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HydroCabron says

Adam Smith said there are no good trade restrictions, and that all borders should be open to trade.

He was opposed to the East India Company, Gatherings of Masters (aka Chamber of Commerce, various Industry Groups, Lobbying in General), and supported the free trade in Commodities, but *not* in Manufactures. He never used the term laissez-faire even though he was certainly aware of the term, but in fact wrote against total deregulation.

Neither Smith nor Ricardo ever dreamed that British Factories would be outsourced, and so never commented upon it. I believe they would have thought it sheer folly. They were well aware of where the added value was. Their only use of trade was to compare the trade of agricultural goods, which are subject to the climate, soil, and other fixed qualities of the nations.

Read Smith, don't get it second hand from Econalchemist Neoclassical Astrologist Skull-measurers (Skull Measuring and Astrology also use math)

tatupu70 says

If anyone from either party really wants to do something about illegal immigration, they would start enforcing laws against companies that hire illegals. If a CEO goes to jail, then see how things change...

But they won't, we all know they won't. What they really want is to bring in millions of cheap labor here, than pretend they care about the poor and give them all legal status. It's a win win for big business and politicians. Politicans get a few million voters who are desperate for jobs, and businesses can start firing Americans and replace them with cheaper labor.

It's disgusting, and it's how it goes.

tatupu70 says

If a CEO goes to jail, then see how things change...

This, of course, is obvious. The crime isn't wanting to work here, the crime is not hiring a citizen to do the work.

“It means cracking down more forcefully on businesses that knowingly hire undocumented workers…most businesses want to do the right thing… So we need to implement a national system that allows businesses to quickly and accurately verify someone’s employment status. And if they still knowingly hire undocumented workers, then we need to ramp up the penalties.”

President Barack Obama, January 29, 2013

FortWayne says

This is really an odd thing about liberals. They understand that outsourcing jobs such as engineering and research hurts American jobs. But somehow they can't comprehend that outsourcing construction hurts construction jobs.

Come on people, bricklayers and framers aren't supposed to be 100% taken over by illegals for bigger profit margins. Us lower class Americans need jobs too.

Bzzt wrong. I understand the consequences of it.

I report the facts on it, and the CHOICE that is consciously made by others. You all live and work in buildings made by illegals, and eat a lot of food that is cheaper because they work in agriculture.

I despise the hypocritical LANGUAGE decrying the illegal immigrants however. You don't want them here, don't employ them, and boycott businesses who use them, or even better jail those who hire them. It would be far cheaper to send policemen to arrest ONE CEO and HR staffer, than to send trucks and busses to deport employees repeatedly.

This bullshit with walls and deportation doesn't work, never has.

Vicente says

You all live and work in buildings made by illegals, and eat a lot of food that is cheaper because they work in agriculture.

I would buy illegal alien free food if given the option. My house was built by Americans.

Vicente says

I despise the hypocritical LANGUAGE decrying the illegal immigrants however. You don't want them here, don't employ them, and boycott businesses who use them, or even better jail those who hire them.

That's a bullshit argument Vicente, I'm not decrying illegals. I decry businesses constantly getting a flow of cheap labor to replace American labor via government action. I can't boycott every business out there, it's not realistic.

And don't give me this silly stuff about liberals loving illegals, I've seen how teachers union goes up in arms every time they try to replace them with "cheaper" labor. You only like illegals when they take someone else's job, you people can't stand it when it's your job that gets replaced.

zzyzzx says

Vicente says

You all live and work in buildings made by illegals, and eat a lot of food that is cheaper because they work in agriculture.

I would buy illegal alien free food if given the option. My house was built by Americans.

Mine was too, and most of the construction materials in it was made in America too.