have in managing their debt. Many of the provisions of the new law take effect on October 17th and in the coming months there will be a stepped up campaign by bankruptcy professionals on afternoon television and radio to compel individuals to take advantage of this last opportunity to clean up their balance sheet without the pain that will be involved after October 17th.

The post:
When Confidence Fails

Cheers!

OT: Toll’s great earnings did not help their stock much. When people sell on good news, they are expecting worse news.

Interesting how contrary the movements can be.
Maybe people are selling because they bought expecting the news.

Buy on rumour sell on fact.

NICE view...That is your dock and or view, right? Now THAT’s prime!

Yeah--the views are incredible. Tam, clouds, sunsets--dramatic changes over a few minutes!
Nope, that's the neighbor's dock, which they never use. The birds love it though!
Ours dock is half the size of that, but I use it almost every day! For the record, our home is quite modest (2 BR condo). But, we love it here--and that's what matters.

"“Some gated, Orwellian community”. I would love to live THERE someday! "

Just you wait: courtesy of "Homeland Security"

““Some gated, Orwellian community”. I would love to live THERE someday! ”

Just you wait: courtesy of “Homeland Security”

Is the community built in 1984?

Jack Says:

MAYWW…
naaaahh ….. for a minute there HARM, I thought we had a new acronym!

Sorry for the delay, but this one took a little time:
PAWNS (Pale Attractive Wayward Newsworthy Sweethearts)

Np - always happy to supply helpful new acronyms :mrgreen:

I tried searching for houses on realtor.com and then checking prices on ditech.com. It took me about 40 minutes (with interruptions) to check about 6 houses, so I give up. I didn't discover anything earthshattering--was checking SF and San Mateo/Foster City, and all I discovered was that for $700K+, I can be the proud owner of a remodeled 2 br 1 bath house with triple digit square footage. Yeehaa.

BayQT is right about ditech.com's calculator having its limits. Can't check condos or places with unit #s, and some houses, like she said, come up with 0$ as previous sale value.

New thread per GreenCanopy's request: "Land Prices & the Property Bubble"

Hey Harm ( SactoQT, Peter),

How do I get a topic to one of you (or whomever) to start a new thread? I think I missed the process somewhere along the line.

BayQT~

BayQT, you can:

(1) Post your idea under "Lurker's Turn", which is meant to be a meta-thread where anyone can post ideas for new threads (didn't work out that way 100%, but oh well...), or

(2) Register for a WordPress user ID (see link on main page under "Meta" section) and then email it to Patrick (p@patrick.net) asking permission to become a threadmaster yourself.

Oh, cool! I registered earlier today and then emailed Patrick for instructions. :-) I guess I kinda half-way figured it out myself, huh. I *do* remember that you mentioned Lurker's Turn thread but didn't know that it was where I could actually post an idea....I think I thought it was for *looking* for ideas.

I believe I've got it now. :-D Thanks much!

BayQT~

NP --and welcome to the club of Patrick.net thread moderators.
"You've taken your first step into a larger world" ;-)

:-) 8-)

BayQT~

I tried searching for houses on realtor.com and then checking prices on ditech.com. It took me about 40 minutes (with interruptions) to check about 6 houses, so I give up.

Jamie--
I think I found a quick/easy way to pull it off: I go to realtor.com, print up a bunch of property listings, then go to ditech and get the sales history. I managed to price out 20 homes during lunch today.

BayQt

If you go to the site admin page and click on the write tab, you should be able to write a post. I don't know if I'm lucky or what, but the first day I registered I got an email from Patrick saying I could post and that was that. I thought everyone who registered could post. Am I wrong?

Thanks, KurtS. Will try the printed listings method tomorrow!

If you go to the site admin page and click on the write tab, you should be able to write a post. I don’t know if I’m lucky or what, but the first day I registered I got an email from Patrick saying I could post and that was that. I thought everyone who registered could post. Am I wrong?

You're absolutely right. But after I registered I wasn't aware that I would receive email from Patrick. So not knowing what to do ( as I mentioned to Harm) I emailed Patrick regarding the procedure. I did, however, receive an email and all is well. :-D Thanks so much for your help.

BayQT~

Homeland Security has you on tape sniffing 100’s. Better get those granite windows Peter.

What's wrong with that? Have they declared them controlled substances?

Just noticed that this thread is 1 post shy of 300. Is that significant? Not really, but what the hell --why not put it over the top...