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JodyChunder
2013 May 17, 9:06am
But only because after WW2 the rest of the industrialized world was in ruins, our country wasn't touched, and thus we were in a situation to basically make and sell everything for everyone else and had a nice little monopoly for a few years.
That's part of it, but not entirely it. We had a lot of little secret ingredients that put us ahead of the pack.
Duke Ellington, Clark Gable, the transistor, Levi jeans, BVD, the flathead V8, log cabins, cowboys and Indians and hamburgers and french fried potatoes and Batman and Pepsi and Polio vaccines and Converse and ERECTOR Sets and Sinatra Fess Parker and Have Gun Will Travel and Robert Mitchum and King Kong and Mighty Joe Young and Walt Disney and Hanna Barbara and Raymond Loewy and Ford/Lincoln/Mercury and Cadillac and Playboy and John Ford and Woody Guthrie and Aaron Copeland and Frank Lloyd Wright and Western Electric and Elvis Presley and Doris Day and Marlon Brando and Sears Roebuck and Harley Davidson and Indian and Mickey Spillane and Jack Daniels and Smith & Wesson, The Naked and the Dead and Catcher in the Rye and John Huston and Jack Kerouac and JFK and RnB and glass packs and fried chicken and chicken fried steak and Cinerama and stereo recordings and Boeing and surfing and skateboarding and pinups and drag racing and Moog synthesizers and Fender and Gibson guitars and Marantz Hi-Fi and the Indy 500 and Lassie and 3d movies and RCA and air conditioning and...y'know...American stuff...the best shit...
Reagan ain't anywhere on that list...
Spare me your partisan politics. Reagan took care of Americans, lunch wasn't free there was a huge deficit, but life in America did get better. Job situation improved, incomes improved, living standards improved.
Reagan spent 4 trillion in borrowed money, the economy soared then crashed. Bush II spent 4 trillion in borrowed money, The economy soared then crashed. See any pattern here?
Dan8267
2013 May 17, 12:14pm
Ronald Reagan is the person most singularly responsible for creating the unjust and unproductive rich-poor gap that we experience today. That is why he is worshiped by the right and despised by everyone else.
you rather we had Carter and Mondale.. yea that worked out well ....
the liberal policies of the 70s made everyone poor.
Liberalism didnt work ... get over it!
Your ignorance never ceases to amaze. How many times do I have to tell you that Liberalism is a social philosophy, not an economic ones. The very phrase "liberal economic policies" is as meaningful as the phrase "invisible shade of red". But hey, keep fucking that chicken.
And blaming Carter for the economic problems of the 1970s is clearly a load of crap as shown by the following charts.
Hmmm, what happened in the 1970s that drained the treasury and wasted valuable resources? Oh yeah, Vietnam. And quite frankly, Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon are all to blame for that wasteful war, the lost of lives, and the economic damage that resulted from it. Nixon was always a hawk. And let's face it. War is the greatest economic waste there is.
Nevertheless, as Elizabeth Warren illustrated, families in the 1970s had way more disposable income than families today. In some ways, the economy was better then. Notsomuch the fashion, but you can't have everything.
Nonetheless, there is nothing that any president from Kennedy to Carter did that comes close to destroying the American quality of life as what that puppet Reagan did.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/NR3RqMMIwD4
That's it, tell your puppet to speed it up.
Dan8267
2013 May 17, 12:16pm
APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says
Ike, hear our prayers!
Ike, the last good Republican. Wish he were still alive to kick some ass.
New Renter
2013 May 17, 12:29pm
APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says
Reagan was a pinko cuckold who didn't have the guts to blow Frank Sinatra himself.
How do you know he and Nancy didn't tag team "Old Blue Eyes"?
marcus
2013 May 17, 1:31pm
Reagan ain't anywhere on that list...
great list, but you went a little past '61 on a few things.
being a member of that lame genration (and kind of agreeing about so many boomers being lame), I put the golden age to at least mid seventies.
I would have included a few other GM cars, and drive ins. Even though I didn't grow up in the kind of town that had drive ins.
JodyChunder
2013 May 17, 3:35pm
Goddamn, Ron must've gone through five gallons of Vitalis every week.
Hmmm, what happened in the 1970s that drained the treasury and wasted valuable resources? Oh yeah, Vietnam. And quite frankly, Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon are all to blame for that wasteful war, the lost of lives, and the economic damage that resulted from it. Nixon was always a hawk. And let's face it. War is the greatest economic waste there is.
as long as you dont mention all the social programs which failed it seems you rather talk and blame the war spending... no problem that several 100k nuclear missiles / devices were pointed as the USA. But than again, you still mistake USSR as some democracy. Did we have a choice ?
Nevertheless, as Elizabeth Warren illustrated, families in the 1970s had way more disposable income than families today. In some ways, the economy was better then. Notsomuch the fashion, but you can't have everything.
Since when was Elizabeth Warren any expert at anything.. read here bio!
a one sided social activist.. thats it! what great company or industry did she create..
shit.. she is another idiot found in the teachers lounge from Obama University.
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and i see like a true partisan you are completely brain washed into thinking 70s were better.
since wage inflation driven by unions was crippling the economy. completely brainless to think
were were better off.
That's it, tell your puppet to speed it up.
Ever work for a people like Donald Regan ? I did.. Shit loads get done very fast.
They are task masters and do it now and not tomorrow. They make things happen,...companies, industries, jobs, nations... true heros. We need more good
people like him on our side... its no wonder Ron Reagan picked him... when he said .. speed it up.. thats what we look for ! I am sure Reagan appreciated it.
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Oohrah! for the Marine.
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Born in Cambridge, Massachusetts, the son of Kathleen (née Ahearn) and William Francis Regan, he was of Irish Catholic origins. Regan earned his bachelor's degree in English from Harvard University in 1940 and attended Harvard Law School before dropping out to join the United States Marine Corps at the outset of World War II. He reached the rank of lieutenant colonel while serving in the Pacific theater, and was involved in five major campaigns including Guadalcanal and Okinawa.
The golden age, when the gravy was still hot, was between 1948 and 1961.
Agreed. But only because after WW2 the rest of the industrialized world was in ruins, our country wasn't touched, and thus we were in a situation to basically make and sell everything for everyone else and had a nice little monopoly for a few years.
good points and i agree..
Spare me your partisan politics. Reagan took care of Americans, lunch wasn't free there was a huge deficit, but life in America did get better. Job situation improved, incomes improved, living standards improved.
Reagan spent 4 trillion in borrowed money, the economy soared then crashed. Bush II spent 4 trillion in borrowed money, The economy soared then crashed. See any pattern here?
OK.. so Reagan spent 4T.. what was the alternative ? on Youtune watch the debate... all Carter was talking about was spending money on Healthcare... sounds familar ?
he wasnt talking much on job growth! thats why he lost!
so lets forget about what RR did.. and tell us what was the alternatives by the DEMS be it Carter or Mondale or even Gary Hart ?
what is it they had to offer ?
Reagan wasn't crazy enough to get the Republican nomination in today's political climate.
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't he also the president that sold drugs to a bunch of criminals so that he could buy weapons to give to known international terrorists? The same president who would have been convicted of crimes in the S&L scandal had a deal not been reached? The same president who said he would lower taxes, but raised them instead? The same president who increased public debt (the deficit) to jumpstart the economy?
Sounds more like what today's Republican's keep accusing Obama of..
So you are saying Obama is great like Reagan?
coriacci1
2013 May 18, 4:05am
GREAT THOUGHTS OF RONALD REAGAN
"A tree's a tree. How many more do you need to look at?" -- Ronald Reagan (Governor of California), quoted in the Sacramento Bee, opposing expansion of Redwood National Park, March 3, 1966
"All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk." --Ronald Reagan (Republican candidate for president), quoted in the Burlington (Vermont) Free Press, February 15, 1980
"It's silly talking about how many years we will have to spend in the jungles of Vietnam when we could pave the whole country and put parking stripes on it and still be home by Christmas." --Ronald Reagan (candidate for Governor of California), interviewed in the Fresno Bee, October 10, 1965
"...the moral equal of our Founding Fathers." --President Reagan, describing the Nicaraguan contras, March 1, 1985
"Fascism was really the basis for the New Deal." --Ronald Reagan, quoted in Time, May 17, 1976
"...a faceless mass, waiting for handouts." --Ronald Reagan, 1965. (Description of Medicaid recipients.)
"Unemployment insurance is a pre-paid vacation for freeloaders." --California Governor Ronald Reagan, in the Sacramento Bee, April 28, 1966
"We were told four years ago that 17 million people went to bed hungry every night. Well, that was probably true. They were all on a diet." --Ronald Reagan, TV speech, October 27, 1964
coriacci1
2013 May 18, 4:08am
LAST FOND MEMORIES
THE WHITE HOUSE
Office of the Press Secretary
PRESS BRIEFING BY LARRY SPEAKES
October 15, 1982
The Briefing Room
12:45pm EDT
Q: Larry, does the President have any reaction to the announcement - the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta, that AIDS is now an epidemic and have over 600 cases?
MR. SPEAKES: What's AIDS?
Q: Over a third of them have died. It's known as "gay plague." (Laughter.) No, it is. I mean it's a pretty serious thing that one in every three people that get this have died. And I wondered if the President is aware of it?
MR. SPEAKES: I don't have it. Do you? (Laughter.)
Q: No, I don't.
MR. SPEAKES: You didn't answer my question.
Q: Well, I just wondered, does the President -
MR. SPEAKES: How do you know? (Laughter.)
Q: In other words, the White House looks on this as a great joke?
MR. SPEAKES: No, I don't know anything about it, Lester.
Q: Does the President, does anyone in the White House know about this epidemic, Larry?
MR. SPEAKES: I don't think so. I don't think there's been any -
Q: Nobody knows?
MR. SPEAKES: There has been no personal experience here, Lester.
Q: No, I mean, I thought you were keeping -
MR. SPEAKES: I checked thoroughly with Dr. Ruge this morning and he's had no - (laughter) - no patients suffering from AIDS or whatever it is.
Q: The President doesn't have gay plague, is that what you're saying or what?
MR. SPEAKES: No, I didn't say that.
Q: Didn't say that?
MR. SPEAKES: I thought I heard you on the State Department over there. Why didn't you stay there? (Laughter.)
Q: Because I love you Larry, that's why (Laughter.)
MR. SPEAKES: Oh I see. Just don't put it in those terms, Lester. (Laughter.)
Q: Oh, I retract that.
MR. SPEAKES: I hope so.
Q: It's too late.
coriacci1
2013 May 18, 4:14am
February 28, 2013
Reagan aided Guatemalan genocide
Robert Parry, Consortium News. Soon after taking office in 1981, President Ronald Reagan’s national security team agreed to supply military aid to the brutal right-wing regime in Guatemala to pursue the goal of exterminating not only “Marxist guerrillas†but their “civilian support mechanisms,†according to a newly disclosed document from the National Archives.
Over the next several years, the military assistance from the Reagan administration helped the Guatemalan army do just that, engaging in the slaughter of some 100,000 people, including what a truth commission deemed genocide against the Mayan Indians in the northern highlands.
Vernon Walters, a former deputy director of the CIA who served as President Ronald Reagan’s ambassador-at-large in the early 1980s.
Recently discovered documents at the Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California, also reveal that Reagan’s White House was reaching out to Israel in a scheme to circumvent congressional restrictions on military equipment for the Guatemalan military.
In 1983, national security aide Oliver North (who later became a central figure in the Iran-Contra scandal) reported in a memo that Reagan’s Deputy National Security Advisor Robert McFarlane (another key Iran-Contra figure) was approaching Israel over how to deliver 10 UH-1H helicopters to Guatemala to give the army greater mobility in its counterinsurgency war.
According to these documents that I found at the Reagan library – and other records declassified in the late 1990s – it’s also clear that Reagan and his administration were well aware of the butchery underway in Guatemala and elsewhere in Central America.
coriacci1
2013 May 18, 4:19am
BOTTOM LINE
The true costs of Reagan
and extreme capitalism
by Sam Smith
Next year will mark the 25th anniversary of that remarkable moment when this country began to turn its back on values that had sustained it throughout its first two centuries - values that included balancing power and wealth with concern for, cooperation with, and compassion towards others in the community we called America. In their place came a psychotic faith in the ubiquitous virtue of the market, a faith almost creationist in its absence of objective foundation, intellectually barren when not actually dishonest, and as monomaniacal as the creed of the religious fundamentalist. Every other aspect of existence - religion, family, morality, creativity, politics, community, tradition, ethnicity - was declared merely a byproduct of the marketplace.
True, America had always been a highly commercial culture. And it had gone through periods - such as that of the 19th robber barons or the 1920s - when its better nature was submerged or perverted by a corrupt culture of greed, but in these prior instances it had been generally clear who the true beneficiaries were and there had been little effort, even by these lucky few, to pretend, for example, that the luck of the Goulds, Carnegies or Rockefellers were but a tax cut away from the rest the country.
With Reagan, however, that all changed. For the first time in our history, the self-serving delusions of the privileged few became the standard for the whole nation, propagated in politics, on campuses and in the media. Even liberals would begin to adopt the language of extreme capitalism. Few asked for the evidence to support its thesis or examine critically its deceptive logic.
To give some sense of the cultural eruption that had occurred, consider some remarks from the 1960s. The first were delivered in 1964 by Lyndon Johnson:
Dan8267
2013 May 18, 4:27am
as long as you dont mention all the social programs which failed it
Name specific social program failures and their costs. Let's see if it adds up to the cost of the Vietnam War.
How much did the Vietnam War cost? In direct military spending, alone, Vietnam cost the U.S. $784 billion in fiscal year 2011 dollars. That does not include the cost of human life, the lost labor during and after the war (due to death), or the vast majority of the health care costs for veterans, which will peak around 2020-2025.
We're still paying for the Vietnam War every time we treat a Vietnam vet, and it's going to get a lot more expensive over the next decade. ...unless, of course, you cut all veteran social programs. Do you want to do that?
Dan8267
2013 May 18, 4:36am
Since when was Elizabeth Warren any expert at anything.. read here bio!
a one sided social activist.. thats it! what great company or industry did she create..
shit.. she is another idiot found in the teachers lounge from Obama University.
Warren was a Harvard Law School professor specializing in bankruptcy law after being a practicing lawyer for years. That means her credentials are way the fuck better than yours.
Nor have you done anything to discredit her work. I guess trying to do that would take too much reading.
Dan8267
2013 May 18, 4:41am
Ever work for a people like Donald Regan ? I did..
Donald Regan would sell your ass into slavery to profit for himself if he could get away with it. I guarantee you that he never gave a rat's ass if you lived or die.
coriacci1
2013 May 18, 4:45am
SUN NOV 23, 2008 AT 08:44 AM PST
The Last Great President: John Kennedy and why.
byFreeSocietyFollow
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President John Kennedy was the last truly courageous and great U.S. President that this Nation had.
Kennedy a serious government reformist, with a deep understanding of American Revolutionary History.
Kennedy fought the corrupt Federal Reserve profiteers, and their monopolistic control over our Nation's money supply, in the tradition of our Founding Fathers, who had revolted against the similar Bank of England private Central Bank scheme, and he, like President Lincoln, printed debt-free, interest-free, "United States Notes" in 1963 (circumventing the debt generating "Federal Reserve Notes" system), which is the way that our Country was intended to work -- instead of the debt generating, Federal Reserve system that steals from taxpayers to enrich the global Banking elites ( the Rothchilds, J.P. Morgan, the Rockefellers, Chase, etc.)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/23/665326/-The-Last-Great-President-John-Kennedy-and-why#
JodyChunder
2013 May 18, 9:05am
How much did the Vietnam War cost?
Yeah, but...we did get several good war flicks out of it...
Ever work for a people like Donald Regan ? I did..
Donald Regan would sell your ass into slavery to profit for himself if he could get away with it. I guarantee you that he never gave a rat's ass if you lived or die.
No ... i dont expect you to understand leadership.
Warren was a Harvard Law School professor specializing in bankruptcy law after being a practicing lawyer for years. That means her credentials are way the fuck better than yours.
thats it.. a bankruptcy lawyer! fuck.. my pinky has more experience than her.
Reagan wasn't crazy enough to get the Republican nomination in today's political climate
As i have asked ... where was your guy at ? show everyone you have a better candidate.
New Renter
2013 May 18, 1:39pm
Yeah, but...we did get several good war flicks out of it...
We got way more mileage in that regard out of WWII. Hell there are STILL mega million dollar films begin made on that war.
New Renter
2013 May 18, 1:39pm
Warren was a Harvard Law School professor specializing in bankruptcy law after being a practicing lawyer for years. That means her credentials are way the fuck better than yours.
thats it.. a bankruptcy lawyer! fuck.. my pinky has more experience than her.
Somehow I doubt that very much.
We got way more mileage in that regard out of WWII. Hell there are STILL mega million dollar films begin made on that war.
Neighboring nations became far more stronger and democratic after Saigon fell.
The Communist regime in Vietnam became isolated and the faith in Socialism crumbled even among their own citizens as many left for over decade. More over Vietnamese saw their own nation as being far more poor and corrupt with no opportunity compared to capitalist South Korea, Singapore, or Thailand which saw a huge boom as an industrial power.
Yes, many Vietnamese see South Korea what they too could have been. Ask anyone of them who migrated here. Left wing Hollywood keeps spinning and milking the war.. as they see it ... the reality today is much different.
Somehow I doubt that very much.
I seen her talk many times.. Christ! the woman can nag you to death...
While my pinky has lots of experience.. it doesnt have a NAG factor ... LOL!
And thats what she does.. a NAG not a doer.. let her run an real business in a
competitive industry..
Yea.. she is also an advocate of free loaders...
"She helped to draft the commission's report and worked for several years to oppose legislation intended to severely restrict the right of consumers to file for bankruptcy. Warren and others opposing the legislation were not successful; in 2005 Congress passed the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005."
New Renter
2013 May 18, 5:17pm
We got way more mileage in that regard out of WWII. Hell there are STILL mega million dollar films begin made on that war.
Neighboring nations became far more stronger and democratic after Saigon fell.
The Communist regime in Vietnam became isolated and the faith in Socialism crumbled even among their own citizens as many left for over decade. More over Vietnamese saw their own nation as being far more poor and corrupt with no opportunity compared to capitalist South Korea, Singapore, or Thailand which saw a huge boom as an industrial power.
Yes, many Vietnamese see South Korea what they too could have been. Ask anyone of them who migrated here. Left wing Hollywood keeps spinning and milking the war.. as they see it ... the reality today is much different.
Yes, Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge dream team were a beacon on the hill for democracy in southeast Asia.
Yes, Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge dream team were a beacon on the hill for democracy in southeast Asia.
You live in SJ.. so walk down to little Saigon and ask someone..
New Renter
2013 May 19, 1:57pm
Yes, Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge dream team were a beacon on the hill for democracy in southeast Asia.
You live in SJ.. so walk down to little Saigon and ask someone..
Ask what? If Khmer Rouge was a beacon on the hill for democracy?
The Khmer Rouge period (1975–1979) refers to the rule of Pol Pot, Nuon Chea, Ieng Sary, Son Sen, Khieu Samphan and the Khmer Rouge Communist party over Cambodia, which the Khmer Rouge renamed as Democratic Kampuchea.
The four-year period cost approximately 2 million lives through the combined result of political executions, starvation, and forced labor.[1][2] Due to the large numbers, the deaths during the rule of the Khmer Rouge are often considered a genocide, and commonly known as the Cambodian Holocaust or Cambodian Genocide. The Khmer Rouge took power at the end of the Cambodian Civil War and were toppled with the invasion of Cambodia by neighbour and former ally Vietnam in the Cambodian–Vietnamese War, which left Cambodia under Vietnamese occupation for over a decade.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge_rule_of_Cambodia
With a name like "Democratic Kampuchea" it must have indeed been a beacon on the hill for democracy in southeast asia.
Ask what? If Khmer Rouge was a beacon on the hill for democracy?
The Khmer Rouge period (1975–1979) refers to the rule of Pol Pot, Nuon Chea, Ieng Sary, Son Sen, Khieu Samphan and the Khmer Rouge Communist party over Cambodia, which the Khmer Rouge renamed as Democratic Kampuchea.
Cambodia is another failed communist nation.. I never mentioned Cambodia.. as I stated, Thailand, Singapore, and South Korea did become successful. The communist nations become a killing field.
New Renter
2013 May 21, 2:20am
Ask what? If Khmer Rouge was a beacon on the hill for democracy?
The Khmer Rouge period (1975–1979) refers to the rule of Pol Pot, Nuon Chea, Ieng Sary, Son Sen, Khieu Samphan and the Khmer Rouge Communist party over Cambodia, which the Khmer Rouge renamed as Democratic Kampuchea.
Cambodia is another failed communist nation.. I never mentioned Cambodia.. as I stated, Thailand, Singapore, and South Korea did become successful. The communist nations become a killing field.
Understood. I was merely pointing out the neighboring countries which share a border with Vietnam - Cambodia, Laos and China did not "became far more stronger and democratic after Saigon fell".
Reagan was a great president. He knew how stupid majority of the middle class people were to believe in trickle down economy. So we should have a flourishing middle class after more than 20 years.
Dan8267
2013 May 21, 2:48am
Ever work for a people like Donald Regan ? I did..
Donald Regan would sell your ass into slavery to profit for himself if he could get away with it. I guarantee you that he never gave a rat's ass if you lived or die.
No ... i dont expect you to understand leadership.
The opinion of someone who is pro-torture and for the killing of innocent children in Afghanistan means absolutely nothing to me or to anyone with intelligence or a moral backbone.
FortWayne
2013 May 21, 10:00am
Wasn't me. Patrick emails dislikes, so check your email.
There is a line a conservative man will not cross. That line starts at Frank Sinatra.
LOL - I had been wondering who Disliked all the comments about Frank Sinatra, and why. Fair enough. That famous 1938 mugshot is a personal favorite, but probably not how he wanted to be remembered. RIP, Old Blue Eyes; today's youngins hardly knew ye.
The opinion of someone who is pro-torture and for the killing of innocent children in Afghanistan means absolutely nothing to me or to anyone with intelligence or a moral backbone.
LOL! sounds like a pro Al-Qaeda statement to me. Of course we killed lots of innocent civilians as we bombed Germany and Japan. And so did they.. You rather see dead Americans first ?
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He kept us out of made up wars.
According to the Democrat logic, that they use for talking points, when asked to name one positive thing Obama has done.
It's nice to see them finally giving the gipper some credit where credit is due. At least Ronnie, didn't blame Carter for everything.
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