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2015 Jan 28, 9:20am 22,700 views 82 comments
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Y
2015 Jan 29, 7:21am
That would be an invitation for us to take out their military via cruise missiles.
They would not take that step.
Really piss off the Iranians and they close the straits of hormuz and instantly crash the us economy.
Y
2015 Jan 29, 7:24am
see "fracking"...
the straits would only be shut down as long as it would take us to launch massive cruise missile attack taking out all their ships and land based launchers.
OTOH, a subtle threat to nuke mecca/medina would also stop them in their tracks while having the side benefit of decreasing fanatical islamist terrorism.
( at least the ones that believe )
But hey what's one more time? How are you planning to deal with $30 dollar a gallon gas, huge shortages, and strict rationing when iran shuts down the straits?
no. The civilized world sticking their collective heads in the sand with the threat of the trigger to world war 3 perched on their doorstep.
only this time, any future world war won't be as easy as the last one...
History repeat as neville? The iranians are planning on conquering europe, north africa, and russia?
World war 3? If you are really worried about WWIII then you should be looking to invade India and Pakistan to take away their nuclear toys. Along with North Korea. Real threats with real bombs first. Then worry about Iran maybe being able to make a bomb.
MisdemeanorRebel
2015 Jan 29, 7:27am
Obama decided to "make a stop" in Riyadh the other day on his way back from India, where he watched a military parade of Russian made and designed weapons.
He's probably begging the Sauds to continue the low oil price policy.
There's no way of destroying the whole Iranian military via cruise missiles. Not even all their air, sea, and land based missile systems. This stuff NEVER goes as easy as claimed. When an attack is pending, countries don't leave their systems out in their usual place, out in the open. They bury them, hide them, move them around.
You remember all the problems we had SCUD hunting - in a desert. Iran is very hilly.
"One Bomb, one Target" is a USAF baloney phrase they used back in 1965. It turned out to be more like "100 Bombs, one Target, then we have to come back in a few weeks anyway."
see "fracking"...
the straits would only be shut down as long as it would take us to launch massive cruise missile attack taking out all their ships and land based launchers.
OTOH, a subtle threat to nuke mecca/medina would also stop them in their tracks while having the side benefit of decreasing fanatical islamist terrorism.
( at least the ones that believe )
LOL times 3. You really read way way too much tom clancy. A massive cruise missile attack taking out all their ships and land based launchers? Do you still believe in santa clause and the easter bunny too? Too funny.
The first hint of a nation state threat, even a couple iranian navy guys on a zodiac with an rpg, the maritime insurers will drop coverage for the region instantly. No insurance, no ship movements.
Nuke medina/mecca? Wasn't that sum of all fears? Still laughing. Let me know when you want to talk real world discussion.
Obama decided to "make a stop" in Riyadh the other day on his way back from India, where he watched a military parade of Russian made and designed weapons.
It's good Obama has continued the presidential tradition of sucking saudi dick.
Of course Iran will attack the whole world with nuclear weapons
and Iraq has Weapons of Mass Destruction.
The warmongering TPTB have Americans where they want them,in a state of fear.
I guess TPTB will make more money thru the military industrial complex & confiscation of more oil territory funded by Rep/Con/Tea tax dollars. It cost a lot to run a scam so R/C/Ts need to work three jobs in order to pay more taxes.
Y
2015 Jan 29, 8:30am
Iraq had certified chemical weapons that most likely were transferred to syria prior to the war.
Iran is threatening to attack israel with or without nukes.
Iran funds terrorists, which, by proxy, are attacking the whole world at this point.
btw, did you have a valid point?
Of course Iran will attack the whole world with nuclear weapons
and Iraq has Weapons of Mass Destruction.
MisdemeanorRebel
2015 Jan 29, 8:32am
Iraq had certified chemical weapons that most likely were transferred to syria prior to the war.
Baloney. The Chems in Syria came from Saudi Arabia, which had previously used them in Yemen against the Egyptians.
Iran is threatening to attack israel with or without nukes.
Rubbish.
Iran funds terrorists, which, by proxy, are attacking the whole world at this point.
Not in Europe or the USA. How many Iranians involved with 9/11, Benghazi, Kenyan Embassy, WTC #1, etc. etc.?
How many Anti-US Foreign Fighters in Iraq were Iranian? How many were Saudi or Egyptian?
Y
2015 Jan 29, 8:33am
"Threaten" to nuke medina/mecca.
This would be the first option in my book.
See how that pans out.
We don't have to actually carry through with it.
After all, we have a president that has done a lot of threatening with no actual consequences. So we have experience in that department.
It would be like threatening to go for it on 4th and 1 with a lot of quarterback screaming and head bobbing trying to draw the defense offsides. It's done all the time.
Nuke medina/mecca? Wasn't that sum of all fears? Still laughing. Let me know when you want to talk real world discussion.
Y
2015 Jan 29, 8:35am
Iran funds terrorists.
I did not say they were iranian terrorists.
Iran funds terrorists, which, by proxy, are attacking the whole world at this point.
Not in Europe or the USA. How many Iranians involved with 9/11, Benghazi, Kenyan Embassy, WTC #1, etc. etc.?
How many Anti-US Foreign Fighters in Iraq were Iranian? How many were Saudi or Egyptian?
MisdemeanorRebel
2015 Jan 29, 8:35am
Iran funds terrorists.
I did not say they were iranian terrorists.
Or that they target the west.
Who funds Azov in Ukraine? Who funds Chechen Fundamentalists?
Y
2015 Jan 29, 8:38am
Most of Iraq's chemical WMD's are not accounted for.
Syria, an adjacent state, has/had a shitload.
Do the math.
The front page of today’s New York Times is dominated by a long article on chemical weapons in Iraq. It appears to be the result of a major investigation; bylined by C.J. Chivers, it credits six additional reporters and researchers as well as eight “producers.” The gist of the article is that there were far more chemical weapons in Iraq than were ever publicly reported, and between 2004 and 2011 there were “at least six” instances where American troops were exposed to chemical agents including mustard and sarin. The Times criticizes the military for understating the chemical weapons problem, and in some instances, for the medical treatment received by servicemen.
thunderlips11 says
Iraq had certified chemical weapons that most likely were transferred to syria prior to the war.
Baloney. The Chems in Syria came from Saudi Arabia, which had previously used them in Yemen against the Egyptians.
Y
2015 Jan 29, 8:44am
Why are you throwing softballs??
http://www.timesofisrael.com/times-of-israel-live-updates-january-20-2015/
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Iran-nuclear-weapons-sanctions-uranium/2014/11/17/id/607839/
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iranian-general-threatens-surprise-attack-on-israel/
http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/iran-threatens-to-unleash-hezbollah-on-israel/
Even the libby bible backs me up....
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/21/world/middleeast/iranian-commander-threatens-thunderbolt-against-israel-after-generals-death-in-airstrike.html
Iran is threatening to attack israel with or without nukes.
Rubbish.
HydroCabron
2015 Jan 29, 8:50am
I believe three "l"'s indicate 90% enrichment achieved.
Thanks for supporting me!
Yelllow cake!
The metallic neocon braying of your cadre never leads anywhere good.
Maybe you should wake up? Or at least own that the "record" - such as it is - of foreign-policy analysis from your ilk is right less than twice a day?
Y
2015 Jan 29, 8:50am
Ukraine's interior ministry.
Who funds Azov in Ukraine
I don't know. Why don't we ask the Tsarnaev brothers?
Who funds Chechen Fundamentalists?
Y
2015 Jan 29, 8:59am
Well, I have to agree with you that libby neocons helped to push the bush battalions into the unnecessary Iraq debacle...
That's twice we have come to agreement in the same thread!
The metallic braying of neocon cadre of morons never leads anywhere good.
Maybe you should wake up? Or at least own that the "record" - such as it is - of foreign-policy analysis from your ilk is right less than twice a day?
HydroCabron
2015 Jan 29, 9:01am
libby neocons helped to push the bush battalions into the unnecessary Iraq debacle
Yes: No true Scotsman would have invaded Iraq.
HydroCabron
2015 Jan 29, 9:04am
on edit:
strike "libby neocons"
substitute: "NeoLibbys"
Conservatism cannot fail
Conservatism can only be failed
If a conservative policy fails it, was not really conservative
If a conservative fails, he was not a true conservative
The greater good ...
The greater good ...
Y
2015 Jan 29, 9:09am
I think you are confusing the jist of the thread.
It is not to promote democracy worldwide, nor to reform worldwide markets.
It is to stop the proliferation of nuclear weapons in an area of the world where the majority of the population function with skillsets of 16th century slaves beholden to their warmongering gods.
The metallic neocon braying
Y
2015 Jan 29, 9:12am
Neoliberalism/Neoconservatism has nothing to do with it.
You are making the common error here of associating any kind of military action with "Neo".....
HydroCabron
2015 Jan 29, 9:13am
in an area of the world where the majority of the population function with skillsets of 16th century slaves beholden to their warmongering gods
You need to be more specific: Mississippi, or Tennessee?
Y
2015 Jan 29, 9:13am
"NeoIamRighties"...
There, I am fair and balanced....
substitute: "NeoLibbys"
Conservatism cannot fail
HydroCabron
2015 Jan 29, 9:14am
Neoliberalism/Neoconservatism has nothing to do with it.
Even though you tried to argue that above.
Got it.
Y
2015 Jan 29, 9:18am
which post?
Neoliberalism/Neoconservatism has nothing to do with it.
Even though you tried to argue that above.
Got it.
"Threaten" to nuke medina/mecca.
This would be the first option in my book.
See how that pans out.
That will pan out even better than attacking iran. The suadi's will be so thrilled we threatened to nuke two of their cities that they will send us oil free I'm sure. My stomach is starting to hurt from laughing. You've got to cut this out.
MisdemeanorRebel
2015 Jan 29, 9:52am
Why are you throwing softballs??
4 Neocon Rags and 1 Neolib mouthpiece Court Historian Codex.
Old Gray Baglady piece is about an Israeli Airstrike killing an Iranian General in Syria.
Not convinced.
Y
2015 Jan 29, 10:22am
I could see that happening...they are religious freaks also...
Glad you pointed out that side benefit...
The suadi's will be so thrilled we threatened to nuke two of their cities that they will send us oil free I'm sure.
I could see that happening...they are religious freaks also...
Glad you pointed out that side benefit...
The suadi's will be so thrilled we threatened to nuke two of their cities that they will send us oil free I'm sure.
I'm beginning to suspect that you don't realize mecca and medina are saudi cities. Otherwise this makes less than zero sense.
Y
2015 Jan 29, 11:04am
I realize that.
The importance of Mecca for Muslims is inestimable. All Muslims , wherever they are on Earth, pray 5 times a day in the direction of the Kaaba in Mecca.
1.6 billion+ Muslims all over the world, including saudi arabia, would do whatever it took to protect this revered site. No Kaaba, no place to aim yourself in prayer...
Only Muslims can eradicate the radicals. They are the only ones that can get close and identify the troublemakers. But they have only made barely detectable minimal effort. They are not motivated. Yet the radicals are motivated to control the world and we are paying the price for that.
It's time to motivate them, or be assimilated.
I'm beginning to suspect that you don't realize mecca and medina are saudi cities. Otherwise this makes less than zero sense.
indigenous
2015 Jan 29, 11:08am
The importance of Mecca for Muslims is inestimable.
Imagine what a Tee Shirt concession would bring in.
Y
2015 Jan 29, 11:11am
One could fund monthly wet burka contests...
The importance of Mecca for Muslims is inestimable.
Imagine what a Tee Shirt concession would bring in.
1.6 billion+ Muslims all over the world, including saudi arabia, would do whatever it took to protect this revered site. No Kaaba, no place to aim yourself in prayer...
Only Muslims can eradicate the radicals. They are the only ones that can get close and identify the troublemakers. But they have only made barely detectable minimal effort. They are not motivated. Yet the radicals are motivated to control the world and we are paying the price for that.
It's time to motivate them, or be assimilated.
The neocon brain in action. Hand over the radicals or we'll nuke medina and mecca. That's your plan? Perfect, you can't make this shit up. Do you mind if I share this, it's too precious to not be shared with others. Everyone deserves a good laugh today.
Y
2015 Jan 29, 12:36pm
I'm neither "neo" or "conservative", but you already knew that...
(strike 1)
The neocon brain in action.
But I just did...and you already knew that!
(strike 2)
bob2356 says
Hand over the radicals or we'll nuke medina and mecca. That's your plan? Perfect, you can't make this shit up.
I posted on a public admission free forum. It is already 'shared'...but you already knew that..
(strike 3, have a seat..)
Do you mind if I share this, it's too precious to not be shared with others.
HydroCabron
2015 Jan 29, 12:37pm
I'm neither "neo" or "conservative", but you already knew that...
It's dead certain that you were a strident supporter of the Iraq War in 2003.
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but not for the reasons he gives..
D-dayII: June 30, 2015
It is fitting and proper–indeed essential for our very security–that Speaker John Boehner has extended an invitation to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin “Bibi” Netanyahu to address Congress on Iran and its efforts to develop nuclear weapons and the missiles to deliver them anywhere in the world. The invitation has bipartisan support because many members on both sides of the aisle recognize the fundamental threat to world peace that a nuclear-armed Iran would pose. Like Winston Churchill in the 1930s with Nazi Germany, Netanyahu has been sounding the alarm about Iran’s ominous nuclear and terrorist activities.
The President has made clear his intense dislike of Israel’s prime minister and his refusal to keep quiet about Obama’s desire to conclude a Neville Chamberlain-like deal with Teheran.
The mullahs agreed to sit down with the US and Britain, France, Russia, China and Germany to come up with an agreement ostensibly to get Iran to back off its nuclear ambitions. Iran’s agenda was simple: get the sanctions eased, and then with a loophole-ridden treaty, get them removed altogether.
Appeasers argue that containment will work with a nuclear-armed Iran just as it did with the old Soviet Union during the Cold War and thus there is nothing to really worry about. Israel and other Mideast nations know better.
The Iranian government, despite the immense corruption of many of its leaders, is a revolutionary regime. Its actions over the years demonstrate that the rhetoric of its officials is more than just hot air. Iran is terror central. It bankrolls and provides arms to Hamas, Hezbollah and all sorts of Islamic terrorists organizations.
If the US tacitly concedes its resignation to Iran becoming a nuclear power, then other countries will follow suite in creating their own nukes, including Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Egypt.
With nukes in so many unstable hands, a disaster is almost a certainty. Moreover, the widespread knowledge of how to make the Bomb will certainly fall into terrorist hands, which is why the US must prevent this nuclear proliferation in the first place.
Ominously Iran has apparently developed an intercontinental ballistic missile that can reach not only Israel but also Europe. It won’t be many years before the mullahs can aim nuclear tipped missiles against the US. No surprise, the current negotiations don’t cover Iranian missile development.
Obama has trampled on the Constitution time and again–making laws and changing laws at will–and wants no Congressional involvement precisely because the resultant debate would glaringly show what a dangerously miserable deal he had cut. The ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Robert Menendez, recently declared: “The more I hear from the Administration and its quotes, the more it sounds like talking points that come straight out of Teheran.”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2015/01/28/why-netanyahu-the-churchill-of-our-time-must-speak-before-congress/
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