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zzyzzx
2012 Jan 4, 4:18am
Police think poisoned cat meat killed China tycoon
http://news.yahoo.com/police-think-poisoned-cat-meat-killed-china-tycoon-040529940.html
BEIJING (AP) — The sudden death of a billionaire in southern China is causing police to ask: Was it murder by cat meat?
Long Liyuan, 49, died on Dec. 23 in wealthy Guangdong province after sharing a dish of slow boiled cat meat stew, a southern delicacy, with two men over a business lunch.
One of the men, local official Huang Guang, was arrested by police on Friday on suspicion of poisoning the hotpot with a toxic herb. Police say Huang and Long had economic disputes.
Huang, deputy director of agriculture in Guangdong's Bajia township, is suspected of poisoning the hotpot with the herb Gelsemium elegans, according to a statement on the microblog of the investigating police. The poisonous plant is found in forests in parts of China.
All three men were sickened, but Long died because he consumed more of the herb, the statement said.
Long and Huang had met for lunch to discuss a business contract. Long, who ran a forestry company in Guangdong, wanted to lease a piece of woodland and develop it, the Nanfang Daily, the mouthpiece of the Guangdong Communist Party, reported Tuesday.
They had eaten at the hotpot restaurant before, but this time the cat meat dish tasted a little different, the report said.
The third man at the table, Huang Wen, a friend of Long's, was quoted by media as saying he had only eaten a little because it tasted "more bitter" than usual.
Long, who ate more than the others, soon felt dizzy and sick and was taken to a hospital where he went into cardiac arrest and died, according to the Nanfang Daily.
Police initially detained the restaurant's owner on suspicion of serving unsanitary food. But the businessman's family refused to believe it was a simple case of food poisoning, pressed the police to investigate further and offered a reward of 100,000 yuan ($16,000) for information about his death.
I see lots of people writing articles and posting stuff about China being screwed. This has been going on for four years now. China is doing great!
IMO, it's a coordinated effort to get people with money to not invest in China, to keep their money in the US. There are a lot of socialists out there who would prefer to see their fellow Americans lose money and create more wealth redistribution, than see them make more money.
In any case, how is anyone in the US or anywhere going to know what is really going on in China? They think the Chinese govt is going to share this information? Not a chance. Any information you read about China is pure speculation. If you don't speak Chinese, you don't even have the means to communicate with the Chinese govt to ask for the proper statistics, if they even gave them to you.
China is doing great!
Gentle Readers,
China is not "Corporate China." Corporate China is doing fine. The whole of China is a very different story. There are 1000 million people who are subsistence-level poor and will never be any more than that.
They are so fucked.
Regards,
Roidy
Truthplease
2012 Jan 5, 9:31pm
The one thing that China is missing during their Great Industrial Revolution is the mobilization of the workforce. China would probably clamp down on this drastically, but there is a force in China that may be hard to tame. That is the 1 in 4 Chinese men who will never have the opportunity to marry or have children.
Let's see what these men do. If you have no hope of a future, then things can get bad.
The only tool you have to tame that kind of manpower is a massive war.
zzyzzx
2012 Jan 6, 3:20am
That is the 1 in 4 Chinese men who will never have the opportunity to marry or have children.
Let's see what these men do. If you have no hope of a future, then things can get bad.
The only tool you have to tame that kind of manpower is a massive war.
There is either going to be a shortage of Vaseline, a lot of gay men in China, or a lot of scared livestock. That and prostitutes are going to be really wealthy. Probably never been a better time to be a prostitute or pimp in China.
That is the 1 in 4 Chinese men who will never have the opportunity to marry or have children.
One good war will take care of that.
TechGromit
2012 Jan 18, 1:53am
one good war will take care of that.
With who? North China Vs South China? It's estimated that as many as 70 million people were killed in World War II. So if china's population is 1.3 billion and the population is roughly 56.25% male and 43.75% female (this would give you the 1 in 4 men unmarried ratio) that gives you a male population of about 730 million. So the war would have to be big enough to kill off 182 million men, roughly twice the size of World War II deaths.
Truthplease
2012 Jan 19, 1:11am
Caveman or not, you have to do something with all those men. Otherwise they start causing problems.
Truthplease
2012 Jan 20, 1:55am
That seems to be the standard response of most Americans nowadays towards any perceived threats.
That's funny coming from a guy who is flying the flag upside down!
According to Section 8a of the United States Flag Code, "The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property."
OurBroker
2012 Jan 20, 2:51am
>>>According to Section 8a of the United States Flag Code, "The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property."
Also see:
The United States Flag Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the flag of the United States. It is Chapter 1 of Title 4 of the United States Code (4 U.S.C. § 1 et seq). This is a U.S. federal law, but there is no penalty for failure to comply with it and it is not widely enforced—indeed, the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that punitive enforcement would conflict with the First Amendment right to freedom of speech.
Truthplease
2012 Jan 21, 1:36am
In fact, the only valid question here is really just: Why the FUCK are YOU not flying YOUR flag upside down?
Because, I am not a coward who thinks a little diversity is the end of this country. We've had problems before and this too shall pass.
I swear some of you people think Obama is the anti-christ, just like the left thought Bush was.
Again, my point in this thread was that China is not completely screwed. The will have to deal with the unforseen results of the one child policy which gave them an unimaginable amount of men who will not have the opportunity to marry and have children. That would be devastating to some men and drive their passion into other areas like workplace reform, government reform, etc....
Gentle Readers,
Forget about China, we may all be ass-hammered. I occasionally look at the Baltic Dry Index as an indicator of the general health and trends of world trade. This presumably indicates economic health of world trade as a "cost of shipping" dry cargo stuff here and there over the oceans.
Well, the BDIY dropped 2.85% yesterday. This drop is starting to get to 2008 levels. The BDIY can and does change quickly due to the mostly static number of ships that carry dry bulk stuff like ores and things. BDIY goes down even with the price of oil going past $100? NFG.
Regards,
Roidy
P.S. Speaking of rim jobs, Davos is on for this week. Our Masters are deciding our fate - again. It gives me a warm, loved feeling that Billionaires are discussing what is best for me since I am incapable of making my own decisions and charting my own course. Not to put too fine a spin on it, but I don't see these shit-sucking assholes having anything but their own self-destructive interests in mind. Their cruelty wouldn't be so bad if it weren't so banal.
TheBubbleBubble
2012 Jan 26, 3:37am
Here is a chart of Hong Kong (one of China's top financial centers) banks' exposure to mainland China debt that can be viewed as a proxy for the China bubble:
Source: http://twitpic.com/71krv9 Published by Michael McDonough - Economist & Bloomberg Brief contributor
one good war will take care of that.
With who? North China Vs South China? It's estimated that as many as 70 million people were killed in World War II. So if china's population is 1.3 billion and the population is roughly 56.25% male and 43.75% female (this would give you the 1 in 4 men unmarried ratio) that gives you a male population of about 730 million. So the war would have to be big enough to kill off 182 million men, roughly twice the size of World War II deaths.
30% of russian men 18-39 died in WWII, and there weren't even any nuclear weapons being used.
China's entire reason for having such a large population is to survive wars.
I'd be willing to bet large sums of money that when the robots are building everything, life will be better for everyone. The cost of manufactured goods will trend towards the cost of raw materials.
No, it will go more the Brave New World, 1984, We (Zamyatin) - it should be the way you describe. 90% of people should not be working now. That would mean kids would have parents again, and the losers at work wouldn't be there so the real smart/productive people can have work with passion. But instead, as 1984 described for us, we must keep the proles busy all the time. Children busy learning garbage. Mom and Dad working for 30 years to pay off the McMansion. Higher Education that most use as a drinking party.
We are going to be use perpetual War as a tool to justify the use of "labor."
"The problem was how to keep the wheels of industry turning without increasing the real wealth of the world. Goods must be produced, but they need not be distributed. And in practice the only way of achieving this was by continuous warfare. War, it will be seen, accomplishes the necessary destruction, but accomplishes it in a psychologically acceptable way. In principle it would be quite simple to waste the surplus labour of the world by building temples and pyramids, by digging holes and filling them up again, or even by producing vast quantities of goods and then setting fire to them. But this would provide only the economic and not the emotional basis for a hierarchical society. What is concerned here is not the morale of masses, whose attitude is unimportant so long as they are kept steadily at work"
You think the upper echelons of societal power are going to allow the productivity of the world be used to free up for a second world wide renaissance? Then most would know how bad the system is screwing everyone.
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Gentle Reader,
You think we, the Western Democracies are screwed? Let tell you about a movie I watched a few days ago. It's called "Manufactured Landscapes". The first scenes were taken in a Chinese electrical plant. I watched closely and attentively. (I'm kind of into that sort of thing.) I saw Chinese people doing what we would have had machines doing. It was, for the moment, cheaper to have a human being do that work. It won't be cheaper for that much longer. Chinese are people and when people are subjected to that kind of work and work regime, it doesn't last forever.
I saw a young woman assembling what looked like printer nozzels. I guess that is what they were. She did so BY HAND and tested each one BY HAND. There were several hundred or more. This was obviously something that could be done by machine. It will be done that way and sooner than anyone thinks.
I stopped by the living room when the Family Members were watching "How It's Made." The subject was the manufacture of Corell Plates. No human had anything to do with the direct manufacture of these plates. All done by machine.
Unfortunately, the Chinese will have automation catch them. It caught us.
Regards,
Roidy