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Who is ISIS? Former Baath Party, that's who.


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2015 Jun 4, 10:29am   2,259 views  7 comments

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The fall of Ramadi, capital of Iraq’s Anbar Province, to the Islamic State last month has frayed nerves in Washington, but what few appear to grasp is that ISIS’s May offensive has given Ramadi back to its former owners — the ex-Baathist Sunni terrorists known as the Former Regime Loyalists. The FRLs, as they’re called, were Saddam Hussein’s most ardent followers, the same fighters whom the United States fought non-stop for eight years. Their resurgence has implications not just for the United States but for ISIS itself. For while these forces may fly the ISIS flag today, their ultimate plans for Iraq are quite different than those of the “caliphate.”

ISIS’s roots in Saddam Hussein’s Baath Party are deep — many of the group’s most devoted commanders, advisers and fighters started out as Baathists. The ex-Baathists essentially run ISIS, and their past is evident in the tactics they are using now.

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Recall that from the moment the U.S. Army entered Baghdad, the coming Sunni terror insurgency was manned by almost 100,000 FRL officers from the most loyal organizations. This number included 30,000 commandos from Saddam’s Fedayeen; 26,000 Special Republican Guards; 31,000 spies, analysts and enforcers from five major intelligence agencies; as well as 6,000 seasoned combat officers — all freshly fired by Ambassador Bremer through his General Order #2. These people didn’t vanish into thin air after the invasion; they went underground, as had been planned long before the war, and formed the largest insurgent group in Iraq, the Army of the Mujahideen. They also took over others, such as Ansar al Sunna, giving them an Islamic patina to inspire resistance.


https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/06/03/isis-forces-exbaathist-saddam-loyalists/

Mission Accomplished!

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1   socal2   2015 Jun 4, 11:06am  

Anyone still think allowing these fanatics to participate in the new Iraqi government would be a good idea for longterm reconciliation with the majority Shia and Kurds?

So much for the argument that Saddam's Baathists were all a bunch of secular Sunnis and keeping the jihadis at bay.

These guys ran and hid during the initial invasion in 2003 and were getting a beating during the surge being driven into Syria. Too bad we didn't keep enough troops in Iraq to finish them off.

2   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Jun 4, 11:06am  

We kept troops in Iraq longer than we were involved in WW2. A competent government would have been able to handle it.

3   Tenpoundbass   2015 Jun 4, 11:07am  

Why do they look so dirty if they like to party in the bath?

4   Y   2015 Jun 4, 11:20am  

History teaches us a 40-50 year minimum* is required...WW2 numbers are puny in comparison.
A competent government would have realized this and hunkered down for the long haul... *

* germany, japan, south korea

thunderlips11 says

We kept troops in Iraq longer than we were involved in WW2. A competent government would have been able to handle it.

5   Blurtman   2015 Jun 4, 11:22am  

Mission accomplished!

6   bob2356   2015 Jun 4, 11:43am  

socal2 says

These guys ran and hid during the initial invasion in 2003 and were getting a beating during the surge being driven into Syria. Too bad we didn't keep enough troops in Iraq to finish them off.

Strategy and geography aren't your strong point. The surge secured the immediate area of baghdad and the oil terminals at basra. At the peak of the surge there were 75 battalions in iraq, only a dozen were more than 50 miles from baghdad or basra, most of those in kurdish territory. There was only 1 battalion between baghdad and syria. No one was driving the insurgents into syria.

7   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Jun 4, 11:53am  

SoftShell says

History teaches us a 40-50 year minimum* is required...WW2 numbers are puny in comparison.

So, the Bush Administration was talking 40-50 year occupation in Winter 2002-2003? That Iraqi Oil revenue was supposed to pay for all that?

What taxes were passed to pay for this?

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