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"Telepathy" experiment sends first mental message


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2014 Sep 4, 10:32am   21,704 views  107 comments

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http://news.yahoo.com/telepathy-experiment-sends-1st-mental-message-222701481.html

Washington (AFP) - For the first time, scientists have been able to send a simple mental message from one person to another without any contact between the two, thousands of miles apart in India and France.

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49   Rin   2014 Sep 5, 2:00pm  

Howdy There says

'Still, too much noise and he stops the trade or *ok*, it's clear, let's take this one.'

I have a coin too. Shall I flip it?

If it gets you from 60% to 70% of accurate results, then sure, why not?

I suspect that like the rest of us, you'll be converging upon 50% in no time.

50   Howdy There   2014 Sep 5, 2:07pm  

If someone has a track record over 50% predicting the future, then odds are they have over 50% of being wrong going forward. I anticipate a 50% chance of being proven wrong on this one, with a +or- of 10%.

51   Rin   2014 Sep 5, 2:10pm  

Howdy There says

If someone has a track record over 50% predicting the future, then odds are they have over 50% of being wrong going forward. I anticipate a 50% chance of being proven wrong on this one, with a +or- of 10%.

Considering that he's been paid 8 figures for two years, tells me that his hit ratio is pretty solid.

52   Howdy There   2014 Sep 5, 2:20pm  

Rin says

Considering that he's been paid 8 figures for two years, tells me that his hit ratio is pretty solid.

All past tense stuff. Going forward, he won't give a shit because he's made over 20 mil. His ratio is destined to crash due to righteous apathy.

53   Rin   2014 Sep 5, 2:32pm  

Howdy There says

Rin says

Considering that he's been paid 8 figures for two years, tells me that his hit ratio is pretty solid.

All past tense stuff. Going forward, he won't give a shit because he's made over 20 mil. His ratio is destined to crash due to righteous apathy.

Well ... I think he wants to get out with $100M+ and the current partners in this firm will make sure that that happens, with equity sharing. I'll be out by then.

54   The Original Bankster   2014 Sep 6, 4:22am  

its like this, ever meet those people who are always reading health literature? every month they have some food item that they must consume mass quantities of. Like, Coconut Oil, they must consume 4 pounds of coconut oil a day or they will die. But they didnt require it before, suddenly- they do.

so what does this say? people believe science even though it is continually revising itself, often completely REVERSING it's claims, and this happens so quickly these days science is becoming less believable on the whole. For instance eating a low fat diet was thought to be great for your heart, later we found out it's not good for your health at all.

so back to things like telepathy, everyone does it all the time, some people just have a cleaner system and can pick it up easier. There's more to it, much I don't even know at all, but I know it's real, and people have known it's real for a long time. Only recently did we decide this was nonsense simply because our latest devices can't measure it successfully. So if you want to eat three gallons of coconut oil because these people say so, go for it.

55   Ceffer   2014 Sep 6, 4:24am  

I am glad there is no telepathy. Otherwise, I would be beaten and imprisoned on a daily basis.

56   The Original Bankster   2014 Sep 6, 4:26am  

New Renter says

Don't forget to pack your "telepathy" kit:

ive used psychedelics before but dont do any drugs at all anymore.

psychedelics are interesting because they activate parts of your mind that normally arent activated. if you do them too much it can be very damaging, in the same way that alcohol effects your liver, psychedelics will have similar effects except much worse.

of course they are popular in a place like San Francisco where the people are so screwed up they can't reach those parts of their mind naturally.

57   Peter P   2014 Sep 6, 4:26am  

Ceffer says

I am glad there is no telepathy. Otherwise, I would be beaten and imprisoned on a daily basis.

Did you just confess to the thought police?

58   The Original Bankster   2014 Sep 6, 4:27am  

Ceffer says

I am glad there is no telepathy. Otherwise, I would be beaten and imprisoned on a daily basis.

ppl can pick up your crazy negative thoughts, they just pretend they didn't, or subconsciously block it. We get this all the time, some people just creep you out- this is why.

59   Peter P   2014 Sep 6, 4:29am  

The Original Bankster says

Ceffer says

I am glad there is no telepathy. Otherwise, I would be beaten and imprisoned on a daily basis.

ppl can pick up your crazy negative thoughts, they just pretend they didn't, or subconsciously block it. We get this all the time, some people just creep you out- this is why.

Well said. Some call it aura or chakra but it is all intuitive.

60   The Original Bankster   2014 Sep 6, 4:31am  

Peter P says

Well said. Some call it aura or chakra but it is all intuitive.

chakras are a real thing, but ppl contort this knowledge quite a bit. To get to the level where this knowledge is useful you need to do a lot of work.

61   Peter P   2014 Sep 6, 4:43am  

The Original Bankster says

Peter P says

Well said. Some call it aura or chakra but it is all intuitive.

chakras are a real thing, but ppl contort this knowledge quite a bit. To get to the level where this knowledge is useful you need to do a lot of work.

Of course it takes work, although one can see quick results just from listening to his inner voice. Emotions like greed and fear are real enemies to this process.

62   The Original Bankster   2014 Sep 6, 4:54am  

Peter P says

Emotions like greed and fear are real enemies to this process.

this is why the yogis always say that its dangerous to do certain things at certain stages. the first thing required is removing those sorts of emotions. there's enormous energy in every person, so you have to make sure the machine is in working order before you turn on the power. i believe mostly in what yogis teach, reincarnation, etc.

most ppl are not at the stage where this information is useful so they will ignore it or block it, doesn't matter to me.

63   The Original Bankster   2014 Sep 6, 4:56am  

its important not to get carried away with career and money otherwise you ignore the important things.

64   Peter P   2014 Sep 6, 5:14am  

The Original Bankster says

its important not to get carried away with career and money otherwise you ignore the important things.

Very true. In fact, both career and money may even suffer.

65   New Renter   2014 Sep 6, 6:20am  

The Original Bankster says

Peter P says

Well said. Some call it aura or chakra but it is all intuitive.

chakras are a real thing, but ppl contort this knowledge quite a bit. To get to the level where this knowledge is useful you need to do a lot of work.

Well if that's what you two believe perhaps you will be interested in this AMAZING NEW PRODUCT that HEALTH CARE AND WATER COMPANIES DON"T WANT YOU TO KNOW ABOUT!

http://www.flaska.eu/water-structuring-with-flaska

On its way from the spring to the tap, water travels through long straight pipes made from different materials — lead, asbestos, plastic, etc. This is not water’s natural environment, as water normally flows across different types of rock and through different layers of soil. Substances with which water comes into contact have a vibrational effect on the water, and this vibrational effect can be imprinted onto it for a certain period of time — coherent domains of water molecules resonate with this vibration for a longer period of time[1]. The same thing happens in bottles or water dispensers in which water is stationary for a longer period of time.

With the Flaska bottle, we bring the vibrational structure of water closer to the structure of spring water, i.e. water in its natural environment - this is called water structuring. Using TPS (technology of programming silicon), a vibrational programme consisting of various kinds of information from nature is imprinted into the glass.

And if you believe this I have a bridge to sell you too!

66   The Original Bankster   2014 Sep 6, 7:24am  

what does that have to do with chakras?

67   curious2   2014 Sep 6, 8:01am  

The Original Bankster says

i believe mostly in what yogis teach, reincarnation, etc.

TOB's website link communicates what he is destined to be reincarnated as. It's a telepathic warning from his future self, but he Ignores the message.

68   The Original Bankster   2014 Sep 6, 8:07am  

curious2 says

The Original Bankster says

i believe mostly in what yogis teach, reincarnation, etc.

TOB's website link communicates what he is destined to be reincarnated as. It's a telepathic warning from his future self, but he Ignores the message.

yes Im a spiritual person, the liberal philosophy doesnt allow it.

69   lostand confused   2014 Sep 6, 8:20am  

The Original Bankster says

its important not to get carried away with career and money otherwise you ignore the important things.

Or get to a stage where career and money do not affect you anymore. I think initially it is good to stay away for periods to build your inner strength. but attaining the skill of being in the center of all the action and still not being affected/carried away by any of it-is a very nice skill to have. When strength and sense of well being comes from that core inside of you, rather than beliefs or passing fancies-it is indeed a joyous/but very still place to be .

70   New Renter   2014 Sep 6, 9:27am  

The Original Bankster says

what does that have to do with chakras?

Both are silly nonsense.

71   Rin   2014 Sep 6, 9:43am  

New Renter says

The Original Bankster says

what does that have to do with chakras?

Both are silly nonsense.

In Asian martial arts, even soft forms like Tai Chi, the idea is to build a strong concentration with the Dantien a.k.a 2nd chakra, to enhance one's strength & fluidity w/o necessarily only depending upon strength exercises like squats and pushups. So far, this has resulted in health benefits in Tai Chi & Qigong practitioners throughout China for a number of decades. So if it's a placebo effect, as many doctors believe it is, well, it's a rather reliable one.

72   Vicente   2014 Sep 6, 10:18am  

Ceffer says

I am glad there is no telepathy. Otherwise, I would be beaten and imprisoned on a daily basis.

Imagine the havoc on the legal profession!

73   Peter P   2014 Sep 6, 10:22am  

Rin says

So if it's a placebo effect, as many doctors believe it is, well, it's a rather reliable one.

All of my MD friends dismiss the validity of alternative medicine. I do not blame them.

It is all too human to glorify a specialized education, especially one that costed so much to acquire. After all, the human existence is heavily influenced, if not driven, by cognitive biases.

74   New Renter   2014 Sep 6, 10:24am  

Rin says

New Renter says

The Original Bankster says

what does that have to do with chakras?

Both are silly nonsense.

In Asian martial arts, even soft forms like Tai Chi, the idea is to build a strong concentration with the Dantien a.k.a 2nd chakra, to enhance one's strength & fluidity w/o necessarily only depending upon strength exercises like squats and pushups. So far, this has resulted in health benefits in Tai Chi & Qigong practitioners throughout China for a number of decades. So if it's a placebo effect, as many doctors believe it is, well, it's a rather reliable one.

Right up there with tiger dong Viagra;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_penis_soup

Does it work? As a placebo maybe for some. Bad for tigers though.

75   Rin   2014 Sep 6, 10:26am  

Peter P says

All of my MD friends dismiss the validity of alternative medicine. I do not blame them.

Well, in Boston, Herb Benson is actually trying to change that ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Benson

76   Rin   2014 Sep 6, 10:29am  

New Renter says

Right up there with tiger dong Viagra;

The former is a series of physical exercises, the latter are a bunch of contaminated weeds or wasted meat products, where the medicinal components haven't been isolated & compartmentalized, much like the active ingredient of garlic, allicin, which is an effective antibiotic.

77   Rin   2014 Sep 6, 10:33am  

Rin says

active ingredient of garlic, allicin, which is an effective antibiotic.

So while taking activated-stabilized Allicin has been effective in controlling MSRA infections in the UK, eating garlic bulbs will never do the trick.

This is why one needs real STEM folks, studying folk medicine and Qigong practices, not religious types. But unfortunately, if one's not independently wealthy, chances are, one's grant money will be rescinded in time.

78   The Original Bankster   2014 Sep 6, 11:15am  

Vicente says

Imagine the havoc on the legal profession!

actually having a profession that requires lying such as Lawyer basically destroys these faculties completely.

79   Vicente   2014 Sep 6, 12:34pm  

Rin says

This is why one needs real STEM folks, studying folk medicine and Qigong practices, not religious types.

IMO organized religion would be turned inside-out, once parishioners found out what their leaders REALLY thought about them, or about the money-grubbing aspects of what they do.

80   curious2   2014 Sep 6, 12:55pm  

Vicente says

IMO organized religion would be turned inside-out, once parishioners found out what their leaders REALLY thought about them, or about the money-grubbing aspects of what they do.

Your opinion is contrary to observable evidence: religious leaders have been exposed countless times, but parishioners continue to pay.

81   Vicente   2014 Sep 6, 1:09pm  

curious2 says

Your opinion is contrary to observable evidence: religious leaders have been exposed countless times, but parishioners continue to pay.

There's a difference between suspecting your leaders think you are fools and KNOWING as a fact.

Witness for example recent events with NSA. Nearly everyone grew up thinking the alphabet-agenices are probably listening to everything everywhere. But once it was rubbed in all our faces by Edward Snowden it suddenly became a Big F#$king Deal.

82   Peter P   2014 Sep 6, 1:12pm  

curious2 says

religious leaders have been exposed countless times, but parishioners continue to pay.

There is a difference between illusion and delusion.

83   curious2   2014 Sep 6, 1:25pm  

Vicente says

But once it was rubbed in all our faces by Edward Snowden it suddenly became a Big F#$king Deal.

Did it? Can you name anyone who lost a job over it, whom most people have even heard of? Has anything changed?

Peter P says

There is a difference between illusion and delusion.

Yes, but the issue is people's indifference to objective reality. As a member of Romnesia's cult explained, it doesn't matter whether the underwear are really magic, what matters is you agree to believe they are, and thus you become part of a community of faith.

84   New Renter   2014 Sep 6, 1:48pm  

Rin says

New Renter says

Right up there with tiger dong Viagra;

The former is a series of physical exercises, the latter are a bunch of contaminated weeds or wasted meat products, where the medicinal components haven't been isolated & compartmentalized, much like the active ingredient of garlic, allicin, which is an effective antibiotic.

Very true. The benefits of exercise are obvious. The chakra's however are less so.

Now if someone can put up scientifically verifiable evidence of the authenticity of chakras I'm perfectly willing to alter my opinion.

85   Rin   2014 Sep 6, 2:02pm  

New Renter says

Now if someone can put up scientifically verifiable evidence of the authenticity of chakras I'm perfectly willing to alter my opinion.

The only chakra I know off, is the 2nd one, or the Dantien in Chinese internal martial arts.

I've been waiting for Benson's group to conduct the research, since many of them have trained in Tai Chi and Qigong but it appears that like a lot of ppl, who're not independently wealthy, they can't do the real work which is needed here.

So I'm afraid you'll have to wait for me to do that work, and show, whether or not, Tai Chi/Qigong actually improves nervous, lymphatic, and endocrine system functions, via using exercises that stimulate the region around the Dantien.

86   Peter P   2014 Sep 6, 2:03pm  

Science is too slow. Sometimes, speculative knowledge is just as useful.

87   Rin   2014 Sep 6, 2:16pm  

Peter P says

Science is too slow. Sometimes, speculative knowledge is just as useful.

It's not the science, it's that ppl can't work on what they want.

They need to pander to grant committees, with group think like nano-catalysis, which was surface/applied chemistry in the past or green energy, which means generating an inefficient supply of H2.

If I recall my earlier days in Boston, that Benson team had met with tons of Qigong and Tai Chi instructors and practitioners. Many of these ppl have every good health and joint flexibility, into their 60s and 70s. Yet, in place of studying how/why the so-called 2nd chakra based exercises and visualizations have ppl feeling healthier, they fallback onto this alpha brain waves, as the reason why hypertension is lower in ppl who meditate. Ok, well that was so 1980s, that it's not even worth mentioning anymore.

So instead of waiting for scientists to do their jobs, I simply practice these exercises, before/after weight lifting, aerobics, or martial arts, and so far, so good.

88   New Renter   2014 Sep 6, 2:25pm  

Peter P says

Science is too slow. Sometimes, speculative knowledge is just as useful.

Yes, just ask Steve Jobs

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