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New Renter
2013 Jun 6, 12:40pm
Do you have any evidence a prospective employer's HR even has access to this information?
Not really public record, but lexus/nexis knows as does anyone in a credit agency.
A LexisNexis report does indeed contain insurance claim information but only for home and auto claims:
https://personalreports.lexisnexis.com/
No mention of unemployment insurance at all.
Unemployment claims also are NOT reported to credit agencies:
I do not know this for a fact but it was my impression unemployment claims are kept confidential for precisely the reasons you outline. There is also the logic former employers have a stronger motivation NOT to disclose this information since if the person does not get a job, their claim will continue to drain the pot AND it can come back to bite them as a lawsuit.
Now if you know something I don't please share, if not please say so and we can move forward.
I do not know this for a fact but it was my impression unemployment claims are kept confidential for precisely the reasons you outline. There is also the logic former employers have a stronger motivation NOT to disclose this information since if the person does not get a job, their claim will continue to drain the pot AND it can come back to bite them as a lawsuit.
1. The company which formerly employed you is contacted to validate the reason you gave for separation which determines eligibility. They could pass that information on to a future employer.
2. Financial services companies often ask applicants for their tax returns and those should include 1099G forms for unemployment insurance payments.
New Renter
2013 Jun 7, 12:59am
I do not know this for a fact but it was my impression unemployment claims are kept confidential for precisely the reasons you outline. There is also the logic former employers have a stronger motivation NOT to disclose this information since if the person does not get a job, their claim will continue to drain the pot AND it can come back to bite them as a lawsuit.
1. The company which formerly employed you is contacted to validate the reason you gave for separation which determines eligibility. They could pass that information on to a future employer.
2. Financial services companies often ask applicants for their tax returns and those should include 1099G forms for unemployment insurance payments.
Again unless one's former employer has a serious beef with the applicant in question it's to their advantage NOT to disclose UE info.
1) If the applicant gets the job the HE claim stops
2) The former employer risks a lawsuit, a bad reputation, or or worse, a workplace tragedy if it became known disclosing a UE claim sabotaged the application.
There is a reason most companies will only disclose the required minimum information.
Not being in the financial services I've never been asked to submit tax forms. IMO if the only reason one is passed over for a job is that they legally collected a claim for which they were entitled (yes, I said the E word) that applicant is better off NOT working for those jerks. I'd also love to have an expert weigh in on the legality of this issue.
Are you sure you haven't been mistaking unemployment insurance claims with disability claims? The latter seems more logical to be a red flag for potential employers
Goran_K
2013 Jun 13, 3:41am
Hmm. I'd love to post it, but you're right, I don't want to attach his resume to a homeless thread about his life...
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Friend called me over the weekend. Said he got kicked out of his apartment in Orange County. He was in a Panda Express enjoying a meal. I drove over to chat with him, and saw he had one bag, and a backpack, all of his belongings he could carry on him. Basically his clothes, laptop, cell phone, and toiletries.
We talked a bit, I knew he had been unemployed for a while, and had been living off savings. He sold his car, and got a bike. Been looking for work in the finance industry for a long time, but never gets a response to his resume submissions. I told the guy he should look for a "normal" job, like at Costco, or Starbucks just to pay the bills. He sort of balked at me, told me it would ruin his resume, and that he was close to getting a job in his industry.
The thing is, this guy wasn't exactly my BEST friend, more like a good former co-worker that I occasionally kept in contact with through e-mail or a phone call. He has family but they're all over the U.S, not in SoCal. I still felt for him though, which is why I came out to see what I could do to help.
Anyway, the weird part happens when he says "Can I hold up at your place for a few days? Just until I can find an extended stay motel to live at." Mind you, every room in my house is occupied at the moment as either a bedroom, or office. Plus my wife told me before I left to see him, absolutely I cannot bring him home.
I offered to give him the money for a week stay at any extended stay motel he could find. He looked at me sort of surprised like he didn't expect my response, but said, "Yeah that works out great. Thanks for the help. I promise to pay you back when I get my first check at the new job."
So we find one in Costa Mesa on my phone using Google. We load his stuff into my car, we drive over to Costa Mesa, and I tell the guy at the front desk I'm buying a week stay. He ask me for a credit card, just in case for any damages after check out, but I tell the guy I'm doing this as a favor for my friend who really is hard up and homeless right now and I'd like to pay cash. He nods his head and says he'll do it without the credit card. Then he says, "I know what you're doing man, I'm going to give you a 10% discount off the bill, it's an employee thing, but I want to help out." I was pleasantly surprised.
We get him checked in, the room has a kitchen, bath, nice queen size bed.
So before I leave, I ask my friend if he would consider staying at the OC Rescue Mission. He says, "I don't think I could go to a place like that, it would be like I'm giving up." I accepted his opinion and went on my way.
As I was driving home, I wondered if I could have done more. After a week, what's going to happen to the guy? He's an educated guy, has some good professional experience, something will come through. That's at least how I imagined it happening in my mind.