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Trump wants to do away with H-1B visas!!!!!


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2015 Oct 31, 6:48pm   23,435 views  58 comments

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DT: Day one. This is why I got into this race. Because the everyday working person in this country is getting screwed. Lobbyists write the rules to benefit the rich and powerful. They buy off Senators like Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) to help them get rich at the expense of working Americans by using H-1B visas–so called “high tech” visas–to replace American workers in all sorts of solid middle class jobs. If I am President, I will not issue any H-1B visas to companies that replace American workers and my Department of Justice will pursue action against them.

#trump

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41   HydroCabron   2015 Nov 3, 2:29pm  

lostand confused says

The 1% pay close to half of taxes.

And since they hold only 42% of the wealth, it's an incredible burden to them. With such limited means, I have no idea where they get the money to pay those taxes. We need a food & blanket drive for them.

Trump would fix this - he's a good man.

42   tatupu70   2015 Nov 3, 3:47pm  

Ironman says

No, Westfield has a lot of Jews and doctors. You wouldn't know because they don't work in a factory like you do.

lol---you've obviously never been to the train station at rush hour. Half the town rides. And another quarter probably rides the bus.

Of course there is a Jewish population-it is full of ex-NYCers. But to call it "mostly" Jewish is completely incorrect.

43   tatupu70   2015 Nov 3, 3:56pm  

lostand confused says

Huh-just because you heard it Indian Chief Warren rally/pow-wow, does not make it true.

The 1% pay close to half of taxes.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/04/13/

Of course. I would never state something just because Warren said it. Here's some charts for you:

And the 1% pay half the taxes because they are the only ones with any money. If you want more people to pay taxes, let them earn more money...

44   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Nov 3, 4:02pm  

All lies, Tatupu! All measurements of the economy are wrong, untestable a priori assertions are better. Also, I went to Shadowstats and...

45   lostand confused   2015 Nov 3, 7:16pm  

Maybe people have no wealth because nobody saves anymore? I know people who make 100k and live in debt and are 1 or 2 paychecks away from disaster. Could also be the loan culture-else houses will never be inflated so much.

46   MMR   2015 Nov 3, 8:04pm  

Ironman says

Westfield has a lot of Jews and doctors

My neighbor as a freshman at Emory was a Jewish kid from Westfield whose dad is an OB/GYN in practice along with his sister. At any given time there was probably 5 people at Westfield in the undergrad ranks when I was there and they were all Jewish.

Furthermore, the largest Jewish communities in Union County are in Hillside, Westfield, Scotch Plains and Linden

Temple Emanu-El in Westfield had over 1,100 members (2005). That's quite a few for a town of 30000.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0020_0_20199.html

Westfield has a significant Jewish population
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westfield,_New_Jersey

47   MMR   2015 Nov 3, 8:19pm  

tatupu70 says

it means they don't want to try to help poor people? Is that your point?

No, the volition to 'help' is really borne out of a desire to keep them out of their neighborhood. That's why the limousine liberal tag is apt in this case. How much has this 'help' in the form of welfare helped anything?

True liberals go to public schools that give everyone a fair shot at success. Like the way the magnet schools were in New York city 30-40 years ago. Voting democrat and voting for welfare doesn't necessarily constitute progressive thinking.

It's a nice idea and all, but as currently configured it doesn't help the people it's designed to help.tatupu70 says

-maybe you're thinking of Livingston

Its also very Jewish and more so than Westfield. I have relatives in Livingston, some of the rare Indians in that environment.tatupu70 says

Dems that want segregation

Yes, actually they do. Latte sipping NPR listening folks want that for their kids so that the education for their offspring isn't dumbed down. They try to assuage their feelings of guilt by voting for welfare to keep the coloreds on their side of the tracks.

If they were so interested in giving people an opportunity not based on parental wealth, then why don't they vote for the choice of people in the ghetto to allow their kids to go to the school that gives them the best shot of success?.....It's known as racism and classism.

Also, the charter school movement is mostly driven by Dems.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/03/08/1368738/-7-Deadly-Sins-of-Charter-Schools#

comment from liberaldregs:

In my medium-affluent New Jersey suburb, the school board (at no political risk to themselves), has basically ignored state mandates for charter schools. In fact, there is huge resistance from parents (and teachers) in any district with reasonably good schools.

Reason: they don't want to make concessions to ghetto people. But yes, Dems don't support segregation. Actually Dems support segregation but lie blatantly about it while Repubs also support segregation and tell others 'fuck you got mine'

48   MMR   2015 Nov 3, 8:27pm  

tatupu70 says

But to call it "mostly" Jewish is completely incorrect.

Only in influence boss man. Mostly Jewish in influence.

Emory is 20% (supposedly) Jewish but make up 70% of the greek system at the undergrad level, that was the case 20 years ago.

Today the most alpha dog Jewish kids still have guts to tell Indians to go back to India. Who do they vote for....hint, it isn't the Republicans. The weasel author had the inside scoop because his brother was in the fraternity.

On an unrelated note, the whining about microaggressions is a largely liberal affectation that is quite pathetic and mostly invented by leftist morons.

http://www.businessinsider.com/emory-aepi-offensive-flag-football-2014-10

49   tatupu70   2015 Nov 4, 5:15am  

MMR says

Temple Emanu-El in Westfield had over 1,100 members (2005). That's quite a few for a town of 30000.

I imagine that not all members are from Westfield, but, regardless, if 3.6% is "mostly" Jewish in your mind, then I can't argue with you.

MMR says

No, the volition to 'help' is really borne out of a desire to keep them out of their neighborhood. That's why the limousine liberal tag is apt in this case. How much has this 'help' in the form of welfare helped anything?

True liberals go to public schools that give everyone a fair shot at success. Like the way the magnet schools were in New York city 30-40 years ago. Voting democrat and voting for welfare doesn't necessarily constitute progressive thinking.

It's a nice idea and all, but as currently configured it doesn't help the people it's designed to help

You're all over the place. Bottom line--your cynical view is wrong. Lots of liberals want to help the poor and less advantaged. You are free to question the efficacy of welfare and propose new ideas that will do more to get poor folks self supporting. That's fair. You can't question the motives of folks that help without a bit more, however.

True liberals try to make every school the same so every school gives all students a fair shot.

MMR says

If they were so interested in giving people an opportunity not based on parental wealth, then why don't they vote for the choice of people in the ghetto to allow their kids to go to the school that gives them the best shot of success?.....It's known as racism and classism.

It's simply a matter of practicality. We can't afford to bus every kid to a different school that is 30 miles away.

Sounds like you have some issues you need to resolve with Jewish folks. Maybe you can get together with Bgamall.

50   MMR   2015 Nov 4, 6:45am  

tatupu70 says

3.6% is "mostly" Jewish in your mind, then I can't argue with you

3.6% is higher than the average in the US but less than the Average in NYC. I also clearly said 'influence.' 3.6% Jewish will exhibit a disproportionate influence over the goings-on in any given community they adopt as their own.

tatupu70 says

Sounds like you have some issues you need to resolve with Jewish folks.

Hypocritical racism isn't a Jewish problem, it's a limousine liberal problem. Besides I have plenty of Jewish friends. I have problems with people who whine about racists who are conservative leaning but stay silent when terms like chindian and killing H1-B's is considered acceptable.

I never saw any person using the term Jew banker to describe the bankers who decimated the economy, although that is more true than false. I see a lot of people here who are racist against Indians trying to provide a better life for their families.

I see a lot of hypocrite liberals who hate on Indians while complaining about racism against muslims, most of whom have jihadist sentiments even if they themselves are non-violent.

tatupu70 says

It's simply a matter of practicality. We can't afford to bus every kid to a different school that is 30 miles away

Right, so give the kids from the flooded inner city schools a chance at a lottery and based on their ability to transport themselves, they could be free to do that. The original point is that limousine liberals won't vote for that. Instead they vote for welfare to keep the coloreds and undesirables on their side of the tracks and call it helping those less fortunate.

tatupu70 says

True liberals try to make every school the same so every school gives all students a fair shot

Not even close, but hey, whatever floats your boat. Voting for welfare and keeping people on their side of the tracks isn't going to give all students a fair shot. Or a shot at success or failure NOT determined at birth based on your parents wealth.

tatupu70 says

Lots of liberals want to help the poor and less advantaged.

Right, they just don't tend to live in limousine liberal enclavestatupu70 says

Maybe you can get together with Bgamall.

Most American Jews aren't zionists. And you don't have to be Jewish to be zionist and zionists occupy both sides of the aisle.

51   tatupu70   2015 Nov 4, 7:49am  

Ironman says

tatupu70 says

I imagine

We hope at some time, you STOP "imagining" events and START relying on facts...

It's your imagination that gets you in trouble here ALL the time.

Why don't you stop trolling with useless comments like this that add nothing to the discussion.

52   FortWayne   2015 Nov 4, 8:24am  

tatupu70 says

True liberals try to make every school the same so every school gives all students a fair shot

Not really. All they do is bring everyone down to the level of the stupidest kid in the classroom. In liberal utopia there are no successes or winners, just dumbed down population of losers.

53   tatupu70   2015 Nov 4, 8:34am  

FortWayne says

Not really. All they do is bring everyone down to the level of the stupidest kid in the classroom. In liberal utopia there are no successes or winners, just dumbed down population of losers.

Conservatives need to get to get together so their strawman arguments agree. You and MMR seem to be saying opposite things but attributing both to liberals.

54   dublin hillz   2015 Nov 4, 9:12am  

MMR says

Hypocritical racism isn't a Jewish problem, it's a limousine liberal problem. Besides I have plenty of Jewish friends. I have problems with people who whine about racists who are conservative leaning but stay silent when terms like chindian and killing H1-B's is considered acceptable.

I never saw any person using the term Jew banker to describe the bankers who decimated the economy, although that is more true than false. I see a lot of people here who are racist against Indians trying to provide a better life for their families.

I see a lot of hypocrite liberals who hate on Indians while complaining about racism against muslims, most of whom have jihadist sentiments even if they themselves are non-violent.

Whether it's H1B or undocumented manual labor work, I believe that people consider both groups to place downward pressure on wages which directly affects the people who compete with both groups. While there may be some "racism" involved, it's mostly about economic factors. I don't agree with methods of protests that are employed but I understand why the frustration exists. I can't blame the people who want to improve the lives of their families but we sure as heck can hold the companies and "small businesses" accountable for creating and perpetuating the problem.

55   MisdemeanorRebel   2015 Nov 4, 10:29am  

What's wrong with Chindian? The first use was to describe the region around the Burma Road and the forces involved in supplying China in WW2.

Or the complaining about Chinaman but not Scotsman or Irishman by the handful of young ABCs who want to get on the oppression bandwagon.

56   muffinman   2015 Nov 4, 6:44pm  

Ironman says

That's exactly what happens when you discuss things with TAT, here's his calling card:

My, you're quite an asshole, aren't you?

57   John Bailo   2015 Nov 7, 1:00pm  

bob2356 says

$100-$115K base salaries with $170-$190K total compensation.

Tech jobs are far more volatile than you realize.

It's not like you start with that salary and move up the earnings ladder as if you were in a bank.

Jobs, groups and whole divisions can evaporate faster than an ad agency.

One friend of mine was doing stellar work in cutting edge and valuable technology and walked in to find an entire floor of people let go.

A lot of these salary numbers include hourly contractors who have even less security.

Many jobs are posted as 3 months to hire...but often the hire part never occurs or if it does the high hourly wage can be knocked down to a salary that is half of the hourly...usually the person is by then "bought in", got a house and so on that he desperately takes the lower salary.

Also the industry is highly "youth oriented". It's completely common for anyone (including managers) to label someone as old and discriminate openly without any repercussions. Half the time the "young" know-it-alls end up being completely clueless and drain knowledge off the old guy (surprisingly, no matter how many changes have occurred the basics of programming and data manipulation are still the same at their core) who is still not recognized.

58   bob2356   2015 Nov 7, 5:11pm  

John Bailo says

bob2356 says

$100-$115K base salaries with $170-$190K total compensation.

Tech jobs are far more volatile than you realize.

I worked in tech from the 70's through the early 2000's. I realize just fine how tech jobs work thank you very much. The question on the table is what percentage of new tech graduates are pulling down these types of salaries. A question that was ignored I notice.

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