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Call it Crazy says

HydroCabron says

I really have no idea why anyone would think that NBC, CBS, and ABC, as well as the NYT are liberal. Maybe because

..they spout the narrative that you liberals subscribe to, which is why you don't recognize or see it... Simple!

Hydrocabron's point is they don't spout it when it interfers with the war making and banking propaganda that comes from the Democratic sponsors. Wants me to stop pointing out that democrats and republicans are both corrupt.

The Professor says

HydroCabron says

Please do just one thing for me: can you not retreat into "both parties are just organs of the blah blah blah..." argument for just today? Just for today, please?

YES! Lets suspend reality on Sundays from now on!

Hey, I don't care if he argues a point he believes in - although I'll make fun of that conclusion anyway, because it's horseshit.

But he doesn't even believe both sides are the same, so it would be nice if he dropped the convenient fiction that he does.

HydroCabron says

But he doesn't even believe both sides are the same

Good nanny state example of telling others what to think, or believe.

I am glad I have people like Hydro Cabron to let me know what I believe.

HydroCabron says

Every libertarian I worked with - for some reason, our corporate offices are full of them, each talking about how they're the only libertarian in the village - supported the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. Every. Single. One.

You are not working with Libertarians.

mell says

HydroCabron says

Every libertarian I worked with - for some reason, our corporate offices are full of them, each talking about how they're the only libertarian in the village - supported the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. Every. Single. One.

You are not working with Libertarians.

Like having a dog and punishing it for not meowing like a cat like all the other dogs you might know.

The Professor says

HydroCabron says

But he doesn't even believe both sides are the same, so it would be nice if he dropped the convenient fiction that he does.

The parties are distinctly different, like coke and pepsi; name your poison.

The point I, and I assume most "both parties are the same proclaimers", is that we really have no choice at the voting booth because both parties are beholden to special interests and no matter who we "choose", business will go on as usual.

Tweedle Dee or Tweedle Dum, get it?

You are not allowed to believe that. In fact you don't believe that
Now please be a fox watching rush limbaugh neo con republican so I can use my best criticism on you. :-)

smaulgld says

Like having a dog and punishing it for not meowing like a cat like all the other dogs you might know.

Sactly

Its one thing to create straw men and knock them down
Quite another talent to transform real people into strawmen
I guess if you have only one line of argumentation...

smaulgld says

I guess if you have only one line of argumentation...

Heheheh: "Fed bad. Fed bad. Fed bad..."

HydroCabron says

smaulgld says

I guess if you have only one line of argumentation...

Heheheh: "Fed bad. Fed bad. Fed bad..."

I forgot the misplaced humor line of attack
I dont see any mention of the fed in this thread

HydroCabron says

A low-level employee in Cincinnati legitimately demanded extra documentation from some Tea Party (as well as some liberal) groups, as to why they should be considered tax-exempt public service organizations.

The groups were, after some extra hassle, granted the status. Sounds as if he did his job; at worst, he was overzealous. I think the IRS is not doing enough to audit and double-check: I don't like the IRS, but having a toothless IRS just leads to Greece, where everyone cheats while thinking everyone else but them should pay taxes.

There is even a viable argument that the Tea Party groups should not be considered tax-exempt.

You don't know much. Do you?
Here is a little song for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KohtsEmWY2w

gsr says

HydroCabron says

A low-level employee in Cincinnati legitimately demanded extra documentation from some Tea Party (as well as some liberal) groups, as to why they should be considered tax-exempt public service organizations.

The groups were, after some extra hassle, granted the status. Sounds as if he did his job; at worst, he was overzealous. I think the IRS is not doing enough to audit and double-check: I don't like the IRS, but having a toothless IRS just leads to Greece, where everyone cheats while thinking everyone else but them should pay taxes.

There is even a viable argument that the Tea Party groups should not be considered tax-exempt.

You don't know much. Do you?

Here is a little song for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KohtsEmWY2w

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-12/irs-tried-failed-to-repair-lois-lerner-hard-drive.html

Stop lying to yourself.

gsr says

The groups were, after some extra hassle, granted the status. Sounds as if he did his job; at worst, he was overzealous. I think the IRS is not doing enough to audit and double-check: I don't like the IRS, but having a toothless IRS just leads to Greece, where everyone cheats while thinking everyone else but them should pay taxes.

There is even a viable argument that the Tea Party groups should not be considered tax-exempt.

You don't know much. Do you?

Here is a little song for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KohtsEmWY2w

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-08-12/irs-tried-failed-to-repair-lois-lerner-hard-drive.html

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2014/08/27/by-the-way-lois-lerners-blackberry-was-destroyed-during-irs-investigation-n1883972

gsr says

You don't know much. Do you?

Here is a little song for you.

You sound grumpy.

A tax cut on wealthy earners might cheer you up!

HydroCabron says

You sound grumpy.

A tax cut on wealthy earners might cheer you up!

You can pass on your kool-aid instead.

HydroCabron says

gsr says

You don't know much. Do you?

Here is a little song for you.

You sound grumpy.

A tax cut on wealthy earners might cheer you up!

Tax cuts for everyone!

sbh says

Precisely. What else need they do in order to be re-elected? This ain't about
governing a nation, this is about the identity of a Party. Governance, we don't
need no steenking governance, that's for the black guy to try and for us to
shoot down.

How is the Democrat's brand for "governance" going these days?

- They can't run a website despite spending millions
- They can't run the VA above a 3rd world level
- They politicize institutions like the IRS to target their political enemies
- Can't run cities without going into bankruptcy

When 2016 comes around, I think many Americans will gladly pull the lever for the party that (at least says) it will limit the amount of money and control government can take or inflict on our daily lives.

Seriously, who do you think will be up for MOAR GOVERNMENT after the debacle of the last 6 years?