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edvard2 says

The GOP needs to stop being the mouthpiece of corporations and lobbys.

American companies who employ American workers.. you rather Congress was the mouthpiece of Sony, BMW, Hunwei, and Fiat ?

Yes, if I was the President or Senator.. i too would listen to what American run companies have to say.

You think Sony Hunwei or Fiat have on top of their agenda to hire and employ Americans or their own ?

edvard2 says

The US Military is still around 13 times larger than the next largest global military. Likewise the US Navy is also many magnitudes larger than the next largest navy. We certainly seem to have no issue manufacturing arms and the level of technological sophistication involved makes it clear that our know-how is still top-notch.

All of that has changed as Chinese military hackers, as reported this week, have plans to all of our future weapons platforms.

Entitlemented says

You can read up on Henry Ford, Howard Hughes, Bill Shockley.

Yes many of the things we drive, fly in, write on, compute on, talk on, watch tv, on were invented by US innovators.

Any guess as to the work ethic and political beliefs of American Innovators in the 1930s - 1980s?

Crazy ass Blood and Guts, work till you drop, Right wingers !!

I should know.. I worked for one and knew about a few others who came from Bill Shockley.

Today, you look back and see you made a difference because of them. Wow!

edvard2 says

New Deal legislation also brought about various safeguards we now take for granted such as the FDIC whereas before there were no protections if a bank defaulted.

limited protection with limited funding without any order of payouts... where is the protection for balances above the limit.. how much does GE need each day to pay its payroll, vendors and other payments ? How about the small business who employ's say 100 employees needs to meet its weekly payroll..

doesnt go very far !

marcus says

So I guess t.wrong is saying that Bob Dole doesn't know what he's talking about when he says that he doubts that he, Reagan or Nixon could be elected in todays GOP.

thomaswong.1986 says

GOP as moderates

They weren't moderate at the time. It's all relative. The point is that the right has moved to the right. Since you only think about it as your team against the other team, you wouldn't know the difference.

Translation :

Its all a bunch of Bull Shit from the Left about some stupid shit...

What you really dont want to talk about is

What happened to the 10 MILLION 2008 Obama Voters who didnt Vote for Obama in 2012

WHAT HAPPENED...

where did they go ?? ... its not the GOP who have an identity crisis.. its actually the LIBERAL where 10 MILLION have left the Party ...

thomaswong.1986 says

Its all a bunch of Bull Shit from the Left about some stupid shit...

Translation: Me no want to understand what you say. Me Republican, you stupid pooh poo head democrat.

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(note: that's an example of proper use of "translation" in a response)

"SDLR" is banned by the "New Republican Party"

SDLR = "self deportation, legitimate rape"

Maybe now they can get votes and win?

Losing another round of elections will force change. Until then expect the GOP to consider last round an aberration that can be overcome by money and clever tactics.

thomaswong.1986 says

American companies who employ American workers.. you rather Congress was the mouthpiece of Sony, BMW, Hunwei, and Fiat ?

First of all, it'd be a lot easier if you were to reply to one of my posts with a single response. Not five. But in regards to the GOP being the mouthpiece of corporate interests, I have no problem with the idea. What I DO have a problem with is the sneaky, shady, and misleading manner in which they're doing it.

Look up any number of the supposed "Grass roots" political movements across the country, particularly right-leaning ones. A great majority of those were intentionally started by various industry groups and billionaire investors who cleverly simply shoved them all under generic, overly-patriotic sounding organizations whom in turn are then the underwriters of these co-called movements, where well-intentioned citizens simply become the unknowing pawns of corporate interests who get them to think that polluting the air, ground, and regulations are all some sort of "hippie conspiracy and that it has to be stopped to.... Protect... Their FREEDOMS!!!" Its called astroturfing and while the Dems are certainly not innocent in this regard, the GOP has taken this to whole new level.

thomaswong.1986 says

Crazy ass Blood and Guts, work till you drop, Right wingers !!

Many of those people back then had the fore site to enact working conditions that were ahead of their time. Henry Ford paid his workers $5 a day in an era where a good income was $1 a day. Its called business smarts.

thomaswong.1986 says

limited protection with limited funding without any order of payouts... where is the protection for balances above the limit.. how much does GE need each day to pay its payroll, vendors and other payments ? How about the small business who employ's say 100 employees needs to meet its weekly payroll..

I'm not sure what your comments had to do with the new deal. Not much from what I can tell. But let me give you a short history lesson. The New Deal was basically legislation meant to be an emergency fix to the economy, which as we know was in a deep depression. The situation then was many times more dire than the recession we just had. Remember that back then if you were out of work that was that. You had zero income. People were literally starving or freezing in the winter. Homelessness was a major issue. The only charity of the day came from various volunteer and religious organizations, whom provided the now infamous soup kitchens so visually attached to that era.

Some of the earliest pieces of legislation was to simply get people back to work, and off the streets. For example I had relatives who were in the CCC, which went around and built bridges, state parks, cut trails, and paved roads. They got a small salary, a place to sleep and 3 hot meals. That doesn't sound like much but the goal was to get these people off the street. It also meant we got useful national infrastructure as a result.

Secondly, a number of key reforms were enacted that again- many people now totally take for granted. Social Security, fiscal policy, financial reform, the creation of the FDIC, and so on were some of the many things that came to pass during this period.

Many people claim that the New Deal did little to accomplish its goals. Yet by 1937 the US economy was mostly back on a stable footing but still with a heightened level of unemployment. Note that this was a full 4 years before WWII, at which point unemployment issues resolved. The thing is that the New Deal did in fact accomplish its goals: To stabilize the economy and to also put safe guards into place that would prevent future depressions- which we have not had since then.

So I find it amusing that there are some people who would like us to re-write history and to pretend that the New Deal was nothing more than a liberal ploy. It in fact was simply actions taken by a President who had the balls to get shit done and do so in a time when these actions were most needed, not because he was a liberal or conservative, but because he had a job to do, he did it, and as a result many consider the man to be perhaps the best President in US history. My right-leaning Grandmother and most of her generation would also agree.

Bob Dole says Bob Dole doesn't like what the republican party is doing. Bob Dole!